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Sources: US behind European protest measures
Attila Somfalvi
Published: 04.12.12, 08:58
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31. Ephraim - no. 20.
Eldar ,   Haifa   (12.04.12)
Ephraim - your argument is flat. There is literally no debate among Israelis or their supporters abroad about the legitimacy of Israel as a Jewish Democratic state within the 1967 borders. The country was established after international recognition and a war that led to internationally recognized borders (and reenforced via peace treaties with Jordan and Egypt). No one recognizes the legitimacy of Israel's occupation of the West Bank and moreover we have NEVER officially annexed it. So get off of the slippery slope argument. You are welcome to live in West Jerusalem, Haifa, the Negev, the Galil or anywhere else in pre-1967 Israel. Your argument is not only going to lose us the West Bank, but the entire third Jewish commonwealth.
32. Israel's excuse in this article is pretty lame
A Bethlehemite   (12.04.12)
"if the Palestinians continue to act unilaterally – Israel will act accordingly." Israel has been acting unilaterally and building illegal settlsments shortly after 1967, specially when the rest of the world keep repeating that settlements are illegal and Israel has done so against UNSC Resolutions. Whereas the PA has moved forward with the blessing of most of the world and has done so diplomatically and legally. And the result of having an Observer State at the UN is what immenintally what's going to happen in the end. Big difference
33. To those who always criticize Israel
donsaliman ,   Nahal Oz, Israel   (12.04.12)
I have a question, Why is it that when rockets from Gaza are falling into populated areas in Israel, like my home, or a terrorist attack in Israel, we do not hear a word from most of you? Many of you critcize us for thinking we are always right, but yet you always blame Israel for everything. Just wondering.
34. I thought only IL took orders from USA....EU does too
Alan ,   SA   (12.04.12)
35. Netanyahu: The Masterful Politician!!!
Jake Stone ,   USA   (12.04.12)
Love him...or hate him: Netanyahu is running circles around the stable-boy in the White House, and worshiping sycophants in Europe. "Making fools out of them..." Not too hard to do when one considers the limitations of the liberal mind, especially the inept, clown in the White House. Europe has, seriously, gone down, bigtime, if they have consult the clueless "One"?! Help us, Daddy! They aren't playing nice! They won't let us be the leader of the games! Pathetic bunch, aren't they? The blind-leading-the-blind; their internal struggle of stupidity and blatant anti-Semitism (who can hate and betray the Jews more?)! And, that is what it's all about: hating the Jews, especially when they want to protect themselves...and, that against everyone's wishes--shame on that little pesky Jew)! To the Israeli people: Regardless, of your opinions' of your leader, he needs everyone's prayers and support! This is about more than some building project, this is about allowing the Jewish people any say over their own homeland, a homeland, mind you, given by the only true God! Netanyahu is juggling many balls, so now is the time to not criticize, but stand, as one, with your leaders' who are being pressured by entities' who truly hate them! Israel has no friends, other than the many Christian Zionists' ,like myself, who love and support God's people and their right to their own land. As the Bible states, in the last days, before Messiah comes, the whole world will be gathered against God's chosen and His Jerusalem; but, do not fear, oh, Israel, because the battle is the Lord's to wage and to ultimately win! The, soon, coming wars are a lead-in to the "time of Jacob's trouble" and the coming of Messiah to defeat Israel's enemies! So, no matter how much the godless heathens' rage (why do they imagine a vain thing?), God will hold them in derision; thus judgment for the sake of His own name and for His love for His people. Israel and Jerusalem are eternal; they belong to God, and no weapon, that comes against the "...apple of His eye...", will prosper--period! God bless, Israel; praying for the peace of Jerusalem! Christian Zionist
36. Lynx no 5
AL QUDS ALYAHUDI ,   QUDS HAKA AL YAHUD   (12.04.12)
Lynx, cool down man. What the Arabs says. If you do not know will tell you. Ali fat mat. (dead and buried) Galilee Acre, and all around belong to us. ICC can do NOTHINGGGGGGG. 1947 gone long time ago when you refused, thank G D for that. Can I offer you glass of sea water from Acre or from Haifa, your choice
37. #33 Your answer:
Robert ,   Australia   (12.04.12)
When people are forcibly removed from their homes and the lands upon which they have lived for centuries are stolen from them, people generally fight back.
38. Lynx no 5
JUDAH THE LION ,   JEWS FIGHT LIKE LION   (12.04.12)
If you can take Israel to ICC to claim Acre & Galilee, then we will also have a case against the British mandate why they gave big slice of Israel called Jordan to the Kingdom Hashmite of Hejaz to get cheap oil from them at the expence of the Jews. Please go the court ICC quickly, the quicker the better
39. The only action that will now make any sense
Sarah B ,   Tel Aviv/London   (12.04.12)
is to revoke some trading agreements between Israel and the European Union. It is one thing to say we are going to build in E-1 it is another to do it. Ensuring that Israel does not have the funds to do it is one means of ensuring it doesn't happen. Another of course is to ensure Netanyahu does not win the next electio. This can be achieved by the American's sending a signal to the normal decent Israelis that Israel's relationship with the United States is being downgraded to the level of say Outer Mongolia. This combination undermining Israel's ability to trade with the outside world with a downgrade in relations to one more appropriate to a country of 5 million people will have the desired affect extremely quickly, days rather than weeks particularly if Assad starts firing chemical weapons in neighbouring Syria.
