Israeli fighting Assad 'can't go home'
Hassan Shaalan
Published: 05.01.13, 14:43
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1. Bring them back
Jacob E ,   Holon, Israel   (01.05.13)
I think the Israeli government should put efforts into bringing these 2 back. I assume there is part of the laws of Israel that joining a foreign military voids your citizenship, particularly an enemy state. However there is a gray area with this because they are fighting against assad so there should be some kind of leniency. It would also be an indirect way to show solidarity with the rebels that we don't recognize them as an enemy.
2. Snakes can not be trusted!
Jon ,   Ottawa   (01.05.13)
Either side in Syria is a bunch of snakes! You join them, now pay the price!
3. Israeli Arabs should stay out of fighting
Mark ,   London, UK   (01.05.13)
As jews will get the blame for whatever they do.
4. rebels
Henri25 ,   Brussels-Belgium   (01.05.13)
Good riddance !!
5. That will teach you, Dude!
Mira ,   Vienna   (01.05.13)
6. Why didn't they commit to the IDF instead?
Mike ,   Australia   (01.05.13)
These two should've committed to Tsahal instead of terrorist rebels.
7. I commend these 2
the mad zionist ,   sf-ny-is   (01.05.13)
Israel should do everything in its power to bring them home safely. And I commend them for being courageous enough to go especially with Israeli passports, and to help their brothers from being slaughtered. Syria is a tough one right now. On one side you have assad-russia-hezballah-revolutionary guards. And on the other you have a brew of every radical sunni extremist sect that where some elements are some real low dirty shames. But you also have quite a few brave courageous patriots trying to defeat assad. Only problem is, wait until assad falls, and it becomes Libya 2.0 and the United rebels break off and start destroying eachother and Syria gets taken control by an external extremist group. Man, Obama's foreign policy In full effect. I pray for all the good women, children + fightas + civilians I'm Syria. I've always liked people I've met from Syria. Very sad what effect a Muslim appeaser has on innocent civilians, yeah you Obama
8. On one hand - Israel must help bring Israeli back.
leo ,   usa   (01.05.13)
On another hand - I kind of like the irony of the situation where Al Qaida de-Arabizing Palestine.
9. Wait a minute.
John ,   T-A   (01.05.13)
This man breaks the law by going into an enemy state, joins the militant force - very happily - do note this. The an idiot decides that it's too much for him, and presto - he wants to come to mamma Israel, from which country he had disassociated himself and have protection. My question is - how idiotic can a person be?
10. #1
Maurice ,   Montreal   (01.05.13)
Are you kidding me?... The rebels hate Israel and the Jews more than Assad and company! Some of their factions have already made some declarations stating that after Assad they will go after Israel! #2 is absolutely correct.
11. #1 It depends
Alex   (01.05.13)
On what rebel group they joined. If they joined Islamists they should be left in Syria, if they joined secular rebels they should get some help.
12. The FM should make an effort to get them back
Mark ,   Lodz, Poland   (01.05.13)
because they're Israeli citizens.
13. Sounds like he joined with a
Sam ,   USA   (01.05.13)
Taliban, Al Quaida or Iran backed fanatical group . He sneaked into Syria; he can sneak out. Why did he hand over his passport anyway? or did he ditch it thinking never to return.
14. # 13 Sam, is the logic...
Alex   (01.05.13)
...where are the facts ?? "... or Iran backed fanatical group." Iran is backing Assad. Why canĀ“t you Americans be updated before you speak and act ??
15. Awww .....
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (01.05.13)
.... all of a sudden, the excellent adventure is no longer either excellent or an adventure. The tips and tricks that they were doubtless hoping to someday use against Israel have been forgotten, and all they want is to come back to Israel. They handed over two genuine Israeli passports to elements hostile to Israel (anyone who believes that those passports were burned is a fool) which is a danger to the security of the State of Israel .... and now they want to come home to Israel. Tough. It's not exactly as if they were innocent tourists. They actively sought out, and joined, terrorist elements; elements which are decidedly hostile to the State of Israel. They made their bed, now they have to lie in it. Sometimes, there is no turning back. This should be one of those times.
16. let them rot in Syria
zionist firever   (01.05.13)
The fact that these arabs decided to not only goto a banned country but the fact they went to fight shows they have no loyalty to Israel so let them stay help the rebels build their new Syria.
17. Bring them back or cut them lose?
Zeus ,   Israel   (01.05.13)
"...taught them how to fight Assad's forces." These two are no more a civilian but now militia. Who could guarantee on their part that they wouldn't join Hamas quest against our country once their safe return?
