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Report: Pope's resignation linked to probe into 'Vatican gay officials'
Published: 22.02.13, 11:57
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1. Poor old Benedict, who was the last 1 2 find out...
Gunnar ,   Gothenburg, Sweden   (02.22.13)
...that the only place where there are more gays than in in a Pride Parade, is his own Catholic Church. ' Course the rest of us already knew that.
2. abuse and vatican
afet ,   kualalumpur   (02.22.13)
4,000 cases of child sex abuse in the last 10 years...
3. I think the news report is wrong
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (02.22.13)
While there is no doubt that the Roman Catholic Church -- by its very structure -- has long been a safe haven for paedophiles and homosexuals (no, the two are not the same), I do believe that the resignation of the pope has more to do with impending scandals concerning -- yet again -- the Vatican Bank, and the pope's desire to see installed a new pope that will clean house in the Vatican Bank in Benedict's lifetime. It's been very scandal prone for a very long time. Paedophilia is no longer tolerated in society, and even the Roman Catholic Church simply hands over priests thus inclined to law enforcement officials and removes them from the priesthood. The world, thankfully, is coming to terms with homosexuality -- no, it isn't a bad thing; it's simply the way certain people -- certain very good people -- are inclined. This time, I believe it is the Vatican Bank. Do keep in mind that assets-wise, it is THE largest bank in the world. And, unlike major banking institutions throughout the world, it is not subject to external audit or oversight. Just to put things in perspective -- the Vatican Bank controls tens of quadrillions in cash assets. That's a lot of money.
4. gay men
john ,   toronto   (02.22.13)
The discovery of gay men does not affect the Pope . The pedophile in the church is a sin but no one quit for it. I am sure there are reasons for a Pope to quit which are covered. I hope those with authority can explain.
5. makes sense
Larry ,   Los Angeles   (02.22.13)
Although the priest take a vow not to have relations with a woman, it does not include other men (or boys). This will explain why there is so much problems with boy/child sex abuse in the church. By have sex with a boy/male they are not breaking their vows of chastity.
6. Where there is power there is corruption
Sagi   (02.22.13)
More so with religious power. The sole purpose of the Papal Institution is to wield power over millions of helpless and hapless beings. It is done in Catholicism on a magnitudinal scale, in Judaism the Haredim and the lesser fanatics have been trying for years to do the same thing, albeit on a lesser scale, with "Chief Rabbis" and the establishment of instituitions with government stamp and approval. They will fail in the end because these things are not compatible with an intelligent thinking people such as the Jews.We are not a "herd" to be led and controlled.
7. Commandments 6 and 7
Sherlock Holmes ,   London England   (02.22.13)
Assuming they use our numbering, the 6th and 7th Commandments prohibit murder and adultery. Their lifestyle also transgresses the Holiness Code in Leviticus, 18.22.
8. ??? Pous Dei and Legionaires of Christ ditched the old Kraut
miki ,   tampa   (02.22.13)
So now we will have an Arch-Conservative Italian like they wanted all along. Not Homosexuals and not pedophiles he did nothing against them remember? Just an old German who could not move fast enough to go back to medieval times.
9. Gays
Tribil ,   USA   (02.22.13)
I see you are changing God's law where it states man shall not lay with man and the same with women
10. #3 and #5
David ,   Haifa   (02.22.13)
Just for the record, not in a condemning way - the bible says that when a man lies with a man its sin before a Holy God. When a man has sex with a child, it is even worse, its not just a case of not breaking his vows of celibacy, it is a case of scarring and woulding an innocent child for life, unless God heals that child of it. It is a trauma to a child to be molested, and can ruin that person's life that was sinned against. All of these things are sin to a Holy God, that is why we need an atonement. No one can keep God's measure of Holiness. He provides our atonement through His own Son.
11. Catholics
john ,   toronto   (02.22.13)
What happens in the vatican does not affect Catholics who serve God. The church has taught well its worshippers how to practice faith .
12. Mama Mia
Alan ,   SA   (02.22.13)
Mamma mia, here I go again My my, how can I resist you? Mamma mia, does it show again? My my, just how much I've missed you Yes, I've been brokenhearted Crimson since the day we parted Why, why did I ever let you go? Mamma mia, now I really know, My my, I could never let you go.
13. not about the gays its about the MONEY....
Just Sayin' ,   Israel   (02.22.13)
and the way Istituto per le Opere di Religione (the Vatican Bank) is mismanaged Money Laundering is just the tip of the iceberg! There be large amounts of Nazi money in that bank!
14. Different Commandments...
Roy Dan ,   USA   (02.22.13)
Catholics conveniently group 1) Have no god before YHWH with 2) Make no idols to bow down to, both as their first commandment. They divide 10) Do not covet into their ninth to not covet another's wife and their tenth to not covet another's stuff. Therefore, their sixth and seventh commands are 7) Do not commit adultery and 8) Do not lie. The prohibition against graven images is off their radar...