40. CAUTION: For 10000 years the minority is ALWAYS forced
spyguy ,   seattle usa   (12.04.12)
to do what the majority wants. Israelis may not like it , but they are a very small minority on earth and defying the majority of the humans on earth will get them smacked down. You may get away with being arrogant and unfriendly to the rest of the world for a while, but eventually the world will get tired of the arrogance and severely punish you. This is NOT about religion or antisemitism, but basic human behavior. Unless Israelis want a very, very bad future, they are going to have to swallow a lot of humble pie real quick. As Sun Tzu noted almost 3000 years ago, HUBRIS is a guaranteed way to LOSE.
41. #37 - we forcibly moved our own people for peace!
Esther ,   Beit Shemesh, Israel   (12.04.12)
Israel uprooted thousands of citizens from their homes in the vain, pie-in-the-sky belief that it would bring peace. Yet it only brought rockets and more terror. We've tried that, done that. And Jews have been in Israel continuously for centuries. Your claims of us uprooting them are based on lies the press perpetuates. Speak to Israelis, don't just read the newspapers.
42. #37 Are you an Aborigine, Robert?
Mark ,   Lodz, Poland   (12.04.12)
43. OBAMA, FRIENDLY FOE
TONY ,   NIGERIA   (12.04.12)
Obama is finding it difficult to work with Bibi. He has found out that Bibi is a true Israelite indeed who will not cede an inch of Israeli land unlike Livni and Omert. He wants more rockets from Judea and Samaria, besides Gaza. He secretly orchestrated Abbas bid to the UN, and other EU supported publicly. He wants Bibi voted out of office, so he could perfect his plan. He is secretly raising up Livni, who earlier said she has retired from active politics for that purpose – to de-legitimise Israel, and open doors for more rocket attacks – from Gaza, Judea and Samaria, Hezbola, Lebanon, Syria, Egypt, Iran, Jordan, etc. The Egyptian axis is another plan, hence the US is so silent over what is happening in Egypt. The Brotherhood was Obama’s secret plan and he is secretly supporting Morsi. ISRAEL SHOULD NOT VIEW THE EU PROTEST AS AGAINST BIBI, BUT AGAINST THE STATE OF ISRAEL. ISRAEL SHOULD RISE UP IN SUPPORT OF BIBI. ISRAEL SHOULD RISE UP IN STRONG PROTEST AGAINST OBAMA AND THE EU. OBAMA, EU AND PAL, DOES NOT WANT THE EXISTENCE OF THE STATE OF ISRAEL. THEY WANT ISRAEL TO BE OSTRACISED/ANNIHILATED, BUT THANKS BE TO THE GOOD LORD GOD ALMIGHTY, THE US HOUSE OF REPS AND SOME SENATORS, CANADA, AND A HOST OF OTHER COUNTRIES, WHICH HAVE CONSISTENTLY STOOD BEHIND ISRAEL. WHEN HAS THE EU CONDEMNED ROCKET ATTACKS ON ISRAEL? IT IS ONLY WHEN ISRAEL RESPONDS IN SELF DEFENCE, THAT YOU SEE THE SHOUTING. ABBAS BREAK THE OSLO ACCORD. ANY PROTEST OR CONDEMNATION FROM EU? NOT AT ALL.
44. #37 You ARE referring to the Aborigines, right?
A ,   Belgium   (12.04.12)
45. Good the ambassadors got a chance
Ralph Haglund ,   Sweden   (12.04.12)
to teach some foreign ministers about the Oslo Agreement, that EU witnessed but never read. Bibi should tell the EU that for every idiotic scream from them the oil and gas Israel soon will export, will get more expensive. Australia starts to buy in on the gas, Russia is interested, EU knows nothing, only that they hate all Jews.
46. Israel becoming apartheid state
Tom   (12.04.12)
It is unacceptable that millions of Palestinians have no right to vote in the parliamentary elections of the one state that has emerged between the Mediterranean sea and the Jordan river. Allow Palestinians their own state or give them the right to vote!
47. # 39 NOT a Sarah
bad Assed Jew ,   United States   (12.04.12)
OUTTA MEDS AGAIN ?? Perhaps you haven't noticed the varied and sundry wars going on in the area? Hopefully, when the dust settles, the loss of life will stop this insanity and perhaps allow life to continue without continuing mass suicide as you describe? rest easy, Israel will still win, the muslims will still lose and you, well, let's just say, will join the muslims in continually whining that you can never defeat Israel. Ha Ha, Enjoy your miserable life and that of your soon to be dead heroes.