18. Unfortunately....
Ellen ,   Israel/NYC   (01.05.13)
Israel needs to do what it can to bring them back. If they are Israeli citizens then Israel must do for them what it does for any other Israeli citizen who acts stupid. ( and there are plenty of Jews who act stupid) Now, my background is very right wing and some would think I would say, let them rot! However, if we are to continue to say we are a free democratic state, that although we ARE and must continue to be a JEWISH state, we are ALSO a state that respects all of its' citizens. Fighting to bring them back will help prove this point.
19. #12 is right, they are israeli, the same law for everybody.
Yossef   (01.05.13)
20. to #1
salim ,   baghdad   (01.05.13)
They Joined an armed rebel group against the syrian regime no matter is a civil war or how bad asaad is by israeli law they had committed a crime aiding terrorists factions and putting in danger israel security against any reprisals of syria, they should be prosecuted by law and jailed if they ever touch israel again
21. Sorry #18, You don't have to prove ANYTHING to ANYBODY.
Harry Wright ,   UK   (01.05.13)
It is a mindset like that which causes you to be an eternal appeaser - forever trying to make friends, even against your principles and even against your own safety. I totally disagree with your slant - doing things to IMPRESS the neighbours. NO WAY!!!
22. Some idiots aleways appear somewhere..
Beary White ,   Norway   (01.05.13)
.. and these islamic guys sure thought war is a kind of game. And when fingers get burned they understand that beeing a martyr is a hoax, a lie of life, brainwashed from their imams. And as #15 says, those passport will be used by terrorists in the future to enter Israel to kill israeli citizens. Do not help those to idiots back.. Even islamic followers from Norway have travelled to Syria to be martyrs, and hopefully they will reach the goal, cause we do not want idiots back. LOL
23. To: No. 18
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (01.05.13)
Ellen, they voluntarily surrendered their Israeli passports to enemies of the State of Israel. For all we know, those passports are in Iran right now, being doctored. Responsible citizenship is a two-way street. The nation is responsible for its citizens, and the citizens must be responsible -- and held accountable -- for their actions. This isn't a game. Besides -- the terrorist wannabees are in Syria. Israel does not have diplomatic relations with Syria. Perhaps that is something that these two miscreants should have thought about before jumping into the fray. The only thing worth getting out of Syria are the 1,000 or so Jews who remain trapped there and the remains of Eli Cohen, z"l. I'm not interested in repatriating traitors who willingly handed over their Israeli passports. That they would so such a thing tells me all I need to know.
24. To bring rhem back is suicide
Steve ,   Dallas USA   (01.05.13)
Tgese are men who swore allegiance to Islamic fighters who would destroy Israel. They have been given training in guerilla and probably terror tactics. And some of you want to bring them INTO Israel? Are you mad? Their former possession of an Israeli passport was an accident of birth - it entitles them to nothing in any kind of sane world.
25. Ordered to be the next suicide detonation probably
Cameron ,   USA   (01.05.13)
Often the fate of those running off to play Muslim warrior in foreign climes I've heard.
26. To Sarah B. nr. 15.
Sjoerd van der Velde ,   Hoorn NH, Holland   (01.05.13)
Dear Sarah, I enjoyed this talkback of you. You are so correct 100%. The State of Israel could have taken away the citizenship/nationality of those who behave in this way. Then it is not the responsibilty of Israel anymore. They chose for their Arab/Islamic brothers and sisters, for their arab/Islamic brother(s)-people(s), outside Israel, who are hostile to Israel unfortunately. They also can be considered as traitors and have to take the consequences of their acts.
27. if you live by the sword...
Pablo ,   NYC,USA   (01.05.13)
then you will die by the sword...
28. We must bring our boys homs.
Abdul ,   Jaffa   (01.05.13)
29. First of All - Visiting in Syria is Illegal
Orly ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (01.05.13)
... There's no way they let him in on an Israeli passport, he had to have a second passport to get into Syria. Second of all, any Israeli with citizenship will not be turned away from the border or deported after entering to a border crossing. If he still has an Israeli passport, he won't be able to leave Syrian border control, given he has no other passport, and there are no border crossings with Syria. But he can go to the embassy of whatever country issued him his first passport and have it reissued, and then enter Israel from a different country traveling on the other passport. The question is: How did he enter Syria, and will he be tried for breaking the law upon returning to Israel?
30. #18 And who would you suggest Israel fight
A ,   Belgium   (01.05.13)
in order to bring these two idiots back...Assad? The rebels? Iran? Maybe trust the Turks or Egypt to weave some diplomatic magic? Even the thought isn't worth the effort, they can stay in Syria. At least they will be two potential terrorists less that Israel has to contend with.
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