High Court to rule on gay adoption case
Aviel Magnezi
Published: 03.02.13, 09:19
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1. Best of luck to the couple
Haim ,   TA   (02.03.13)
Lets face it the Interior Ministry = Eli Yishai the well known homophobic rascist. The times are changing yet Eli Yishai and his cave man mentality want to drag us all back to the medevil times. just goes to prove the injustice same sex couples have to go through just to have the same basic human rights as straight couples. Good luck with your case and all the best to you and your family
2. sam sex:
george ,   ghana   (02.03.13)
oh israel do not forsake the protecter of your nation. God punishment is severe. obey the Lord your God as it is written. sam sex is abomination before our creator.
3. Who, just who?
Mark ,   U.S.   (02.03.13)
Who is bringing this trash(no pun) to the Holy Land, who is trying to force this lifestyle upon a humanity that we've alraedy been through this and know the consequences, the ink is dry on homosexuality, LGBT and any other perverted form of living in a 24 hour day cycle where attention should be on the Lord(reflection) and doing whats right,,,,,,,,,,,, is this a luxury that the Jews now have in the Holy Land purported for what? Who is preparing us for this big old Gay Fest(Feast),,,,,,,, who just who?
4. Difficult to comment
Mike Carmel ,   Rishon le Zion   (02.03.13)
It's a bit difficult to comment on this one. On the one hand I'm all for human rights and liberalism etc but the thought of a child being raised by 2 daddies is a bit daunting and who knows what the long term effects are? The child will also suffer at school because of this domestic arrangement. So where do you draw the line? I don't know.
5. Modern Anti-Semitism
Ariel Ben Yochanan ,   Kfar Tapuah, Efraim   (02.03.13)
B"H - As Jews accept only diverse-sex as marriage, same-sex "marriage", let alone same-sex parenting, is an anti-Jewish provocation. Let the Jews keep their only G-d given little Holy Land free from the nations' abominations.
6. good luck in your fight
marsha ,   haifa   (02.03.13)
hope you win!! And ignore the comments from the homophobes who have written here. Am sure you will be wonderful parents.
7. Get help not try to legalize sickness
lawyer ,   Herstelia   (02.03.13)
Keep this nausea far away form this land. This is not a matter of homophobia; but rather, a sick perversion. Baruch HaShem that some people still understand there is a simple right and wrong. Haim from Tel Aviv, at least have the decency to admit that you don't know a thing about Jewish life.
8. Are we a democratic country?
Moshico ,   Jerusalem   (02.03.13)
Wake up, we are in the 21st century and a lot has changed. Yes the Torah may not agree but that will be up to Hashem when it comes to Olam Haba. Did you or don’t you wish for your daughter or son to marry another Jew and that their children would have parents with a good profession and could afford to raise them. I believe two dads would be as good as a dad and a mum and it does not mean that the child would follow their dads footsteps. Don’t be so closed minded, I am not and I’m a modern orthodox Jew so if I can thing that way and not make the Heshbon of G-d then I think this country can. We are the only democratic country in the Middle East and we have to think democratic and that means equal right which our new government has to except.
9. bring disgust into the world
ma nishma ,   modiin   (02.03.13)
Just because America recognizes same sex marriages does not mean that we in Israel must tolerate such things. We still believe in the sanctity of a conventional one man and one woman relationship to bring children into the world. America may be big and rich, but it does not mean that it is always correct and in this, we differ.
10. Gay is a bad example to children.
Moshe ,   Usa   (02.03.13)
11. Warm greetings and goodluck
Rotem ,   Israel   (02.03.13)
This is the only way to win the darkness and ignorance in this world.
12. #2, #3, #7 - You are the ones who are SICK !!!
Rotem ,   Israel   (02.03.13)
Get a life, you poor people!
13. Fingers crossed!
Shlomo ,   Jerusalem   (02.03.13)
The time has come for Israel to join the modern world. All jewish families deserve respect and dignity. Although I am not gay myself, I fully support your struggle and wish you the absolute best!!!
14. To the homophobes out there...
Moshino ,   Tel Aviv, Israel   (02.03.13)
Don't disguise homophobia with fear of G.od or concern for society. Just say it: "I'm a homophobe and I'm irrationally disgusted by something outside of my reductive and restricted world." We will understand you - not agree with you, but understand where you're coming from - and that's a place of ignorance. A mom and a dad has never been a recipe for success, buddies, while I've seen other combinations that can be very successful, such as single mother+grandparents; grandfather and grandmother; uncle+grandmother and YES gay men and women. I've seen children of gay men and women in the US who are now healthy and fulfilled 25, 30 year olds. What's really important - and I'm not trying to preach here, but in all these different family nuclei what was really important was 1) that the children were surrounded by love, 2) that they received good education and 3) that they were taught values such as to respect every human being and understand we were all created in the image of G.od despite our differences and shortcomings. Wishing the couple much health and success.
