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Hollywood stars: 'How many more massacres?'
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Published: 22.12.12, 08:31
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1. school shootings
corey ,   pei canada   (12.22.12)
America is turning into a third world country with all the talk of sending armed guards into the schools. This is ridicoulous, why dont we just give all the school children bulletproof vests. that would be one solution. come on america why do you need ar-15's and assault rifles its not like your going hunting with them kind of weapons. GET RID OF THEM. BUT I GUESS IF YOU DID THAT THE POLITICIANS WOULDNT HAVE THE NRA VOTE.
2. A school shooting is nothing compared to genocide of a
Rivkah   (12.22.12)
disarmed populace! Genocide is what happens after people are disarmed, Hollywood! 30 miilion disarmed Russians slaughterd by Josef Stalin. 70 milliion disarmed Chinese slaughtered by Mao Tse Tung. 1.5 million disarmed Armenians slaughtered by Turks. 6 million Jews and 12 million Christians were first disarmed and then slaughtered by Adolf Hitler. Put armed guards in schools with Uzi's like in Israel! And put Shatterguard plastic glue paper on the inside of windows and steel sliding bolt locks on the inside of doors in schools, for goodness sake! When the public is disarmed, foreign nations will be more likely to attack and invade. The only reason Japan did not attack the US West Coast in WWII was because US citizens have guns. When the Mongol invasion of California hits, US citizens need assault weapons to defend themselves. The Koreans in the Watts riots of Los Angeles kept their homes and businesses from being burned down because they had assault weapons on the roof in the hands of defenders of the properties since the police would not go into Watts to protect people or properties. The Korean (South) government had to offer to protect Koreans in Los Angeles! But the Koreans there protected themselves with assault weapons!
3. Gun massacres will continue !
Arn. ,   Sweden.   (12.22.12)
'I Quote - According to demandaplan.org, the movement seeks to pass gun laws that require background checks for every gun sold in the US, ban assault weapons and high-capacity magazines and make gun-trafficking a federal crime. Comment - Those laws good in itself will never prevent Massacres and Massmurders. Even only with a Pistol with only a 7 shot Magazine, one could carry several 7 shot Magazines with oneself and extra ammo and still conduct a Massacre and Massmurder. No - the truth is - I Quote - "The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun." Arn.Sweden.
4. NRA calls for armed guards at every US school
Barbara ,   Haifa Israel   (12.22.12)
Okay - back that up with financial backing. Pay for it - if NRA provide the weapons for such slaughter, then it is their responsibility to provide protection against the crazies that plan to use their weapons.
5. In 1792, a rifle was a muzzleloader!
N ,   N   (12.22.12)
2nd Amendment was adopted on December 15, 1791. Assalt rifles of today are a far cry from the rifles of that time!
6. don't arm the naive and untrained
moshe ,   Tivon, Israel   (12.22.12)
gun control is a difficult problem in the USA. Millions of US citzens feel insecure without their own modern military weapons to be ready to repel... whoever ...both foreign invaders and domestic criminals. I personally doubt that 90% of USA gun owners have the training , the skill or the GUTS needed to defend themselves. TRAINED, armed school guards are the only insurance for schools in the USA. I my mind untrained citizenry; which includes braggarts, phoney heroes, tough guys, etc. should NOT be allowed access to high capacity, automatic and high calibre weapons. moshe
7. US Second Amendement must be scrapped.
penny lane   (12.22.12)
If uncontrolled arms are the key to freedom and peace, Somalia, Sudan , Jemen and Syria would all live in freedom and peace. Free men must stand up when stupid laws endanger their families and society. 2 Amendement must be SCRAPPED.
8. to all those constitutional types who
frank ,   rehovot   (12.22.12)
want to scrap the 2nd amendment because the framers used muzzle loading guns, or those that consider the costs vs the good. Are you also in favor of scrapping the 13th amendment because a majority of the prison population in the US is black? What is wrong with people being checked before the enter a school, mall or building? Not only does it increase employment, it makes people feel safer because they are safer. Cost? Is that the issue or saving lives? Would you ban tire irons if a murderer uses one? Knife? pen? fire? but guns are ok to ban? liberal really must try to get their understanding straight....
9. rivka
aaron ,   toronto,canada   (12.22.12)
Rivka,we're talking apples and you're talking oranges.I think the US military can protect the people quite well,regarding the LUNATICS in your statement I don't think the US government has what you mentioned in mind if they pass laws against the purchase of an AR-15 BY A CITIZEN.
10. Rivkah (2) and Moshe (6) are both right.
Orly ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (12.22.12)
Just becuase genocide doesn't happen everywhere that there are unarmed populations does not mean that is cannot happen anywhere. Meanwhile, existing laws should be enforced and training should be required for certain licenses (without "tagging and realeasing" every licensee).
