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Darkening clouds over Europe
Riccardo Dugulin
Published: 13.12.12, 18:02
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31. to #8 Gregg in Haifa
Bluegrass Picker ,   Afula   (12.15.12)
well now, let us take a look thru the Ynet archives and count how many times you swore on a stack of bibles that you're going to leave Israel because we're not good enough for you You're all talk. As they say in Texas: "big hat, no cattle".
32. #6 Finally something we agree on.
Tahl   (12.15.12)
That being your obvious stupidity and shortcomings.
33. #30. Nothing paranoid about telling the truth.
Chaim ,   Israel   (12.15.12)
#30 Angela. Instead of saying I "sound paranoid", why not try to logically refute my comment? There's nothing paranoid about telling the truth. However unpleasant it may be.
34. #12 The Irish Gombeen Man
Ben Ze'ev ,   Vancouver Canada   (12.15.12)
YOU are one stupid bugger. You have no idea of your own history at all. at all. You may or may not be a Jew,but it's what you say which is the stupid part of you. I was born and grw up in Dublin, I lived through the war. The country was full of anti-semitism. We had to creep home from Zion School by the back lanes to avoid the Synge Street baytzemer. Eventually Dr. Teller had to go to speak with their Head Christian Brother. It did no good, so eventually we finished school 10 minutes early. Many a fight I had, surrounded by schgotzim. The normal greeting was "go back ta Jerusalem yah dirty jewman" I used to see those dogs throwing ctones at Rabbi Brown, that poor old man. I was blackballed from 3 different clubs because I was a Jew. The records of the Dail will show that there was a party there which was pro Nazi, and the country was riddled with Germans. Did you ever hear of Gen. Eoin O'Duffy Fine Gael leader, and Garda Commissioner, and his fascist blueshirts. I saw and heard them marching....... The Dail records show that only 59 Jews were allowed into the country, and that Rabbi Hertzog wrote to De Valera from Israel pleading for him to allow Jews into Ireland. The politicians said that the reason they wouldn't let any more Jews in was because there was so much anti-semitism already they didn't want more. When the Board of Schechita wanted to bring in a qualified European Shochet already living in Manchester, to succeed Rev. Gudansky (Herman Good;s father) who was over 70 years old and wanted to retire, they wouldn't allow it.. Again, you don't know what you're talking about, and I give you the benefit of the doubt by saying that if you DID know, you wouldn't say what you have. The "no pogroms in Ireland" claptrap is purely cosmetic. frek the Irish use to lick themselves with. I had close relatives who were chased out of Limerick in the early 1900's by the pogrom there, led by that mashuggena priest. So...go and learn something about it.
35. Bigotry is bigotry
Joe ,   USA   (12.15.12)
Europe has a fascist problem, but anyone who thinks that Muslims are evil is part of that problem. In reality, groups like the Golden Dawn Party in Greece, who are eerily similar to the Nazis, target not just Jews but immigrants. Anti-immigrant, anti-Muslim hate, which many Jews are guilty of, will inevitably breed antisemitism if it is allowed to get out of control. An example of this is the anti-circumcision movement in Germany, which mainly targets Muslims but affects Jews just as much.
36. No Jew should be in Europe today..there is no future there
Al   (12.15.12)
as a result I do not see why anyone would want to support the Jews staying there. The Jews of France are waking uo to the reality that their lives there are over. They have options. There is an Israel, a Canada and even an Australia should they want to go there. Europe is done. It will turn into the cesspool it always was and will be till the end of time. Were Europe not a hell, there wouldnt be a Canada, a USA or an Australia.
37. Jews in Europe
Josh ,   Usa   (12.15.12)
As the Muslim population of Europe continues to increase, European foreign policy will only become more hostile towards Israel. Domestically, Jews living in Europe will increasingly become unsafe due to widespread anti semitism within large parts of the Muslim community. Look at France - it seems like all the time I am reading about some incident of anti-semitism or even attacks against Jews, usually committed by Muslims. And in Denmark, Israelis are warned by their ambassador not to wear any manifestation of Jewishness for their own safety!
38. 24 ,...
split ,   US   (12.15.12)
With whom, with sheepherders equipped with Soviet dilapidated junk with a cyrillic dashbords ?
39. people like scapegoats when they have trouble
zionist forever   (12.15.12)
After the defeat of Germany in WW1 the economy went into meltdown. Hitler did believe that Jews & communists were responsible for all Germanys problems but if it hadn't been for the fact the German people wanted somebody to blame for their trouble people believed in Nazi ideology even though in prosperous times they probably wouldn't have done. In Greece the neo Nazis are doing better than ever, the reason is they stand up for the people and they find people to blame for the countries suffering. The arabs are still obsessed with Israel because they want somebody to blame for their own failings. So many countries hate America because it has all the things they do not so America obviously got to where it is today from oppressing everybody else. Anti sematism is on the rise in Europe because people see Israel on the news oppressing those poor innocent arabs and Jews and Israel are part of the same package in their eyes. If Jews in Israel can cause the arabs to suffer then Jews in Europe are causing Europeans to suffer.
