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Report: Obama said 'Israel doesn't know what's good for it'
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Published: 15.01.13, 10:57
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31. #16 "better off" is relative
Noa   (01.15.13)
It depends on what you mean by that. If the outcome of leaving the WB is what we have seen since leaving Gaza then I prefer not to be better off.
32. Some people don't like the reality
Sarah B ,   Tel Aviv/London   (01.15.13)
of the situation that Israel is in thanks to the short term domestic political opportunism by Netanyahu. The reality is with Iran achieving parity with Israel as early as next year Israel needs as many friends that it can get, and I am afraid that includes a bit of give and take. At the moment Netanyahu believes in taking and not giving, and that is going to lead to a world of hurt down the road. No wonder his main achievement whilst being PM is building a bigger fence between Egypt and Israel and proposinga bigger fence between Syria and Israel.
33. above
moishe   (01.15.13)
Obama as president is beyond his ability. will not be remembered as great president. smart but not capable to lead US. would have lost if GOP had better candidate both times. will leave a muddled legacy in ME.
34. I don't know what's the big deal ?
David ,   Israel   (01.15.13)
Its all media hype about this area for construction really. Frankly the Palestinians should be happy seeing as they are having such difficulty dealing with their constantly dwindling economy from all it's corruption and poor choices, alongside raised prices in living. Many will be employed in the construction projects. Obama has too much national interests to worry about Israel for the same reason he has been ignoring Iran for so long. Israel is vilified for defending itself so what difference does it make to build on its own land? If we become abandoned by whatever spineless friends we have so be it, atleast we can take our gloves off in future conflicts rather then appear weak like the Arabs believe us to be. Leave E1 as a future land exchange for the Palestinians when we are forced into peace talks with Iran after destroying their nuke program all by ourselves. Better that then Maale Adumim or Jerusalem or Modiin or whatever other area theyd demand if we didn't have E1
35. Obama knows
Paul ,   Jerusalem   (01.15.13)
We all know that Obama and his Socialist fascist party spread the rumor that BIbi interfered in America's election, now we see the Kenyan Czar himself truly interfering, since he knows more than us wayward Jews will ever know about our own survival, and the destructive nature of the degenerates who choose to harass Jews.
36. I'M VINDICATED
tony ,   nigeria   (01.15.13)
I did say that Obama was covertly behind the UN-PA saga, the EU rantings, Livni and so on. Now to the doubting thomases, the cat has been let off the bag. Look at his arrogant comments/insinuations as if he is the Almighty God. Benjamin Netanyahu does not what is good for Israel? Because he has refused his plans for more rockets into Israel that would have come from Judea, Samaria and Jerusalem? Was it Obama that has been protecting Israel all these years? Why is he fighting the drug pushers in the Mexican border that pushes only drugs and not rockets? Why is he angry against the gun trotters in US of recent if it was good for America? Why is he fighting the enemy in Afganistan if it were good for the Afgans? If Osama Bin Ladin, a stark enemy of the US, just like the PA, Hamas and others who have never one day favoured the existence of Israel , was good for the Americans, why did he kill him?Israel shine your eyes. Obama wants Israel anihillation. He has installed Morsi and the Brotherhood in Egypt, and turns blind eyes to whatever Morsi does. Gaza should serve as a great lesson to you Know your enemy, and be wise. It is only Bibi, with the help of the Almighty God, that has the gut to stand Obama. Vote Bibi if you don't want more rockets attack.
37. What is the Arab's claim
J. Frank Mortimer ,   Jerusalem Israel   (01.15.13)
Could Obama, or any reader, please explain the basis of any Arab claim of ownership of this part of the Judean Desert. In recent history, the Holy land was occupied by the Turks, then the British. Nobody has ever lived in the E1 zone. It was occupied for 19 years by Jordan, thereafter for 45 years by Israel. So it might be, Turkish, British, Jordanian or Israeli. But why should it be "Palestinian"?
38. If Isrel offered the PA gold the UN would denounce it
Eric ,   Tel Aviv & NY   (01.15.13)
With more than half of the UN automatically voting against Israel, and Europe moving towards Muslim majority populations, how much must Israel worry about isolation. It is time to protect ourselves and not worry about others opinions.