11. My gun will not kill my neighbors.
Michael ,   California, USA   (12.22.12)
But many gun owners do not measure up to safe handling procedures or to protecting their guns from falling into the wrong hands. The statistics on killings by guns owned by individuals in the US overwhelmingly proves it is better not to have guns owned widely. It is the role of the government to protect its population, not to let me kill my neighbor by mistake. The government will put professionals behind the rifles, not leave it to countless individuals handle their guns amateurishly.
12. 2nd amendment
oliver ,   eilat   (12.22.12)
Israel needs less strict gun control,we have the right to be armed
13. Against stupid gun control propaganda...
PO ,   Ramat Gan   (12.22.12)
... based on emotional and elitist agenda. Ban assault rifles, ban hi caps mags, ban this ban that. If we look to the statistics, the guns are not mentioned by the CDC not even in the first TEN causes of death. If we look homicide statistic, baseball bats looks like the preferred means to end the life of your dears in USA. If we look to the stats of gun crimes by gun type, AR15s are used in a tiny fraction of the homicides in the USA. People, including famous ones, when it comes to guns just disconnects their brains and embrace popularity. And this is deadly WRONG. Because burning Jews, in the past, even a recent one, was a very popular practice. Use FACTS, not EMOTIONS, use BRAINS, not your BELLY.
14. I see that also Israeli journalists...
PO ,   Ramat Gan   (12.22.12)
... can't distinguish a CLIP from a MAGAZINE...
15. #7 Wrong Headed
Dan ,   Florida - Tel Aviv   (12.22.12)
The basic premise of the entire U.S. Constitution is that the citizenry was literate. Sadly those countries you named do not meet that basic criteria. The 2nd Amendment protects US from the Government. After all the bigger the Government, the smaller the citizen. Perhaps you feel safe having the Government take your guns and coddle & pet you but sooner or later that very same Government will turn on you as absolute power corrupts absolutely.
16. Film industry
joan ,   ramat aviv   (12.22.12)
The film industry should do some introspection on what type of films they are producing...and how it influences violence in our society.
17. What else do you expect from brain dead liberals?
Chaim ,   Israel   (12.22.12)
What America really needs is more guns in the hands of good citizens. Not allowing criminals to be the only civilians with guns. But what else do you expect from brain dead liberals?
18. As long as ....
Galut ia ,   Selah   (12.22.12)
Hollywood chooses to glorify violence in its movies and video games...the fascination with it in young minds will grow and be nurtured and those with personality disorders and those with personal vendettas will adopt the solutions as part of their mindset ....Hollywood writers and producers could be an instrument the solution ....the concept that violence and sex sells need to be redirected .... Hollywood just can't pay lip service to it .
19. to #7
graczek ,   Maryland, USA   (12.22.12)
You are on the right track, but need to go several steps further. Repealing the 2nd Amendment to the US Constitution is a worthy idea, but what really is needed is for the US President to declare a state of emergency and suspend all Constitutional guarantees pending the drafting and ratification of a new Constitution by a Constitutional Convention, more relevant to the 21st century. We also must recognize that times have changed much since 1789 and that individual liberty must be subordinated to the well-being of the whole.
20. #19 Who has a mentality of a slave...
PO ,   Ramat Gan   (12.23.12)
... will live like a slave. Benjamin Franklin wrote: "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." Invoking a state of emergency is the way that lead to dictatorship. US Constitution is one of the most enlighted ever written for a country, to grant people freedom. Too sad to read that there is people that are willing to give away, for a bit more of personal safety, the most precious of the conquests the humankind reached: FREEDOM.
21. #20 He who holds slaves
Pennylane   (12.23.12)
.....like all the "Founding Fathers" can not be trusted when it comes to freedom.
22. TO NR. 2.
SJOERD VAN DER VELDE ,   HOORN NH, HOLLAND   (12.23.12)
THE REASON WHY JAPAN DID NOT ATTACK THE US DURING WWII, IS THAT IT WAS TOO FAR AWAY FOR JAPAN FOR AN INVASION AND THAT THEY WERE DEFEATED BY THE US BEFORE THEY COULD DO SO. IF THEY WERE CAPABLE OF DOING SO THEN IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A DIFFERENT STORY. EVEN A DICTATORSHIP CAN ARM IT''S POPULATION TO FIGHT FOR THEM AGAINST (FOREIGN) ENNEMIES, WHEN THEY THINK IT IS IN THEIR INTEREST TO REMAIN IN POWER AS LONG AS POSSIBLE.
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