15. Israel needs to move to civil marriage and or civil contract
Al   (02.03.13)
I am not gay but I respect peoples choices as to whom they love and cherish. This couple could have easily stayed either in Canada or the USA but they chose to be in Israel and to raise their child. Respect them for that and accept them as they are. The Jews of Israel must divest themselves from the stanglehold of the ultra orthoquack. Were it up to these penguin suited clowns there would never be an Israel.
16. It's all about Alon and Ilan
Devorah   (02.03.13)
It's about Alon and Ilan's "elemental human rights." Well, hardly a word about the baby's "elemental human rights" -- you know, that pesky little right that he or she is entitled to be raised by both a mother and a father according to natural order of things. And while Alon and Ilan are focused on advancing their big political and social agendas, the baby appears to have gotten lost in the shuffle. How many times have we seen the same thing? How sad is that? And G-d forbid, a person should advocate that the baby is entitled to a mother and a father lest he or she be called a "hater" or a "homophobe" among other things by the self-centered LGBT whiners. It's not hate, and it's not homophobia. It's called acting in the best interests of the child. Do not counter me with arguments of children raised in normal households encountering problems. I know that. This is not the same. This is intentionally starting the child off in life with two strikes against because you want to make a statement to the world. And to me, that is unconscionable. Oh yes, it's all about Alon and Ilan.
17. Devorah # 16
Moshino ,   Tel Aviv, Israel   (02.03.13)
I completely disagree with you. It's not about Alon and Ilan; it's about the rights of two well-rounded, intelligent, professional and loving individuals to raise a child. Why is heterosexuality no guarantee of a successful upbringing? Because raising a child does not have anything to do with GENDER. It has to do with the person's ability to bring up a child. And for that matter, I'm sure a child would much rather be adopted by a capable, nurturing and loving single parent than 2 irresponsible and immature parents no matter what their gender is or what they do in bed. I know you will not agree with me and that's fine. But at least you should know for some people - like me, it's REALLY NOT about Alon and Ilan or whoever it may be. And one more thing: just because it was important for you to have 1 mother and 1 father, don't assume it's the same for everyone. I have close friends who grew up without their fathers, are amazing HETEROSEXUAL individuals that do not need a shrink possibly any more than you or I do and never bothered.
18. Good will!! bless you and good luck !!
Shai ,   Ramat Gan   (02.03.13)
19. Mazel Tov!
Sherlock Holmes ,   London England   (02.03.13)
Having a baby is a simcha, but just the same a baby cannot have two biological fathers and no mother. One father is the biological father and the other must be adoptive. Biology is biology.
20. #17 - Moshino
Devorah   (02.03.13)
Moshino, I appreciate your comment, and your points are noted, particularly the one about children growing up with no father at all (or no mother for that matter).
21. Human Right?
Avi ,   New York   (02.03.13)
Listing two biological fathers is not a 'human right' unless one of the fathers actually gave birth. What if the ovum donor had illnesses that could be passed on? Shouldn't the biological mother be listed somewhere? Halachically the 'mother' who gives birth is the legal mother. Biology is science and scientifically the baby can have only one mother and one father -- and the child has a right to know who they are. If the birth mother is not Jewish the child will also need to undergo some form of conversion.
22. #8--"Yes the Torah may not agree".... That should be the end
of discussion.G-d ,   said it&he meant it.   (02.03.13)
23. Who set up the Family Structure?? Ok, it was Hashem. Are
they wiser then him? ,   Didn't think so.   (02.03.13)
24. REAL biological parents are: 1 gives actual birth, & the
other sits in the ,   waiting room!!   (02.03.13)
25. So here's the thing. I was adopted. The family I lived with
TEX   (02.03.13)
were not my biological parents. And guess what, when I got older, I found my biological family and went to live with them. I found my real parents were much better than the stand in ones!!
26. # 23 Please do tell me...
Moshino ,   Tel Aviv   (02.03.13)
As a G.od fearing, observant Jew that, as per the Ramak's suggestion (z"l) humbly tries to follow G.od's example in his perfect traits - one of them being mercy and compassion for our fellow Jews, I am intrigued by your statements. Would you mind telling me where exactly the Torah says two men cannot love each other? Where does the Torah say that only a man and a woman can bring up a child? Where does the Torah even say maybe two men cannot kiss each other for that matter? If you find the exact quotes, please post them. Thanks!
27. No10 god is a bad example for children
Gregg ,   Umbria Italy   (02.04.13)
A guy who created the sky and the stars.... Really?
28. #27 Well who do you think created it you moron?? Cosmic
dust? Really?? Go ,   jump in the river!!!   (02.05.13)
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