Preparing for the fall of Jordan
Yoel Meltzer
Published: 24.02.13, 11:22
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1. The so called "Arab spring" is THE BEST
Chris Rettenmoser ,   Bayerisch Gmain Germ   (02.24.13)
opportunity since 1947, to solve that mess of a 2 state solution ONCE AND FOR ALL !!!!!!!!!!!!! HISTORY PUNISHES THOSE WHO DARE TO IGNORE IT >>>>>NOW IS THE TIME TO ACT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2. I refer to the last sentence
Sagi   (02.24.13)
"the natural aspirations of the Palestinians". The writer is correct in what should happen and most probably will happen. But he is wrong in thinking that this will solve the conflict. Their"natural aspirations" are for a Palestinian state from "sea to river and beyond", thus if Jordan falls and becomes Palestine they will see it, and immediately declare it, as the first step in the long struggle to free Palestine from the Zionists. They will never be satisfied with less. Anyone who thinks otherwise is under delusion.
3. East Bank
Raviv ,   Ramat Gan   (02.24.13)
I agree with the basic premise of the article. The Hashemite kingdom is a goner its only a matter of time, possibly within three to four years. This presents us with an opportunity. Israel should actively discuss the myth of "Palestinian" rights to Zion while at the same time try to create a link in the eyes of the international community between The East Bank and "Palestinians". We should start using these terms "East Bank".
4. land
john ,   toronto   (02.24.13)
If someone told me i will lose my land i would not agree to it. They were there before and they are part of the nation. Now it is up to the states to live in peace with each other.
5. A BEAR HUG FOR MR. MELTZER !!!!!!!!!!!
Chris Rettenmoser ,   Bayerisch Gmain Germ   (02.24.13)
YOU ARE SO RIGHT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
6. Finally a normal idea !
Istvan ,   BUDAPEST HUNGARY   (02.24.13)
But empty words are not enough. Instead a world financed project of Red Sea- Dead Sea pipeline, energy plant and desalination center must be realised. It is simply a question of money. If the project is constructed a huge fertile land, irrigated by desalinated sea water is ready for tens of thousands palestinian farmers. First only in the Aqaba area, later all north of Jordan. Israel must urge and help this project !
7. significant article
david ,   london   (02.24.13)
This article should be read by everyone! It looks at the larger picture facing Israel. The fall of the King of Jordan will be a great loss to Israel, but may swing the focus towards establishing Jordan as a Palestinian State in its own right. Hold on to your hats!!
8. Jordan aka palestine should not fall
2Mad ,   גולה בצרפת   (02.24.13)
As Jordan covers 3/4 of historical palestine, there's one logical solution, and it's a win/win deal : As soon the riots begins, Abdullah should ask Saudi's for assistance. They'll backflip and respond - you're on your own. Next, he should ask EU and bobama, so they can wash their hands too. Finally, he should ink a deal with Israel : All the support, logistic and every non-lethal gear needed to control the riots and apprehend the culprits and infiltrators - in exchange for receiving the "refoogees" and granting them full Jordan citizenship, as long as they settle east of Mafraq. Resulting stability will lead to increased economic cooperation, make truly flourish the desert, and any meddling form outside would be rightfully exposed as an act of war (remember Libya). There may be some details to polish, but as a whole - I can't see why this wouldn't work. Hag Purim Sameah !
9. what a pathetic excuse for an article - get a life, Meltzer
PZ   (02.24.13)
11. Some people are starting to see the light
Joshua ,   USA   (02.24.13)
While I agree with the premise of this article 100%, this idea was already floated by the late Yigal Alon in the 70s. The premise was pretty much the same but back than there was no so called "Arab Spring" to start the process rolling. As soon as this happens, the East Bank may be connected to "Jordan" (AKA Palestine) as some sort of a demilitarized zone and the "Palestinians" will have less or no leg to stand on in their relentless pursuit for anihilating Israel. Israel should not be the cowards they are afraid of promoting this solution. A country with 70% of the population so called Palestinians can only be called Palestine. It is long overdue that Israel stops the abomination called 2 states solution and call a spade "A Spade".
12. Creation of Jordan was worst crime of all.
BUTSeriousy ,   Sydney   (02.24.13)
Britain corrupted the Balfour Mandate when it created the 23rd fictitious regime of Jordan in the land allocated for 'only only Jewish state'. This was followed by Britain's White Paper which was the substantial cause of the Holocaust. Britain today calls a 3-state in the same land as a 2-state and fostered the transfer of the name Palestinian from Jews to Muslims when Arafat emerged. These are terrible crimes, yet Britain walks whistling.
13. Rubbish.
Jules   (02.24.13)
If the king falls, a regime similar to HAMAS will be established all over Jordan. Israel has already had a hell of a lot of trouble with the local "Palestinians" (HAMAS and PLO). But at the moment they occupy miserable territories, compared to what they would have if a "Palestinian state", especially under M.B. is established in Jordan.
14. King Abdullah has been HUGE supporter of Palestinian cause.
Steve   (02.24.13)
No doubt, Abdullah will be eager to satisfy the national aspirations of the Palestinians for statehood in Jordan.
15. When the king falls
Palestinian ,   Amman Jordan   (02.24.13)
Trust me sir we have had enough and we are eager to see the king falling and Israel re-taking the West Bank, as we have had enough with both the Hashemites and the PA and if worst comes to worst, I hope Israel will occupy Jordan too as long as we get rid of the king
16. To nr 3.
Istvan ,   BUDAPEST HUNGARY   (02.24.13)
I agree. If once east and west Germany united, north and south Vietnam too, why not to unite the west bank with the east bank ?
