Isolationism will backfire
Hagai Segal
Published: 13.01.13, 19:51
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1. what drivel...
rob ,   Orangevale USA   (01.13.13)
Only a fool would ever underestimate our resolve to remain free and open. The president works for us and if we tell him to commit to open warfare, he has no choice but to obey. It's called our Congress. They work for us as well and will do as we say. You seem to keep forgetting that. When Japan struck Pearl, we smashed them. When the world trade center was destroyed, we killed over a million people to make sure they understood. We are bringing our troops home now. We all, as Americans expect nothing less than a showdown from the mad mullahs, and we are ready for whatever they do. Don't cry for us. We can cry and destroy the enemy at the same time. And will. There are 20 billion(sic) guns in our country, and every one of us will shoot at anyone that harms or plans to harm us, right here at home, but long before that we will go to them first. G-d help the country that comes our way, with destruction of our way of life as it's goal. We have had lesser presidents in the past, and still make it just fine. Shalom Israel, Rob
2. Freudian Slip... Israel's "Isolationism will backfire"
Steve Benassi ,   Silver Bay, MN USA   (01.13.13)
3. Obama is an unmitigated disaster in every respect.
Chaim ,   Israel   (01.13.13)
There is not a single thing Obama has done, since his 2008 inauguration, which is good for America. America has the sky high unemployment rate and food stamp usage (over 47 million Americans on food stamps) to prove it. Moreover, it is ludicrous to let Obama take credit for the killing of Bin Laden. Obama is an unmitigated disaster in every respect.
4. Isolation is the Path !.
Arn. ,   Sweden.   (01.13.13)
Its not the US task before HASHEM, to take Isalm on. That task belongs to this One - Daniel 12 21st Century King James Version (KJ21) 12 “And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince who standeth for the children of thy people; and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation, even to that same time. And at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one who shall be found written in the book Revelation 6 6 And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals; and I heard, as it were, the noise of thunder, one of the four living beings saying, “Come and see!” 2 And I saw, and behold, a white horse, and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him, and he went forth conquering and to conquer Revelation 12 7 And there was war in Heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, 8 and prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in Heaven. 9 And the great dragon was cast out — that serpent of old called the Devil and Satan, who deceiveth the whole world. He was cast out onto the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. Arn.Sweden.
5. Collateral Contradictions
Zechariah   (01.13.13)
Genocide Prevention Policy Makers in Obamas administration may not welcome Chuck Hagel they will be stretched though with Bribes things can be done very good things and very bad things.As for the delusion high welfare whith those bank and CEO bonuses seems contradictory.
6. Traditional right wing rubbish.
Abe ,   AZ   (01.13.13)
The defense budget of the US is bigger than defense budget of the entire free world combined. Rightly so Obama realizes the biggest threat to US national security is economical not military. This fool is falling into the anti Obama Anti Hegel spin without minimal understanding of what he is talking about.
7. this is article is amateurish and poorly written...
Rafi ,   US   (01.13.13)
... even if I agree with some of its themes
8. isolation might be good
israeli paratrooper   (01.13.13)
there was a time when isolation could have been an act of design . now it is an act of destiny . the empire is simply too overstretched . for israel , an isolationist america would be a blessing . israel can finally turn itself loose anytime it feels in danger . its enemies have benefitted greatly from israel being kept handcuffed by the west's appeasement.
9. #3 Chaim...
rob ,   Orangevale USA   (01.13.13)
The halting of war in Iraq is huge. The draw-down in Afghanistan is what we, the American people want him to do. Hardly an 'unmitigated disaster'. He makes sure there are no starving Americans be it 1 or 100 million. You must have a problem with poor people, but again that's your problem. Again only a 'disaster' to a buffoon. Osama Bin Laden (may the fish feast on his corpse) was killed on directions from our commander in chief. He didn't say HE killed the scumbag, but make damn sure, he stayed up nights making it happen. Disaster you say? Hardly. He will preside over the upcoming war with Iran and your nation will only be a secondary one in this endeavor. The 'sky high' unemployment rate has been dropping steadily and continues to do so. Chaim, most of your posts show some intellect. Today is not your shining moment. Talk about something you know about. Whatever that is... Shalom Israel, Rob
10. To # 1
Rick ,   USA   (01.13.13)
Drivel is what you posted. The article is spot on.