15. Search on YouTube evil pope
gad   (02.22.13)
Search on YouTube evil pope
16. Correct Roy
andyprigge ,   ORANGEVILLE   (02.22.13)
The Catholics will do what the Catholics do pray to Mary and worship idols. But all of us at one point or another worship idols. Only through repentance can we free ourselves of this sin.
17. Celibacy
DovidHuntington ,   Huntington new York   (02.22.13)
Until the Catholic Church sheds the doctrine of celibacy for its clergy, only sexual miscreants will be attracted the the cloth. Celibacy is contrary to the gift God gave to humans which allows Love to be manifested physiologically thus supporting the emotional aspect of Love. How can a human be fully capable of imparting and understanding Love when his ability to express it has been denied institutionally? This is the great quandary of the Catholic Church that must be resolved in favor of humanity rather than spirituality if the Church is to survive.
18. To: Dovid at No. 17
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (02.22.13)
PLEASE tell me that you make the distinction between paedophiles and homosexuals. Paedophilia occurs both homosexually and heterosexually. Please don't lump in paedophiles with homosexuals. All paedophiles are criminals. Most homosexuals are quite normal.
19. Immunity
Devorah   (02.22.13)
The reports say the pope will be living in a monestary on vatis can grounds, and as long as he remains on that property, he is granted immunity and security. Maybe it is a coincidence but, if not, from what does he require immunity and security? On the other hand, If he does not require immunity and security, then why does he choose to stay there? I think it's possible that something is going on that is deeper than the ocean.
20. just let priests marry
israeli Paratrooper   (02.22.13)
all these problems would go away if priests were allowed to live like everyone else .
21. celibacy
john ,   toronto   (02.22.13)
Celibacy is not good for priests. They serve families so let priests also be family men. If men or women want to be celibates and serve God it is well , but then they must learn to aim for higher holiness not to please men, but God.
22. #7 sherlock
solomon ,   bklyn   (02.22.13)
The numbering is not the same. Christians cannot understand how the simple statement "I am the Lord, Thy G-d" is a commandment, so they lumped it with our second commandment "Thou shalt have no other gods before me." They make up for the 'missing commandment' by splitting our #10 (against coveting in general), into their #9 (against coveting of the flesh) and #10 (against coveting of things). There #6 and #7 are against adultery and stealing, respectively.
23. # 16 Andy Prigge Speak for yourself...
BUILD BABY BUILD ,   United States   (02.22.13)
No most of us do not bow down to idols. Those who bow fall into two camps ( that I'm aware of, maybe more ) Islam and Catholicism. Jews do not bow down!
24. # 17 Dovid And The Virgin Mary is still a virgin
BUILD BABY BUILD ,   United States   (02.22.13)
according to the Vatican. OY! The Roman Empire was replaced with the "Church." The "Emperor" is now the Pope ( which Jews are forbidden to call father ) the Cardinals, Bishops, took the place of the Senators and legislatures. You would have to look to Islam only for more violence and evil.
25. #20 Israeli paratrooper.
Walt K ,   Sherbrooke, Canada   (02.23.13)
Wrong ! Most of the paedophiles are married men with children. There is a truth : All the priests are not paedophiles, but must paedophiles would like to be priests and thus, to be a figure of authority for kids.
26. Sarah B - Quadrillions?
Lewis ,   USA   (02.22.13)
Quadrillions is a lot of cash. Is that measured in euros, dollars, or Iranian rials? Would be interested in a good source for your information.
27. Sarah B,
Walt K ,   Sherbrooke, Canada   (02.23.13)
You are so right. The Homosexuality is a preference and the paedophilia is a perversion. In mature sexuality there are two key words : 1) Adult 2) consent. and a boy or a girl is not qualified for the two criterions.
28. #24-& If U Look Up Who Created Islam U Will See Church'sWork
Gary LaBionda ,   Roma, Italia   (02.23.13)
moohammed's grandfather was catholic. look up how the roman church created islam
29. To: No. 26
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (02.24.13)
Dollars. Google "Roberto Calvi" and do your research from there.
30. To: No. 27
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (02.24.13)
You are so right. I have neighbors who are a homosexual couple, who have been together for twenty-two years. Each is a highly-regarded professional, very successful and prominent in their respective fields. Some years ago, they decided to adopt a child. They went to Russia, because it remains quite difficult for a homosexual couple to adopt a child in the United States. They took an unwanted child, born with a serious facial deformity, from a Russian orphanage. The child they brought back to the United States had the requisite surgery (I'm proud to report that it was performed by my husband), and there is only a tiny scar to show for it that no one even notices. They are responsible and loving parents. Their adopted child is a very well adjusted child who has a life that would not have been possible in Russia. They are good and caring neighbors -- who visited me every day following my cancer surgery. I could not ask for better neighbors or better friends. They are also consenting adults. I am loathe to look into the bedrooms of consenting adults. If you want perversion -- look elsewhere. Sadly, there is no shortage of abused children in the United States -- and most of that abuse is heterosexual in nature (surprise, surprise!). People should not be judged based on their sexual preference. As long as it involves adults and mutual consent, it is no one else's business.
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