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Netanyahu to Lapid: Haredim needed in gov't
Yuval Karni
Published: 07.02.13, 11:59
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31. @22. #16 - you've presented an ex falso quodlibet
Galut ia ,   Selah   (02.08.13)
my argument may be absurd - but in the eyes of God the actions and words of Governments are absurd.... the governing house of Israel is built on a presumed religious shell that currently is filled with secular people that are Jews in name only .
32. To nr 26 - You are the one who is twisting..
Alexander ,   Tel Aviv, Israel   (02.10.13)
...and turning. A US Constitution is only relevant when you are dealing with a citizenship based nation - not an ethnic nation state. I suggest you study the constitutions of several European states. There are explicit provisions for the ethnic and religious character of those states. An America style constitution applied to an ethnic nation state is a sure failure for that would eradicate the ethnic character. Do you want to destroy Israel as an ethnic nation state and turn Israel into a multi-cultural country for every ethnicity and religion? Well that could explain why you want to eradicate the Jewish national identity of Israel but neither I nor 6 million Jews in Israel will approve of that. And since you don't live in Israel and apparently you don't seem to like your own people and country (Israel) I suggest you keep your deluded ideas to yourself. If that's how you want to live your personal life - fine, but don't enforce your opinions on 6 million Jews/Israelis in Israel The US Constitution is definitely admirable but to suggest that you speak for all Jews and all Jews must think like you is quite arrogant. You keep your opinion to yourself. The US Constitution is applicable only in the USA - leave the Jewish people outside of the USA out of it. Please enligthen how I will be "crushed". How can religion "destroy" me? How exactly will this destruction take place? A religon is nothing but words and ideas. Judaism has been Israel's state religion for 64 years. Has Israel been destroyed? The writers of the US constitution are irrelevant in this case, because they were no Jews and they had no national Jewish homeland in mind - therefore your example is completely irrelevant. Who cares really what the US constitution says? Please explain in detail how my suggestion is "twisting" and "turning". Why is it not logically possible to protect and guarantee Judaism as a state religion but provide a clause that forbids is enforcement on people?
33. #26 uneducated comment + Haredim
Colorado ,   USA   (02.17.13)
#26: You don't understand US history at all, nor the Constitution. You are incorrect and there isn't time/space here to deal with it. As for the Haredim: again, Torah can continue to be most central, but they must become fully men. When scholarship is the ONLY thing valued within a society, then the society is out of balance. When others only take then they become robbers, thus violating Torah commandments. Thry become a society of thieves is in opposition to Torah. Man was told by Hashem "to guard and to tend" by their own hands, not through the theft of the work of other men's hands. The insular society of the Haredim is not allowing for the obedience of the whole man to Torah, and have locked men into slavery of collective theft. They can be shown that social value includes more than "study." We must set them free to be truly obedient.
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