17. got a soft landing prepared for him
Bluegrass Picker ,   Afula   (02.24.13)
he can walk right into the Honorary Presidency of the Jordanian American Association, on Linden Avenue in South San Francisco (San Mateo County). Lovely community of small shopkeepers who keep the wheels of commerce running. The mexican-americans are sweethearts, & have better looking daughters, but those folks are hewers of wood & carriers of water. Jordanians are able to balance a checkbook.
18. If the king falls
David Segal ,   Philadelphia, USA   (02.24.13)
Who gets his air force?
19. The coming herd thinning
BUILD BABY BUILD ,   United States   (02.24.13)
that comes with the Muslim Brotherhood's 'elections' or overthrows can't be ALL bad. Morsi helped prove the point that even Egypt isn't willing to bow herself down to this maniac dictator who, like the rest of these would be Pharaohs, demands ultimate power from the people, bow down to me or die. The civll wars, famine, poverty, loss, pain and deaths, tourism, etc. that follows these conflicts can never be made up.
20. Jordan is Palestine
Brod ,   USA   (02.24.13)
Seventy percent of the people in Jordan are Palestinians. They should all move to Jordan which is their country. Israel should say NO to letting them usurp a large swath of the Land of Israel for them. Two thousand six hundred years ago, GOD promised the Children of Israel through His Prophets that He would bring the them from Diaspora back to their Historic and Biblical Homeland-Land of Israel and make the desolate land bloom again. This Prophecy was fulfilled in the 20th century. READ: Jeremiah 31:10 Jeremiah 32:37-41 Jeremiah 32:44 Ezekiel 37:15-23 Ezekiel 20:34 Ezekiel 36:33-35 Isaiah 35:1-2 Isaiah 51:3 Amos 9:11,13 Zechariah 8:12
21.  Jordan is Palestine II
jsm   (02.24.13)
Turn a chunk (small) of the west bank over to Jordan. Send all non-citizen Arabs there or to Gaza AND WAIT.
22. Countdown for Jordan's Hashemites
Abdel Karim Salim ,   Jerusalem   (02.24.13)
The Hashemite monarchy in Jordan has certainly overstayed its welcome, and the brutal suppression Jordan's kings have been using to maintain their throne no longer works in the 21st century , the age of the Internet . At this juncture I see the best opportunity to replace the Hashemite monarchy in Jordan with a republican system that would include East and West banks of The River ( and Gaza Strip too ) but with keeping both the West Bank and the Gaza demilitarized , and to make the presidency of that republic rotating between East Jordanians and Palestinians once every two terms...
23. Britain already did that
Madeleine ,   Israel   (02.24.13)
Maybe the news is late in getting out, but the British establilshed a Palestinian state in the 1920s. All of eastern palestine, i.e all the land east of the Jordan river, was designated by the British as a Jew-free state for the Palestinian Arabs. Everything west of the Jordan river was the Jewish homeland and that included judea and Shomron, which was never Arab land. Of course this was conquored and occupied by the Jordanians from 1948-67 when we liberated it. this is h isstorical fact not israeli delusion so why don't those palis just shut up and try and govern what they have got now.
24. Jordan
ady ,   ruse,bulgaria   (02.24.13)
What about the rights of the old,autochtonous population? the jordanians,badawi or not? A new,acceoted and tolerated population takes the power,crushing,politically the old one...sounds familiat,innit?
25. Dream, little Yoel, Dream !
Abou Fayez ,   Brussels   (02.24.13)
Old ideas do not make new policies. Every single Israeli leader ever since the 1940s has tried this. It simply doesn’t work. You can’t expel people from their land (1948 ethnic cleansing of Palestinians by Israel), prevent them from returning to their homes as demanded, tens of times by UN resolutions, and expect them to topple the king of Jordan where they settled, to realize your dreams of total Palestine. Palestine is Palestine, Jordan (however artificial, colonial product, like Israel), is Jordan.
26. Jordan/Palestine
Son Of Cyrus ,   UK   (02.24.13)
We all know Jordan is a British invention & is currently superfluous. We also know that there is no way the arabs can or will be able to dismantle or divide up the State Of Israel to make room for another state called Palestine. It is high time to realize that either there will be total war or a Palestinian State to be established instead of Jordan plus some highlt arab populated currently under the control of Israel/PA. The arabs have to accept the Jewish State if they want peace & learn to respect other cultures, religions & way of life other that Islamic/Arab way of life.
27. #2 Agree with your assertion
Get Real ,   UK   (02.24.13)
The establishment of a Palestinian state in Jordan would be a state 'hosting' terrorist entities similar to Hamas and Hezbollah.Their ultimate aim being the complete destruction of the Jewish state and its incorporation into a 'Greater Palestine'
28. Dream, little About, Dream!
DavidR ,   USA   (02.24.13)
Jordan is Israel! Go back to the house of saud you arabs!
29. I fear for King Abdullah and his family, but the good
Rivkah   (02.25.13)
news is that Jordan will not come under the control of the AntiChrist who could be Nasrallah or Ergodan or Putin or BHO. He is safe from that. But his family is in great danger unless they enter God's Rest by doing things that please Yahweh-Yehoshua such as not buying or selling food or wares or working except to do good or what is needful from sundown Friday to sundown Saturday. He must eat a clean foods Moses diet and believe in Yehoshua as the Messiah who died for the sins of mankind and rose again.
30. king husseins son is palestinian
Jordan is ,   Palestine   (02.25.13)
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