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Talks as response to UN hypocrisy
Yossi Shain
Published: 07.02.13, 00:02
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1. no peace
charles ,   phx, usa   (02.07.13)
When Israel repents of her unbelief and turns to Christ Jesus, the Prince of Peace, only then may they live in peace. Turn Israel...please turn to the Lord!
2. #1
Ram ,   London   (02.07.13)
"There shall be no other Lord but me". Which part of that did you not get? Jesus was a Jew, a Rabbi's son and most probably a Rabbi himself. For whatever qualities he may have had you chose him, a Jew, to be your god. Get over it!
3. Another Idiot Speaks
Bill Stein ,   USA   (02.07.13)
Another Idiot Speaks
4. Cloud man.
michael Pielet ,   israel   (02.07.13)
Yossi, get real. Get your head out of the clouds. No terrorist, iranian sponsored state in Judea and Samaria. We are not bringing Iran to the gates of Jerusalem or Gush Dan.
5. Thanks to Liberman Israel has little support internationly
Haim ,   TA   (02.07.13)
6. To: No. 1
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (02.07.13)
Stuff it, Charles. Your "prince of peace" has been responsible for more massacres, murders, death and wars than any religion in the world. And the deaths of approximately 300 million Jews. We're really not interested in your false, self-proclaimed "god." P.S. Newsflash: If you are G-d, you really don't need a son, do you? Especially not one that operates like three-in-one oil. I repeat: stuff it.
7. Charles: NO!
Isaac Galili ,   Israel   (02.07.13)
So what peace do you Christians offer us? The peace of the Inquisition? The peace of Auschwitz? The peace of the Crusades? Yours is a message of hate against Jews unchanged from Christianity's roots which have never been a message of love toward Jews. So NO!
8. Wow, what a wise article, but will anyone listen?
Michael ,   California, USA   (02.07.13)
Kol kore ba'midbar v'ein shomea. Maybe the writer of this article will apply for the job of the (future) Foreign Minister in place of the bouncer?
9. "..allow Jews to live under Palestinian rule" means 2 States
Steve Benassi ,   Silver Bay, MN USA   (02.07.13)
...1 Country, Palestine Israel.
10. Yossi Shain, your opinion is today is worthless.
Moshe ,   Usa   (02.07.13)
Israel alone must decide if we are going to populate Israel with Jews according to the decree of H-Shem and accept Israel as the national homeland of us Jews. Never make decisions based on opinions of other nation states as we did when we went to ask the opinion of caesar, before the italian romans came to defeat & dispurse Jews from Israel 2000 years ago.
11. Make concrete plans to pay "Palestinians" to leave.
Chaim ,   Israel   (02.07.13)
It is obvious to any child capable of reading a map that Israel would not last another decade if we allow the monstrous Two State Final Solution. Judea and Samaria belong to Israel and we're keeping them forever. Make concrete plans to pay "Palestinians" to leave our land forever. Most want to leave.
12. A good article, as ynet articles go, but skips step one
Li ,   USA   (02.07.13)
The basic underlying reality is that many Israelis do not want to negotiate with the Palestinians. The timely issue is that this is becoming obvious to more and more people, thus Israelis are losing credibility. The deep political reality which is clear to many people, is that the state of Israel will cease to exist without a Palestinian state. Rhetoric is nice, negotiate, promise, offer. But a smart Israeli already has one foot in Europe or America or Asia.
13. "occupation's problematic image"
Nina ,   NYC   (02.07.13)
Actually, you need to END the occupation, not fix its 'image'. You need to wrap your heads around the reality that not an inch of property is yours, therefore keeping it entails compensation, just like all privately owned properties within the green line will. And, no, you can't send the bill to us. Beyond the green line, you also owe rent for 45 years plus.
14. Israel does not need to prove anything!
Rachel ,   US   (02.07.13)
Abbas needs to prove he wants a settlement.
15. Professors
Robert Haymond ,   Tekoa, Israel   (02.07.13)
More professorial and academic pandering to the outcry against the legitimacy of our rights and needs for a state including our ancient homelands across the Green Line. Remember, the Green Line was nothing but a ceasefire line in 1949 and, again, in 1967. It was created in order to separate two armies, the Israeli and Jordanian, and was never considered a factor in establishing a border. Academic pandering while reputing "expertise" is par for the course in our universities which loves, above all, to appease rather than struggle with vigour. Professors like Yossi Shain are a dime a dozen.
16. The dream of another Arab state on Israeli soil must be put
tom ,   tel aviv   (02.07.13)
to sleep. NOW!
17. What about Meshaal's speeches?
Raphael ,   Netanya   (02.07.13)
If Israel complies with all the Pals'requirements, will their be peace? Only if they can also retain the refugees benefits without being refugees.
18. Too reasonable
Nilesk ,   Zw   (02.07.13)
Expect to be called a traitor.
19. 1
Gabriel ,   Leiden, Netherlands   (02.07.13)
Seeing that you posted your email adress on a public forum combined with the utter insanity of the message preceding said adress, sometimes makes me wonder if humanity isn't beyond redemption indeed. On a personal note, however, please know I am a Jew. I am a secular Jew, but a Jew nonetheless and determined to stay a Jew. Your message revulses me and I, and I take the utter audacity to speak on behalf of all Jews (if or not religious) frequenting these boards, that whe do not want your filth posted here. Go preach to the hoi-polloi of your own Evangelical comunity and leave us alone. On a second note, abstain from the former and bask in the glory of knowing that you made the world a better place by doing so.
