US 'shocked' by new settlement plan
Published: 02.12.12, 08:59
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1. What's the fuss?
Vlad   (12.02.12)
They're all being built in Jerusalem or close to the Green Line. Neither Jerusalem or Maale Adumim should be ceded, and it makes sense to connect them. Oh boo hoo, the Arabs will have to drive around and it'll take a few minutes longer. God forbid! It's much better to just kick out all the Jews from E1. Israel should lay down the law on what it will and won't give, and should seriously ask its allies if they want to negotiate on the Palestinians' behalf.
2. 500,000+ Israelis live in the West Bank
michael redbourn ,   Arad Israel   (12.02.12)
Abbas doesn't want any Jews in his new Palestine, but approximately 500,000 Israelis live in the West Bank. 9,000 Israelis were uprooted from Gaza and it was the biggest army operation since the Yom Kippur war, and it took ten days. Israel is obviously nowhere near capable of removing all the Israelis presently living in the West Bank, so who would do. It's pretty amazing how certain facts are continually avoided by politicians and the media.
3. When is a good time?
DOV ,   USA   (12.02.12)
The land belongs to Israel. The Arabs living on Ex Jordanian land should think themselves lucky that Israel hasn't claimed what is theirs by historical right and as well as defeating the attacking warring Jordanian Army to take the land. The green line does not exist. Palestine translated is land of Roman palaces. .
4. You had your chances for shock free living in 1941.
Miron ,   USA   (12.02.12)
Now, after they killed off half of our nation they are talking about democracy and demographics... and franchsing... and disenfranchising... Obama and his US friends have got a sense of humor. Bluff goes only so far.
5. With (fake) friends like these who needs enemies?!!!
Jake Stone ,   USA   (12.02.12)
Screw the US and their self-righteousness. Israel is a sovreign state that has the right to do what it wants within its own borders! Israel is NOT the the step-child of the US, and they need to lay down the law of their own: stay the hell out of our internal business! Obama is nothing, but a pathetic, inept, excuse for a political leader! Obama, along with all the other countries' will put a knife in Israel's back the first chance they get--period! Obama needs to worry about his own godless soul, and the judgment that he has...and, will bring down on the US! Genesis 12:1-3!!!
6. E 1 - it's feasible & good for all
frankie ,   Tel Aviv   (12.02.12)
E 1 is vital for israel, but if we build a tunnel and/or bridge,. that wil be a link between Ramallah & Bethlehem and the demilitarized Palestinian State will be contiguous. No problem, no hysterics!
7. US State Department should take the hint
Abu Zibby ,   Haifa, IL   (12.02.12)
At this point there isn't much to talk about with Hussain Obama. See you in 2016.
8. Tit For Tat and One Upsmanship
meir elazar   (12.02.12)
With HAMAS twisting a victory out of a major defeat (Iron Dome neutralizing terrorist rockets, decapitation of heads of terrorist organization, killing of missile launchers along with destruction of launchers, FAJR5, etc.) Furthermore, the UN advancement in spite of constant terrorist effort encourages Israel to "In Your Face Damn Terrorists" and decides to do what hurts them the most - Build more settlement housing. Those who don't understand the Arab mentality cannot appreciate the seriousness of this blow to them. Therefore please continue to have victories and terrorize innocent civilians and we will enjoy kicking you in the balls.
9. Israel doesn't have to give the US any notice on bldg plans
Scott ,   Ramat Gan, Israel   (12.02.12)
All of the areas where the building will take place are areas where previous Israeli governments & the Bush Admin. agreed would become part of Israel in any final settlement.
10. Jews living in Israel a shock?
David ,   Shiloh Israel   (12.02.12)
Get this straight...the 'west bank' is a term inflicted upon us by ignorant people who can't be bothered to check real historic sources. This disputed area has always been part of the Jewish Homeland, and G-d willing will remain so long after the 'palestinian state of mind' finally succumbs to a long overdue case of senility. No amount of verbicide from NY Times, impotent world leaders, or others will change this fact.
11. US wasn't that shocked
Mira ,   Vienna   (12.02.12)
when thousands of missiles and rockets came flying over on Israeli civilians. It looks as if not Nobama is taking revenge on Israel, but rather Israel is taking revenge on Nobama!
12. What's good for the goose
Logic ,   Israel   (12.02.12)
So here we have the PA taking a major unilateral step, and Israel responding almost in kind. I don't see what the problem is. If anything, I expected the Israeli government to officially annex parts of area C, so building in E1 seems much less contentious.
13. US 'Shocked'
Robin Nelson ,   Portland USA   (12.02.12)
Call me stupid, but look at a map. As long as I've been alive, this place has been called ISRAEL. This strongly suggests that it belongs to Israelis. And I believe the word Jerusalem is Hebrew, yes? It's not a Philistine word, is it...? If mail addressed to you comes to your house, then the place the mail comes to is YOUR HOUSE.
14. Thanks for the new houses!
Sharma Allarma ,   Herbron, Palestine   (12.02.12)
When you are forced to leave Palestine, just like you were forced out of your settlements in Gaza and the Sinai, we shall take them over! Even if you knock them down when you go, that's not a problem for us, you paid to build them, they you wast more money demolosing them! Love it!
15. #1 Vlad - Fuss
Michael ,   Haifa   (12.02.12)
Be patient, Vlad. You will find out what the fuss is all about. the moment you discover that there are no free lunches in today's world and at the same moment it also hits you in your pocket. If you want to save time, ask any South African.