11. #1 compared to your nonsense
HaifaGuy   (01.13.13)
this article oozes logic. Reading your post one may think this is a pre-invasion Iraqi bragadoccio and it would be fine if it wasn't written by an American.
12. Ridiculous
Sarah B ,   Tel Aviv/London   (01.13.13)
Obama is reconfigurating the United States strategic stance to counter China in the pacific basin. That is why he has warned the UK to stay in the EU so they can be America's lapdog in Europe. Fact is in the scheme of things the Middle East are going to play a bit part in th next century as new technologies replace oil. For Israel that will mean a more distant relationship as Iraq stabilises further and becomes the base for the US to operate from in the Middle East to keep an eye on Iran Our day in the sun is coming to a close, the fact we are still an occupying power due to the idiocy of our politicians should be sounding alarms throughout Israel
13. #3 Yet Chaim
Sarah B ,   Tel Aviv/London   (01.13.13)
He just won the election to have a second go. Must be doing something right.
14. #1 look at what he's done
israel israeli ,   tel aviv   (01.13.13)
Obama is reducing the size of the US military, but is militarizing the CIA. Soon, the military (under control of the people through congress) will be secondary to the CIA, the President's personal army free of congressional control. Already you see how badly this is working out: drone war in Pakistan/Afghanistan killing thousands of innocents who will now hate America, the destruction of Libya that has released weapons for Jihad and led to the civil war in Mali, execution of US citizens without trial, widespread enhanceed interrogation, and of course Syria that some predict will be a disaster even worse than Obama's Libya.
15. Isolationism & indifference: a boomrang
Alan ,   Canada   (01.13.13)
There is no country that is self sufficient be it in petrol or some other necessary commodity. This means free business exchanges between equals is a precondition for economic health. However, economic conditions are poor in many countries & the resulting political instability in these countries is a source of conflicts, autoritarian regimes. Examples abound of Isolationism & indifference backfiring on those countries whose politicians expected uninvolvement would secure homeland peace. We know the 60 million deaths of WWII as a result of the allies letting nazis rearm Germany. Did it spare the US ? The Brits or the French? Not helping over the years African countries to benefit from their natural ressources & to reduce poverty so that democracies may have a chance, is now causing headaches in Europe burdenned with waves of illegal immigrants. Relying on Isolationism & indifference & hoping for the best is a long term disaster recipe.
16. Obama's version of a "hudna'
Arnold ,   Canada   (01.13.13)
Militarily America can wipe out any other country except for China. Even Russia is not in the game. Right now China owns America. Obama needs to cut back on expenses in order to bring America back to its fighting weight.
17. Nr 4. Read and Ponder !.
Arn. ,   Sweden.   (01.14.13)
http://www.ourchurch.com/member/e/e/index.php?p=1_10_Yugoslavia We will be surprised to what will happen in former Yugoslavia. Dont despise the small beginning. Arn.Sweden.
18. Right choise
olavi ,   espoo, finland   (01.14.13)
It is time for America to solve the problems of its own, preferably economical one. Ít is no use for USA to be everywhere and deliver it money all around the world. Every country must taka care of itself. Whatever happens. If tse will wage wars, so what. USA is not in danger. Why should it care about others and leave its own peple in sidestrack.
19. right wing drivel
leroy ,   nyc   (01.14.13)
"A week ago he thwarted the Republican plan to cut his irresponsible welfare budget." Any commentary that recites that drivel is worth dog poop.
20. Can't win with those right wing loonies.
If US t ry to get involved, the loonies scream, none of your business stay away. Staying away, the loonies scream isolationism will backfire... hey loonies...what do you want?
21. #9 Rob. America is far worse off under Obama than under Bush
Chaim ,   Israel   (01.14.13)
#9 Rob. Unemployment is surging under Obama. Obama is dropping tens of millions of Americans, from the statistics, because they've given up looking for jobs. Labor force participation rates, under Obama, are among the lowest in American history. To say nothing of the 47 million plus Americans on food stamps. America is far worse off under Obama than Bush. There is not one good thing an honest person can say about the Obama presidency. Sad but true.