20. #1 charles
solomon ,   bklyn   (02.07.13)
If you are telling us to convert because a more recent religion has displaced the old, then practice what you preach; become a Muslim.
21. TO MR. YOSSI SHAIN.
FO ,   Belgium   (02.07.13)
No necessity to remind us what the three judges led by Christine Chanet urged. The least I would have expected from you, as a professor dealing with diplomacy, was to mobilize your intelligence and your energy, and giving those three judges THE adequate reply. The adequate reply that confirms without any ambiguity that there is not one, I repeat NOT ONE article in International Law that prohibits Israel of "settling" in the so called "West Bank" and East Jerusalem, not even Article 49 of the Fourth Geneva Convention! Not only didn't you do that, but you adopted an attitude of submission and surrendering. Or, is it possible, that you, as a Professor of Diplomacy, are unaware of Israel's legal rights in International Law? Or worse, that you refuse to render daylight to these rights that were swept under the carpet about 90 years ago, for leftist ideological reasons, but remain recognized by the United Nations through Article 80 of its Charter? No, you prefer presenting Israel, as a culprit, sitting in the box in court. Are you aware Mr. Shain, that such behaviour made world opinion consider Israel as being a rogue state, joining Iran and North Korea?
22. To Ms. FO: For more "land" Belgium joined the Union.
Michael ,   California, USA   (02.07.13)
Why fight for land with 3.5 million Arabs on it? Why die for a bunch of stones? Israel can, theoretically, make a Union with Palestine and open all of its border crossings, like Belgium. Go ahead, if you are forced, fight it out for Belgium to have more land mass.
23. The UN Human Rights Council
ltrail ,   United States   (02.07.13)
At the outset, the UN Human Rights Council is a problematic group with an anti-Israel agenda. Blatently ignoring many human rights atrocities of muslim countries such as Sudan, Somalia, Syria, Libya, Afghanistan and Iran, it singles out Israel because it is the Jewish State. I will add Ms. Chanet of France to those holding a negative attitude of the State of Israel; as does Ms. Catherine Ashton. I hope that sooner than later, the USofA will cease to support the UN completely. That will cut the UN's support by 25%.
24. UNHRC
Cipora Julianna Kohn ,   Z   (02.07.13)
the UNHRC is an undemocratic, corrupt insititution that has no authority to determine borders, create states, settle disputes. all that the UNHRC can do is spew its venom on a regular basis at the jewish state of israel. the so-called settlements are not illegal since the territory of what is commonly referred to as the west bank, did not legitimately belong to any sovereign before israel established her authority subsequent to the six day war. israel will make no concessions to the arab palestinians as long as they refuse to recognise jewish historical ties to the land of israel, to the holy city of jerusalem, renounce the so-called right of return, and agree to put an end to the conflict permanently.
25. #13 Talk about owing rent
Tahl   (02.07.13)
We'll pay this "rent" as soon as you'll pay the rent you owe to the American Indians for holding a land over 1000 times as big, for nearly a two and a half centuries.
26. #13 nina
solomon ,   bklyn   (02.08.13)
You need to wrap your head around the reality that not an inch of property belongs to the arabs, who left at the behest of the invading arab armies in 1948. No compensation is due. They even have started claiming Jewish holy places as theirs: Rachel's tomb is a mosque? Abraham was a Muslim even though he was born thousands of years before Muhammad? Yea, right. Israel doesn't own the arabs anything; actually it's the other way round. They owe for all the wars they started. You want to end something? Fine. Have your "peaceful" friends END teaching their children that the best thing is to be killed while killing Jews. They owe for 64 years plus.
27. Israel Must Make it Clear
Chaim Ben Kahan ,   Efrat, Israel   (02.08.13)
All of the land on the West Bank is part of Israel. The Arabs are free to remain there and live as permanent residents with civil autonomy but must do so with the realization they are living in Israel. Israel has the moral high ground in this debate and has allowed it's righteous voice be drowned out by Arab propaganda.
28. To N 6, Mr's Sarah B
Luiz F Haddad ,   Niteroi, Brazil   (02.08.13)
Dear Mr's Sarah B. As a Christian, loyal friend of your people, I do repeal the comment of "N 1". I have talked, several times, about the awful crimes committed by our churches during past times against Jews. But Jesus Christ is not guilty, nor His doctrine, for the refered bad deeds. We may desagree on what He was and He is, but Our God is unique. "Holy Trinity", for us, is a sacred mistery. Our religions have a common Abrahamic origin. We must be united for a better world.
29. To N 7, Israel Galili
Luiz F Haddad ,   Niteroi, Brazil   (02.09.13)
As a Christian, true friend of Israel and Jewish people, I don't agree with "N 1". Past crimes, committed by our churches, were shameful. Nevertheless, it has been erased. Our God is Unique. We have to be united on the scope of a better future. You are our eldest brothers. Salutes.
30. I do support Israel, but I demand .......
Luiz F Haddad ,   Niteroi, Brazil   (02.09.13)
more respect for my Christian faith. Jesus did not have any guilt about terrible acts and omissions, commited by ignorant priests, bishops, ministers, even popes. We must get united, int the name of our same God.
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