The Lieberman within me
Yaron London
Published: 18.12.12, 01:00
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1. 2000 years too late, but better late then never...
Edithann ,   USA   (12.18.12)
I hope you have protection...as it's lonely and dangerous now that you're thinking for yourself.. ... TATA
2. a classic case od stockholm sunrdome
Gennady   (12.18.12)
3. I are wrong
ellie ben aron ,   russia usa israel   (12.18.12)
I grew up between as you say "goim" in Russia and can tell you some people hate Jew openly some not but meet very few who were indifferent to my jewish ethnicity. I consider myself very social person and like to communicate with people of different background and I find out that almost the same proportion exist in usa. I see that in Israel fill out that void self-hated jews like you. It is very sad
4. Distorted Analogy
Zechariah   (12.18.12)
Lieberman may be a crude corrupt buffoon but he is no Nazi.Futher the Russiian Jews lived amongst their non Jewish neighbours with powerfullyixed experiences.And they voted with their feet.Hardly any Jews in The Ukraine or Poland I wonder why.many more in Deutsland a big mix but in Human Rights Berlin not many in Bavaria.Lieberman by the way advocates a Palestinian State under the Cyprus model so tho often crass has Deterrant Value more tribal than fascist .
5. Terminate the Nazis
Zecharia   (12.18.12)
I also fantasize being a leader who organised under the Jews in 1932-1940 To Destroy the Nazi leadership. The top one hundred.Certainly Bugsy Segal with all his nasty faults wanted to and he was as it is said bad but was at least good to his mother.
6. sicko
michael Pielet ,   israel   (12.18.12)
This man london, is a diseased, sicko.
7. pseudo relativistic nonsense ,lack of knowledge of history
ab   (12.18.12)
and lack of undrstanding of the facts. Take Pol Pot: he was an equal opportunity murderer,not chosing some group of Cambodians over other to murder. Just like Stalin&Mao,glaringly absent from Y.L "list",perhaps becausehis "worldview" is regituration of some Kim Il Jong writings. Comparing plight of American Indians with industrialized anihilation of Jews is also a proof of lack of intelligence on the part of Y.L.
8. the one option London closes off
E. G. Marsch ,   Nahariya, Israel   (12.18.12)
It is a fact that the countries of the world treat Israel roughly and cynically. Recognizing this is not a matter of being a "Lieberman." As for the real Lieberman, not the caricatured demon whom London describes, he has actually worked effectively as foreign minister in improving Israel's ties with various Central Asian, East European, and even West European countries. He hardly thinks "all goyim are bad." Nor do other Israeli conservatives think that. They recognize a difficult reality and a rather jungle-like world of international relations, while still making intelligent distinctions. London presents juvenile terminology and concepts. The one thing he does not appear capable, ever, of pondering is intelligent conservatism.
9. I admit, I didn't read the article. Title was enough for me.
Tahl   (12.18.12)
The ridiculous title, together with the writer being Yaron London, is all you need to know about the nature of this op-ed - another piece of utterly inane leftist drivel.
...   (12.18.12)
ITS NOT WORTH IT we willalways have writes from the extreme side of insanity
11. Yaroni, let your inner Lieberman be your guiding light
Noodles ,   Coney Island   (12.18.12)
12. Truman (Lieberman) Jews
Steven Benassi ,   Silver Bay, MN USA   (12.18.12)
"Put an underdog on top and it makes no difference whether his name is Russian, Jewish, Negro, Management, Labor, Mormon, Baptist he goes haywire. I've found very, very few who remember their past condition when prosperity comes." -- Truman
13. the tragedy of the Native Americans ,...
split ,   US   (12.18.12)
,... or 8-10 million starved to death Ukrainians during one winter 32/33 in great famine designed and implemented by Kaganowich/Yagoda duo.
14. This article is borderline libel...
Joe ,   Ramat Gan   (12.18.12)
Lieberman publicly advocates the establishment of a Palestinian state. Not even our "Peace Partner" Mahmoud Abbas is willing to compromise on that point! I understand that people have a right to express their opinions, but this article is borderline libel.
15. Not a disease; it's true
Ephraim   (12.18.12)
Esav sonei et yaakov. The gentiles hate us. this has nothing to do with liberman ,it's a simple truth.
16. horribly offensive
michael ,   ta   (12.18.12)
17. was this supposed to be satire?
yosef ,   williamsburg US   (12.18.12)
What a base elementary article. Journalism?