22. #14 yet again...
rob ,   Orangevale USA   (01.14.13)
israel israeli (why no caps on your nom?) You say, " Soon, the military (under control of the people through congress) will be secondary to the CIA, the President's personal army free of congressional control." The CIA is a national institution. It is overseen and funded by a select group of senators and congressmen chosen specifically for their rank and seniority in such matters. Everybody is accountable. Ever heard of General Petreaus!? What destruction of Libya! Is Libya suddenly gone from the map, or was it relieved from the despot Gadaffy! It amazes me that you seem to think we have governments inside governments. Our government is 'for the people. by the people'. I thought even the right leaning Israeli's have rudimentary understanding of how we live here in America. It is obvious that you will believe what the heck you want to believe come hell or high water. That aint my problem. i will always be here to dispel the lies, just as you must when your precious state is maligned. You complain about about how badly 'our drone campaign is working!? Yet, I see dead terrorists strewn all over their perspective territories as opposed to ours. "Thousands of innocents" is the exact description of the victims of the world trade center. Remember that israel israeli (with out the respect to even capitalize his nations name.) Don't cry to me and lie at the same time. That sounds too much like your neighbor next door. Shalom Israel, Rob
23. #11 Haifa guy, oozing...
rob ,   Orangevale USA   (01.14.13)
The article may 'ooze' something, but logic isn't it. You may think you are a tough nation, but in reality, compared to mine, you are a pimple on a bears ass. Drivel no. Reality, yes. Learn something from the only nation on earth that keeps you from extinction. Man, I hate these truths. Shalom Israel, Rob
24. Isolationism will backfire
I agree with the author's analysis. I have always thought that Obama was a pacifist and isolationist and this is the course he wants the US to follow. this did not work after WW1 and it will not work now. The US must work to contain Islam or there will be war everywhere. These people are more dangerous than the Soviets were because they believe in their cause. If they win, most of the will again fall under totalitarian and repressive governments.
25. Obama's ever shrinking America
Cipora Julianna Kohn ,   Z   (01.14.13)
obama is the most dictatorial president in history. he has no respect whatever for separation of powers. he rules through executive orders. his foreign policy has been a total disaster. he has enabled islamists to take power in previously pro-western moderate arab countries. he will let iran go nuclear. he is drasticly reducing the us military while militarising the cia, thus having a private army of his own. obama's foreing policy is outside the mainstream of us national security establishment.
26. Segal's Arrogance
Michael ,   Haifa   (01.14.13)
The bottom line of Segal's piece is that Obama must act in accordance with Segal's approval or disapproval. The President of the United States would be well advised to heed the words of a convicted ex-terrorist, an expert in "practical" politics.
27. Another war in the Middle Eat? Just what America needs!
miki ,   tampa   (01.14.13)
28. I said it b4 - my conspiracy theory is now holding up
Barbara ,   Haifa Israel   (01.14.13)
Obama is here to weaken America and make way for the Muslims - see if I'm not right. All that Obama has been doing till now proves my point. Hope we (all decent people) have the strength to forbear.
29. #22 I am sorry
israel israeli ,   tel aviv   (01.14.13)
but you are very wrong. I can't write a complete article, so let's focus. The casualties of the 9/11 Arab attack on WTC were innocent victims. We can also discuss whether the Afghanistan invasion was a good idea. neither of these change the fact that Obama's drone war with 90%-95% innocent dead lost any gains you might have made there. No one can explain what US interest was served by destroying Gadaffi. Yet, Obama illegally and with no discussion, no approval and no congressional oversight sent the militarized CIA to "liberate" Libya. As predicted, innocents lost their lives, property and are plunged into poverty to live under a worse despot. Now, Africa and the Near East are flooded with high-quality weapons that are snapped-up by local warlords and Jihadis. Just look at what is happening in Mali. You should understand that "government of the people, by the people, for the people" SHALL perish from the earth if you let any President have his own private army. This is not an Israeli issue, capitalized or not: at stake is the liberty of the American people.
30. Me too Barbara!
Nechama ,   Sydney, AU   (01.14.13)
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