16. "Settlement" ?
Sagi   (12.02.12)
Building 3000 new homes to an existing town is called urban expansion. The misuse of the word settlement in the foreign press is detrimental to us. This we have no control over, but we do not need to use it in our own press, this is called shooting oneself in their own feet.
17. Not a total defeat.
Allison Gabelhouser ,   NY America   (12.02.12)
Look, you've got to see things in presepective, the fact that 139 nations are against us, and 40 more are willing to abstain, and that Canada and the US are are last allies, as that we were defeated in Gaza (they weren't the ones who called a halt after 8 days) lost our ally in Egypt, lost a vital ally in Turkey, going to lose Jordan to the Brotherhood, lost the 2006 war in Lebannon (unless you can find someone who thinks we won!) Don't worry, good old Bibi and Liberman are going to lose us the US as well by bulidng more settlements, cosing the US it's allianced with other more useful nations until the Treaty with Israel (is there an actually writen treaty by the way, or is it just 'an understandin'?) is too expensive and they drop us, with the same words they gave to the South Vietnamese before they pulled out. So build baby, build!
18. #11 The illegal settlement is in Palestine, NOT Israel
Lynx ,   Palestine   (12.02.12)
By carrying through this territorial attack on the State of Palestine, the 2-state solution will not see the light of day. You will be left with the ONE democratic state solution. In any case, building in E1, Maale Adumim, and any other illegal settlement, is illegal per International Law, the 4th Geneva Convention, the ICJ ruling, and countless UN resolutions. This latest attack on Palestine will have legal repercussions. What Israel is in fact saying, is that not only does Israel exist far beyong what the UN 1947 Partition Plan allocated it in territory, it will go annexing East Jerusalem and even making a contiguous Palestine impossible. Again, this will have consequences.
19. Now is a good time!
lightharry ,   New York   (12.02.12)
Now is a good time for America to get out of the peace business and throwing our tax Dollars away on a so called spüecial relationship that is one sided. Israel takes and we pay. When are Americans going to wake up!
20. It actually creates a more realistic situation
Papamaneiros ,   Raanana Israel   (12.02.12)
The physical connection between Jerusalem and Ma'ale Adumim is a logical step towards a rational solution. It is an essential element in any responsible and stable situation. By contrast the Palestinians’ territorial demands on the Israeli capital of Jerusalem are driven primarily by a confrontational political agenda; an artificial, unnecessary, deliberate provocation. The timing might be awkward, but in fact the time to recognize that reality is long overdue.
21. Osama can't even run the US, how can he run the world???????
Rena ,   Tel Aviv   (12.02.12)
Mind your own business and help Americans. That's your job. Not telling every other country what to do.
22. What I truly fail to understand is why
Israeli 2   (12.02.12)
Israel is not willing to annex the West Bank and Jerusalem. If not now, when? Obama is budding into this like he is budding into Arizona State's affairs. Are we indeed obligated to let anyone know our decisions before we do it? The world seems to understand the UN vote as the establishment of a "Palestinian" state. Houston - we have a problem.
23. Israel forever
Marty ,   USA   (12.02.12)
Israel should never have left the Sinai or Gaza. The West bank must never be surrendered. The sad fact is that until all parties agree that Israel has a right to exist with defensible borders, she will never be safe and there won't be peace.
24. Fake Friends?
lightharry ,   New York   (12.02.12)
Israel is the step-child of the US. They sit at our table, eat our food and demand our money and what do we get? We get the chance to start a third world war because our special relationship thinks that it can push the corrupt congressmen into selling American blood for Israel.
25. why be shocked
bill ,   us   (12.02.12)
Why would the US be shocked? Israel walks all over everyone, friends and enemies. Israel does not think of itself as being part of the world community. They think they are the world community.
26. #1 WRONG!
It's not your land to build on. Full stop! Any ghettos built will be given to the Palestinians when the 2 state solution is forced on you, or will be simply bulldozed by the Caterpillar killers.
27. Shocked? I am more than shocked!
Cathy A. ,   Uglyville   (12.02.12)
I am deeeeply disappointed and graaaavely concerned.
28. 150 years ago
Istvan ,   BUDAPEST HUNGARY   (12.02.12)
the united dakota, cherokke, sioux ogellala nations also protested against the building of forts in their territory. Not to mention of permanent ethnic cleansing by arriving foreign settlers to their homeland. Maybe also this game is not over yet.
29. #11
Quote "US wasn't that shocked when thousands of missiles and rockets came flying over on Israeli civilian, and landed mostly in empty fields!. Get it? How many Israelis were killed in Operation Pillow?
30. Does the US want to create a Palestinian State ?
Arn. ,   Sweden.   (12.02.12)
I Quote - The Americans were particularly angry at the decision to pursue “preliminary zoning and planning preparations” for a development on the segment connecting the town of Ma'aleh Adumim to Jerusalem (known as area E1) that would separate Ramallah and Bethlehem from Jerusalem and could prevent the creation of a viable, contiguous Palestinian state. Comment - The US is apparently persuing a Palestinian State, " living in Peace with Israel " and taking the Praise for it ? That seems to be the Goal of all Democratic elected Presidents in the US. There is only one Palestinian People and One palestinian State as according to the Word of HASHEM. Isaiah 11. 14 But they shall fly upon the shoulders of the Philistines toward the west; The Gazans that is. God bevere from the USs Usefull Idiots !. Arn.Sweden.
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