48. To #22 Aussie Rob
ASTRONAUT ,   ME, USA   (12.04.12)
G'day Mate - how's about you comment on Aussie isolation of and genocide of the Aborigine peoples. Bigot.
49. Rob in Oz Land
ASTROANUT ,   ME, USA   (12.04.12)
"When people are forcibly removed from their homes and the lands upon which they have lived for centuries are stolen from them, people generally fight back." Bravo Mate! You've succeeded in making a total a$$ of yourself! Unless you are a native Aborigine, I suggest you shut yer yap. And if you are a member of that Ancient Tribe, then it's time for you all to glean some Fortitude from the Hebrew Tribe, whose Time Has Finally Come.
50. Here today(Obama), gone tomorrow:Israel forever!
tom ,   tel aviv   (12.04.12)
51. Mr. Obama is Looking for Situations....
Reuven Brauner ,   Raanana, Israel   (12.04.12)
where he can embarrass Israel. He found one here. By the way, since when is Israel a vassal state of the US? Must everything we do receive their approval? I thought we were a free, independent nation. Besides, "settlements" is not the real obstacle to peace but, rather, the Arabs total inability to come to terms with the Jewish return to our ancient homeland with our right to live anywhere we wish therein. The Europeans and Americans should squeeze the Arabs into permitting Jewish residence to continue and flourish unhampered. The real obstacle to peace was created by the Arabs, and only they can remove it.
52. #3 Thanks for teaching me what "hypocrite" means
A ,   Belgium   (12.04.12)
So you object to your tax money (which I assume would not amount to too much yearly) being "used to fund the illegal settlments of Israels far right." Fair enough, its your money that you, I assume, worked for and earned. On the other hand, do you have any objection to your tax money being used to support one of the most corrupt countries in the world (Egypt ranked 112 out of 182 countries on the Corruption Index of 2011, Israel ranked 36, the US 24. The US has awarded $2 BILLION ANNUALY to Egypt since 1979), or your tax money being used to support the terrorist organizations Fatah and Hamas ($550 MILLION, as a gift given by Obama during his FIRST TWO YEARS in office)? No objections? Than you ARE a damn hypocrite!
53. Why stop building? There is no peace with the Palestinians
David ,   Israel   (12.04.12)
And never will be! Besides its a lot more productive then what the Palestinians would do with that land which would either be another putrid area and not in a racist way but because as long as they are close to Jewish settlements/areas they must make it look awful to gain EU sympathy. The world seems to have forgot that less then a month ago rockets were raining down on us. Today it's Maale Adumim tomorrow it's Modiin, the next Holon then eventually Tel Aviv starting with Yaffo.
54. (35) Jack Stone
tiki ,   belgium   (12.04.12)
100% agree! This is about the 'sophisticated but intense Jew-hating Western word trying to 'finish the job under the 'primitive Arab/Muslim intense Jew-hating umbrella . Like this, they think they can keep their Jewish-blood drenched hands clean. They can't! Netanyahu 'got their number and that's what bothering them! Jews, fighting back the Western henchman.
55. # 3
Eaglebeak ,   Left Coast, USA   (12.04.12)
Much of the money Israel gets from us comes right back to us providing jobs here in the U.S. so it is being spent on Americans. Of course now that we have Obama who needs jobs? If there is any group than bites the hands that feed it you need look no further than the ersatz Palestinians. Israel constantly makes concessions and has given up land for peace and the ersatz Palestinians never make concessions or give up anything and yet you point your finger at Israel. A state isn't rogue just because it doesn't kiss your behind and looks out for it's own interests.
56. Can we criticize you for the killing of
Ben   (12.04.12)
Iman Al Hams, can we criticize you for forcing small children to open bags that are believed to contaion explosives. can we criticize you for building a monument to hero Baruk Goldstien. O while were on the subject can you tell me while hero Baruk Goldstien's house has not been bulldowzed. But I guess we all know the answer to that
57. To the US
Lila ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (12.04.12)
Doo-doo on you!
58. Nina # 13
Eaglebeak ,   Left Coast, USA   (12.04.12)
If they are like me they are tired of your music. You play the same song over and over. It was a lousy song the first time it was played. If only somebody would break your record and give us a break from this lame song you keep singing.
59. President USA regulator?
Herbert ,   Herzlia   (12.04.12)
The mayor of Jerusalem, Nir Barekat, said it in one sentence: " I do not know of one single city in the world whose regulator is the President of the United States.
60. Some digits.
Jules   (12.04.12)
Israel has the territory of 22000 sq. km. The Arab states in 1948 confiscated 104000 sq.km of land that belonged to the Jews who had been expelled from there. Therefore the Arabs owe to the Jews 82 000 sq.km of land. The time to repay the debt has come.
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