40.  39. people like scapegoats when they have trouble
split ,   US   (12.16.12)
So why do they allways pick up the Jews and not any other minority that managed to settle down among others? That's the case everywhere since beginning of time according to your fairy tales and in 109 countries and places since 250 AD according to historical records ,... Do you know any other bunch of squatters anywhere ripping off natives the way the Jews do?*** ,... *** I beg yur pardon, except Gipsies but they are a crawling todlers in rip-off busines next to you.
41. #10. Anti-Semitism is the only reason for hating Israel.
Chaim ,   Israel   (12.16.12)
#10 Doug. Your argument has no merit whatsoever. If one is against human rights abuse, one would condemn real abusers like China, Iran etc. To pretend Israel is a human rights abuser is ludicrous. In fact, virtually all the charges against Israel are ludicrous. They are motivated entirely by Anti Semitism in most cases. Among some young people, hostility to Israel is caused by leftist brainwashing or simply the desire to be trendy among so-called "progressives">
42. #40 You have a serious inferiority complex
Deb ,   US   (12.16.12)
And experience ripping off others. You couldn't make it in Poland so you came to the US seeking welfare.
43. #22. The Meottis and Dugulins seem t understand reality
Dave ,   New Mexico, USA   (12.16.12)
I wish there were more Meottis and Dugulins to tell you Europeans the truth, but you are so brainwashed by Palestinian propaganda aided by your own Left Wingers that you have become blind. There is no arguing about one thing: Europeans cannot stand a strong Jewish nation defying their vision of a ME solution. Your solution calls on Israel to assume risks that no European country will ever assume. If it works, great. We shrunk Israel. If it doesn't and the Islamists take over, alas. Israel must have deserved it.
44. #36/37 However, Jews in UK continue to GROW in numbers
Boaz   (12.16.12)
The fact you both even have a platform for spout off your garbage is a spam to whereever you're both from and were educated. I guess if you want to base your facts on what you read, think about where you read if and whats the agenda? *just saying*
45. No. 26
Madeleine ,   Israel   (12.16.12)
So why don't you get the h ell out of this country and crawl back to wherever you came from? Somebody forcing you to stay here? do us all a favour and please leave now!
46. Joe # 35
Eaglebeak ,   Left coast, USA   (12.16.12)
Of course, how could anyone who kills people over cartoons and teddy bears be evil? You mention Jewish hate breeding hate but you give Muslims a free pass. Before you point a finger at Jews you need to look at why they might hate. Muslims as a group bear responsibility for their actions. Until they address the problems they have within their group they will be hated as a group.
47. 44 - Jews in UK continue to GROW in numbers
split ,   US   (12.16.12)
They continue to grow in numbers everywhere where you can get free lunch guarantied by generous welfare system ,...
48. #47 Bet you know a lot about welfare
Ron ,   US   (12.17.12)
You wouldn't be trolling this site 24/7 if you had a job or something productive to do with your time.
49. # 47
Eaglebeak ,   Left Coast, USA   (12.17.12)
You never fail to show us how stupid you are. It's one thing we can count on but this time you really have outdone yourself.
50. Jewish home not a state
Leon ,   London   (12.17.12)
The Balfour declaration states a jewish home not a state. It also states , it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country.
51. To No. 50
Bertram ,   London, UK   (12.17.12)
Tut, tut. You are inviting posts which will say: there were no existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine - and, if there were, they were interlopers form 'Arabia'. After all, Eretz Yisrael was 'a land without people' waiting for 'a people without a land'. How convenient! Honest Zionists knew the score. In the late 19th and early 20th centuries Jews, especially from Eastern Europe, had experienced murder, persecution and dispossession, and therefore were in dire need of a place they could call home. Many, but by no means all, Jews found the answer in their historic homeland in Palestine. But, it was also the home for others who had lived there for centuries. Honest Zionists knew that there had to be an eventual way of living with the existing population. Dishonest Zionists did not like the reality of an existing non-Jewish population so they denied its existence - and still do.
52. 49 ,...
split ,   US   (12.18.12)
Google, Postville, Monsey, New Square, Kiryas Joel in US and Outremont in Canada to name few places where they dwell ripping off local population ,...
53. #52 You have no credibility on this site
(12.18.12)
And you don't know anyone living in these areas so buzz off.
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