39. What can you say about Bibi?
(01.15.13)
What can you say about a government that thinks that Arthur Finkelstein and Glenn Beck and Dan SeƱor know the pulse of the world let alone one country? That like the martyrs of Massada and the self- destructive followers of Bar Kochba they were proud, stupid and ultimately wiped away as the Jewish nation around them suffered. Vote next week as the lives of our children depend on it.
40. Obama knows better than a Jew
basri ,   paris france   (01.15.13)
Obama became the clown to teach the nations how laughing is good for him.
41. Mr. President I dont agree with your view
sam sweiry ,   Eastbourne UK   (01.15.13)
Sorry with all due respect to your position as the President elected by the US People Please keep your opinion to yourself Look at US Neighbours none will say openly they want to destroy the USA but look in the Middle East all Israel neighbours wish Israel will be wiped off the map
42. #15 - do you remember the Palestine vote in the UN?
spyguy ,   seattle, usa   (01.15.13)
Other than the US, there is NO OTHER COUNTRY that will lift a finger for Israel. Israel has no resources that other countries can not get elsewhere. Not even the US needs Israel, especially with the US closing bases around the world and moving its military back to the US. if you think you can survive without the US, tell Congress to stop all help, Americans will be thrilled to spend less cash.
43. A Real Double Standard
Jeff ,   bev .hills ca   (01.15.13)
When it comes to the usa they are still bombing terror targets in pakistan, afgan, iraq, 10+ years after 9/11 when it comes to israel obama wants bibi to talk to the terror groups there is no talking to these radicals, they barely understand force, let alone talk grow up people, this isnt about left or right, this is about obamas anti israel agenda, show me a man with the name hussain that likes jews and ill show you a dinosaur and there is nothing israel can do to get obama to like israel, she of leaving israel, handing it over to arabs and all israilis to jump into the ocean bibi is the only hope, and even then, given how weak he was last war, he might not even be strong enough, but of the few out there, hes the best choice
44. Obama Plan and Livni's Plan
Bill Stein ,   USA   (01.15.13)
Livni's and Obamas Plan is to have 5 million Palestinians within walking distance of Tel Aviv based on her 9 mile wide border plan.
45. When an Obama
Paul ,   Jerusalem   (01.15.13)
tells Jews what to do, Jews know to do the opposite.
46. This type of anti-Bibi article is because of the elections!
michael redbourn ,   Arad Israel   (01.15.13)
47. #9
peter ,   tel aviv   (01.15.13)
what do you expect Tambour? you are listening to Fox News. Next thing you will tell us that US gun laws are to strict and that the tea party is a left wing rubble. And all those with the smart comment of "with friends like this..." Do you really think we can only demand and take and blame and do whatever we want and still have friends? Anyone criticizing is automatically antisemitic and a leftist slug. So what are you complaining about go out vote for Bibi and Bennet throw in some ultr orthodox into the coalition and all is well. You will get the Apartheid state you want, be left without friends and allies in the world and can run this country into the ground.
48. Sorry to have to mention
Miriam ,   Jerusalem   (01.15.13)
that in Genesis Israel is described as "A nation that dwells alone". This is not the choice of Jews, or the result of mistakes, it is a fact of God's reality. The nation of Israel will never find quiet and peace within the degenerate, hopelessly nonredeemable world. The truthful and the liars are worlds apart. Sorry, all you folks that wish to dream otherwise.
49. Obama's comments make sense but...
Naftali ,   Modiin Israel   (01.15.13)
What Obama is saying makes sense except for the fact that no matter what Israel does it does not have many friends. Yes in the eyes of the world it was not a good decision the reality is that the world looks for reasons to be upset with Israel and condemn us. The truth is that Israel has not done anything that every other country has not done. Here is the reality in 1948 the land was split. In 1967 they took a gamble and wanted more land they lost why should they get ti back? actually all the other arab nations gambled. No one spoke up when Jordan stole their land. You can not have it both ways. Here is a question would there even be a discussion if Israel would have lost and would have been left with Tel Aviv and Ber Sheva and they had all the rest of the land. Would anyone be calling for Israel to get its land returned?
