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Rabbinical courts 'on verge of collapse'
Tali Farkash
Published: 27.11.12, 13:44
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1. On the verge of collapse? Regret not collapsed yet!
Jew1 ,   Ashdod   (11.27.12)
People are suffering because of the rigid headed decisions made by our rabbanim. The suffering is because our rabbanim is stuck in 2000 years old stone age and can not update their status according to 21st century. People are suffering because woman is given second standard and these men are trying desperately to keep few key positions to themselves. Appoint lady judges on board and solve your problem. Actually I would have preferred if the whole rabbanuth system is dissolved.
2. The entire system needs to be overhauled.
Runner1989 ,   USA   (11.27.12)
What training do the rabbinical judges receive? Are they licensed by a professional association? Are they lawyers? How are they appointed? Who are they accountable to? If they prove to be incompetent, how are they removed, and who is responsible for removing them? Is there an appeal process? Who hear the appeals? These are just some of the questios that beg answers. Quite frankly, the rabbinical justice system has no place I a democracy. Israel is not a theocracy.
3. Who are these self-appointed high court judges to mix in
Chaim   (11.27.12)
to appointments of rabbinical judges? Will "democratic" Israel ever have the opportunity to appoint judges for the secular "high court" or is Israel doomed for life with these self-appointed for life anti-religious leftists?
4. Israel is NOT a democracy and never was.
Chaim   (11.27.12)
Why should we not get to appoint Supreme Court judges and be doomed for life with these anti-religious leftist self-appointed judges since the creation of the state?
5. Rabbinic courts don't suffer nearly as much as those who
kippah seruga ,   Israel   (11.27.12)
receive injustice at their hands. They NEED to collapse in order to enable moderate halacha to emerge.
6. Have these rabbinic employees EVER worked a full day........
Absolute disater ,   in Israel   (11.27.12)
in these cushy jobs? Absolutely not. All they do is complain and take a nice pay check. They have hurt so many people because of their incompetance and laziness. I can't even begin to tell you.....
7. May I say
isaac ,   mexico   (11.27.12)
i got to give it to you man you actually have found the solution to our problems lets throw every single jewish identity and solved!! yeah lets do that in fact forget our names who cares _?!! ill be george youll be Mattew yeah...!!! thanks a lot!
8. Without rabbinical courts, how will G-d receive guidance?
Sau   (11.27.12)
9. Why are we waiting?
Danny ,   London England   (11.27.12)
Why do we need an act of the Knesset to include women? They can be included right now if the bodies who oversee the appointment of dayanim just get on with it and apppoint one or two women?
nadav ,   tlv   (11.27.12)
there is NO need fore the rabbinical court or any government run religious institution. they should be supported by individual members, just like they are in the West. Aside from that, the State would save billions of tax payer money that is needlessly spent on this parochial, superstitious, medieval institutions that represent a fraction of Israeli and world Jewry.
11. #4: I have no idea what you are talking about.
Runner1983 ,   USA   (11.27.12)
Aside from sentences that make no sense, I suggest you consider what the majority of your fellow citizens and the world thinks about the democratic nature of your country. The day Israel looses it democratic nature, it is doomed.
12. Seperate state from Religion
Haim ,   TA   (11.28.12)
This outdated institution has no place in a modern society, inflicting their so called morality on the Israeli public. Civil unions should be made legal. Israel claims to be a democracy unfortuentlly not all have the same rights.
13. @8
Walter ,   Germany   (11.28.12)
Odin don't need judges. Or which god are you talking about? Crom? Manitou? Zeus?
14. #11 number 4 is 100% right
Except for PM election which was done democratially (with some computer "mulfunctioning..."), there is no democracy in Israel, never was and most likely never will be. Who ever heard of a democracy where judges are self-appointed for life? Israel might be the most democratic state in the Midddle East but it's a far cry from a true democracy as has been clearly proven in several instances. For what it's worth, the majority of Israel, religious Jews, are of the same opinion. It's only the left, the minority, who want to think otherwise.
15. #4 Chaim, the fascist anti-democrat
Michael ,   Haifa   (11.28.12)
Chaim and Mohammad Morsi are in the same Brotherhood in their opposition to an independent Judiciary
16. #11 & #14
Norman Gellman ,   Rehovot   (11.28.12)
What unadulterated nonsense the two of you profess. First even The USA is not a pure democracy just look at the electoral college for electing a president. It is obvious of all forms of government, theocracy republic, dictatorship etc. democracy best describes Israel's government albeit it is considered a limited democracy.
17. Next :Female Imams and Bishops ?
Roland Seener ,   London England   (11.28.12)
18. #16, Democracy is a MUST for Israel,its greatest achievement
Michael ,   California, USA   (11.28.12)
Alongside commentators before me here, I agree that Israel would not exist today as a state without being a democratic, without being supported as such by other democracies. You can say Israel is not a perfect democracy, like this rabbinical court exemplifies, but Israel tries hard to be as close to perfection in its democratic institutions as possible. Take your hat off and recite "kol ha'kavod."
19. What my underwear have in common with Haredi Smuggling
meir elazar   (11.28.12)
My underwear is from "Fruit of the Loom" and the items smuggled through Israeli customs is "Loot of the Froom".
20. Where is halacah that women are too stupid to be judges?
Bunnie Meyer ,   Los Angeles, CA USA   (11.29.12)
21. #20 Bunnie - Tanakh Trumps Rabbis Here
meir elazar   (11.29.12)
While the Rabbis would certainly like to rule that women can't be judges, they can't because the Tanahk trumps the Mishna and Gemara. Chapters 4 and 5 of Shoftim related to Devorah the Judge and totally pulls the rug out from under any Rabbi that would try to promote his "sick" neurotic agenda for that women should not be allowed to be judges. On the other hand, recently a 'pseuod-Rabbi" who I do not recognize as a legitimate rabbi stated that women should not be allowed to vote or run for office. Again the example above of Devorah shows clearly his knowledge of the Torah is extremely deficient. Furthermore, I maintain that any woman that accepts and recognizes his authority definitely should not be allowed to vote or run for office.
22. femi-journo Tali claws again
Berend   (11.29.12)
scratch scratch scratch go her femi-claws
23. judges.
john ,   toronto   (11.30.12)
Israel need good judges to decide according to the times. Judges should receive the latest education in law and give their judgments without bias.Those without proper education cannot be judges.
24. goal of liberal agenda
david ,   new yprk   (11.29.12)
the idea is to killthe religion in stages. eventually, kolech and those other left wing radicals want homosexuals on the courts. if the rabbinical courts must appoint women, i recommend that they appoint rabbis wives from ultra-haredi communities. appoint the people who most despise kolech and their ilk
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