18. Alinksy and Racism
israel israeli ,   tel aviv   (12.18.12)
First of all, this article reeks of racism. Calling someone an illness? London would only use that offensive term to attack the people he hates most: a Jew who immigrated from an FSR and succeeded. Racism aside, London can't argue with facts or Lieberman's logic. London can't avoid that the talented Lieberman was right and he were wrong. So he writes an article in the style of radical community organizer Alinsky: don't argue the facts, attack the person, make him a disease, mock him. As four your fourth paragraph Mr. London, we know exactly how you would have acted, and it is not to your credit.
19. I couldn't take Lieberman with its incessant hate, so I left
Michael ,   California, USA   (12.18.12)
20. Remind me of Jews of Vienna 1939
Tom W ,   USA   (12.18.12)
These people like the author were those who cleaned the streets of Vienna with tooth brushes ... and walked to their death obediently. It's not Lieberman who is in him but the ubiquitous ghetto spirit.
21. shameful and disgusting
Arn ,   Yehud, Israel   (12.18.12)
Yaron London would have done better than writing this utterly shameful and disgusting article. Whatever respect I once had for this gentleman is now forever gone.
22. No Lieberman in me
Michael ,   Haifa   (12.18.12)
Lieberman internalized the brutal political thuggery of the Soviet Union. He absorbed the criminal values of force to be used against opponents to his ideas and concepts. Most of his supporters come from the same political culture. Force, dishonesty and corruption are valued positively by them.
23. And what do you propose
Istvan ,   BUDAPEST HUNGARY   (12.18.12)
how to cure this illness ? Maybe to emigrate to the Andromeda galaxy ?
24. Sick and disgusting article
Daniel ,   JM   (12.18.12)
It is sad and disappointing to know that despite best efforts of one Moshe Rabeiny, some Jews have managed to smuggle their inner Yaron London from Egyprian slavery. Let your inner Lieberman fight your inner slave, Mr. London, and if he wins, there may still be hope for you. And if your inner slave is too strong, please, leave. Don't be a backbiter to true patriots fighting for the survival of your country.
25. A deeply offensive article
Shaul R   (12.18.12)
on so many levels: to Jews, to Israel, to Lieberman and, ultimately, to the author himself.
26. London is right
Isaac G ,   Israel   (12.18.12)
Nearly three generations after the Shoah and we are still a scarred people. There is no doubt the Shoah has impacted us tremendously, and has affected individual Jews -- in Israel and in Diaspora -- in various ways. We are now a strong, independent nation-state very capable of defending ourselves. The entire world is not against us, if it were we would have no trading partners, no relations with any states, no friends in the US Congress, no military ties with the US. International diplomacy is a matter of nuance while pursuing one's national interests. There is no room in government for those who take the view that the "whole world is against us". This is indeed a kind of myopia, that if left unchecked, will become a self-fulfilling prophecy.
27. THe anti-London within me
moshe ,   Tivon, Israek   (12.18.12)
The London within me: " I learned that NOT ALL of the goyim massacred Jews; they did NOT ALL shut their ears and M A N Y of them helped the Jews. what is London's concept of "M A N Y ? 10% of 208,000 Lithuanian Jews were NOT murdered. Israel has honored 700 Lithuanians as Righteous among Nations for risking their lives to save their Jewish neighbors. 700 peple in a population of 3,000,000. London's "M A N Y " is my pitifully "few" moshe
28. no. 26
E. G. Marsch ,   Nahariya, Israel   (12.18.12)
Yes, who is it in government who thinks "all the world is against us?" The present govt., emphatically including Lieberman, has worked very hard to make Israel's case on the diplomatic front, meeting with foreign leaders constantly, and hardly assuming that they're "against us." Why set up straw men and deal in the simplistic categories put forth by Yaron London? If you actually listen to what Israeli conservatives are saying, you will see that they are not engaging in these gross simplifications. It is possible to have a realistic view of international relations and still make distinctions and appreciate nuances. London must portray his intellectual opponents as one-dimensional demons. Then he gets to feel righteous himself, and not have to exert any effort in actually thinking about anything.
29. Responses validate london's point
Avramele   (12.18.12)
I thought the article as an historical polemic was very successful. What I did not realize was that it was the opening act of an interactive theatre piece with talkback responders exhibiting one by one through their own words the symptoms of stage four liberman disease. Bravo Bravo! to all who took the stage and rose to the occasion.
30. Now I know why arutz 10 has to close
Louisa ,   Ramat Hasharon   (12.18.12)
Is this article meant to be news? Or just a low life slander? I now totally agree that arutz 10 needs to go, and replaced by a respectable, professional channel. How pathetic a fat cat can become!
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