50. Israel's interest is building E1 ASAP.
trump   (01.15.13)
51. Ignore him and send a message...
David ,   Rishon Lezion   (01.15.13)
...by voting for Bibi. Giving Bibi a stong mandate through a strong coalition will send a message to the world.
52. he also knows what the arabs need, right?
Bar ,   Israel   (01.15.13)
53. his travesty, king obama, knows best
m kiefer ,   miami usa   (01.15.13)
And he sets such a fine example pf good leadership for our country and the world...not! At least our neighbors canada and mexico dont want to exterminate us. Islam, the reliigion of pieces.
54. SUCH ARROGANCE BY OBAMA. Let Israel have its 3000 yr capital
Tsipi LIVNI ,   InObamasear, Jstreet   (01.15.13)
the so called palestinians, invented their history in the 60s. Jesus was not a palestnian, Moses was not Muslim, The Temples existed. These Arabs make up their own stories and everyone believes after hearing it 10k times. Obama, worry about your 16 trillion and counting debt. Thats what we US citizens want you to focus on, not creating a rift with Israel, but backing her up. You must know that Israel can never be 8 miles wide, and the Arabs will never agree and IMPLEMENT being non militarized. You my friend do not know the meaning of being a staunch supporter of Israel. It sounds like Livni/Jstreet
55. He's 100% correct
Giora Me'ir ,   USA   (01.15.13)
The Likudnicks are the gravest danger to Israeli's survival. But they're so enthralled with their own revisionist ideology, that they don't care.
56. Yo, estupidos: stop talking about "friends" in politics and
tom ,   tel aviv   (01.15.13)
please get off this "Dwelling-alone Nation" mantra! Infantile and unbecoming thinking. God did "bubkes" for us, so he/she/it cannot dictate anything. Let the Highest Authority find another ethnic group he can "bless" with next Shoah. Leave religion to Arabs and their Merciful Allah. We'd be better off solving our Earthly problems in our sovereign State of Israel...amen that!
57. Israel moves closer to UN sanctions
Dan ,   --   (01.15.13)
It's really only a matter of time until Israel becomes like South Africa or Serbia in being progressively sanctioned by the international community. All the pieces are in place (especially how right-wing Israelis refuse to accept how it is Israel's actions that are bringing it down.)
58. Obama is absolutely correct
Barry ,   Boston   (01.15.13)
What is good for Bibi and the right wing isn't necessarily what is good for Israel. When Milosevic ruled Serbia he promoted a Serbian nationalist agenda. It was "good" for Milosevic and his followers, but ended up being disasterous for Serbia. Bibi is taking similar misguided steps, which will make it easy for Obama and Hagel to walk away from supporting Israel. Don't be mistaken. Israel needs US support and it is not guaranteed.
59. Obama: Muslim's are breathing down our neck and the US......
Loren ,   Israel   (01.15.13)
economy is ready to collapse... We need their money and oil more than we need you Jews.... so Israel will obey and do what's best for America (even if it destroys Israel) or you Jews will pay the price. Now MOVE. And yes, of course we are still friends. (How DARE those Jews put their survival before my interests and America. Dang they make me mad).
60. It is high time that he who opposes racism stand for, not...
Jehudah Ben-Israel ,   Qatzrin, Israel   (01.15.13)
...against, the right of Jews to reside anywhere on planet earth instead of telling us, Jews, to limit our living space on it, only because we are Jewish!!!!! Not only has Mr. Obama been involved in the promotion of anti-Jewish racism by telling Jews to refrain from moving into and reside in certain villages, towns and even city neighborhoods. He has also done so contrary to international law, thus spitting at this important mechanism of regulating international relations, and he has added insult to injury by demanding that Jews don't dwell in parts of their own ancestral homeland. I strongly suggest to Mr. Obama and his advisers to finally cease acting based on "narratives", i.e. short fictional stories designed for political expediency, and instead read and study the meaning of the following: San Remo conference, 1920 League of Nations decisions, 1922 UN Charter, Article 80, 1945 UN Security Council Resolution, 242, 1967 Perhaps with greater awareness of the relevant legal framework even Mr. Obama & Co. will change their wrong, very wrong historic, ethical and legal view of the question at hand.
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