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Ariel students not invited to Obama speech
Tzvika Brot
Published: 13.03.13, 12:45
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1. Their reactions proved Obama was right
Ted   (03.13.13)
Childish protest over this? And these are university students. Obama does not need to meet with people that do not represent the good in Israel.
2. Why the surprise? Settlement activity illegal.
Mark ,   Cleveland USA   (03.13.13)
Just because Israelis decide to expand Jewish control on the West Bank unilaterally doesn't mean that the US accepts the new bounderies. The whole world, including the US agrees that settlements are illigal. The only group who disagrees is Israel. Wake up and smell the coffee. That University may one day be inside of a Palestinian State.
3. No university students with any pride in themselves
A ,   Belgium   (03.13.13)
and their country should attend Oblablas' B.S. session, but they should be on hand to protest in solidarity with Ariel University.
4. I would consider it an honor...
Steve   (03.13.13)
...not to be invited to Barack H. Obama's speech.
5. Measure for measure
Heshy ,   Brooklyn NY   (03.13.13)
The party of Bennets bayit yehudi excluded the Torah party's from the government, now the Al-mighty excludes the settlers university from Americas presidents speech. Measure for measure. Just as Egypt tried to drown Israelites, they got drowned. Don't mess with the Torah students. No Torah no Israel. Remember that.
6. WHO wants to hear that MORON ???????
Chris Rettenmoser ,   Bayerisch Gmain Germ   (03.13.13)
7. U crowned yourselvesas a University-nobody believes but you
miki ,   tampa   (03.13.13)
8. Boycott Obama!
albert snow ,   sweden   (03.13.13)
I think all invited universities should solidarize with the Ariel university and boycott the Obama speach. Let Obama talk to empty chairs!!
9. wow obama chose his apointments
ghostq   (03.13.13)
based on place of birth. an irony, indeed.
10. Heshy- settlers are Torah followers and your claim HareTorah
Nehama ,   Jerusalem   (03.13.13)
Heshy this is reply to you- living in judea Samaria is not against Torah law but approved by Torah. Beit El and shchem altars built by Abraham & Jacob and settled by them. I can't think of an area in Israel more tied to us as a people than Judaea /Samaria with exception of jerusakem which was added only during time of King David. Haredim are not more close to Torah than settler Jews and resent your point which makes no sense. The dati Leumi religious Zionist groups serve army and attend universities while studying Torah at same time while Haredim claim to study Torah alone. No where in Torah is a Jew told to only study and not defend his land and learn a profession. The Rambam and all previous generations of Jews always worked for living and unfortunately never had privelege to defend their land since we were stateless. It is an honor to serve the Israeli army and am ashamed of your comments as a Jew. The hesder yeshiva men of dati leumi who combine Torah study and army are the true Torah ideal while your statements are that of an ignorant man. I get impression you live in USA. Do all of us in Israel a favor and stay where you are.
11. what visit?
israel israeli ,   tel aviv   (03.13.13)
It is increasingly clear that Obama is not really visiting Israel. He has refused to address the Knesset, a grave diplomatic insult. About half his time will be spent in areas controlled by the Fatah terror organization. It comes down to Obama using Israel's airport because of its superior security arrangements to visit his friend Holocaust denier Abbas.
12. re: #2
albert snow ,   sweden   (03.13.13)
Your´r totaly wrong. The settlements are not illegal because they are all in the Israels admintrative area C. And regarding to the Olso agreements made with the palestinians, Israel has the fully judicial rights in that area, which means Israel has the right to bulid wherever they want and how much they want.
13. you r wrong. arabs are illegal squatters. this is israeli
ralph   (03.13.13)
lands. study history. but if you also subscribe to the pin cushion theory of history - namely that last one there is the right one - then israelis' using this theory win again. so chose which theory history or pin cushion theory. but either way israeli land. otherwise you are an ugly racist anti-semite pig.
14. #2 what is "illegal"?
israel israeli ,   tel aviv   (03.13.13)
Some people say that "settlement activity is illegal" but they can never point out any law that says so. In contrast "double tap" droning: deliberately targeting medics and non-combatants is a war crime. "Fast and Furious" supplying criminal organizations with weapons is a crime. Interpreting a "no fly zone" as a mandate to bomb ground targets is a crime. Just be honest and say you are against Israel. Don't fluff it up with fantasy "legal arguments", certainly not when your own record is really bad.
15. Obama, yesterday's man
Norbus ,   jERUSALEM   (03.13.13)
Obama never did deliver what he said he could do. His reverse Midas syndrome setting Arab Spring alight , created havoc and misery , then he runs away not knowing what to do. Abandoned Iraq to Iran, allowed Iran to get close to nuclear , impotent where North Korea is concerned, and walking away from Afghanistan Benghazi down to his incompetence and now he wants a cheap score at Our cost. No thanks Mr President Jews here would never vote for the likes of you
16. Breckenridge Long lives in the US Embassy Jerusalem
ghilmeini ,   AMereekah   (03.13.13)
They will say they are not anti-semites but the state department is and always will be israel's enemy. There is one embassy in Israel and 57 Islamic countries with another 20 European posts that will shortly be islamic. Ergo- if you like israel, your career at state is over. Just as Breckenridge Long prevented any saving of Europe's Jews and his successors opposed Israel's creation, his heirs at State work to destroy Israel. Its nothing personal- between antisemitism and careerism (look where it has taken John Brennan) kow tow to the Islamic world and make yourself rich or stick it to the Jews. Stay strong Israel, you were created to defend out people but start fighting the real fight- our dignity as a unique people with a unique heritage and an inalienable right to our homeland. We are called un-natural and alien, but look at the complete and utter disintegration of the modern Arab societies, the lines on the maps mean nothing, who are these fools to tell us what our borders are when the borders they proclaim implode before their eyes?
17. Haredim vs Settlers
Nehama ,   Jerusalem   (03.13.13)
I noticed lots spelling errors in previous comment of mine due to having young newborn and quite busy.I want to make further point that Haredi comments against settlers are bizarre for a Jew to make since Judea Samaria are where our forefathers made first altars to god and settled. It's heart of our people. The Haredim who attack the dati Leumi crowd need to take responsibility for their flawed ideology which started with beginning of state when PM Ben Gurion allowed Haredim exemptions. This situation never existed before 1948 in large numbers and was foreign concept that a Jew does not provide for his family. The great Rambam clearly said a Jew must work to provide. The Torah filled with brave men who defended land via army and have no clue how any man can defend position to not serve. I hope not too many American Jews hold view of Heshy. Imagine if all Jewish men did not serve army. Who would defend us? The Rabbis of Hazal said you must not rely on miracles - לא סומכים על נס which is why this refusal to serve is ridiculous. It's pure selfishness and laziness not to share burden. I am so sickened by comments like Heshy.
18. tit-for-tat
Michael ,   Haifa   (03.13.13)
Just as promoting a third rate college to the status of a University in the illegally occupied settlement of Ariel was a poke in the eye to Obama, he is merely returning the insult.
19. 2 Mark
alsky ,   toronto   (03.13.13)
silly boy. Nothing illegal, since west bank was never sovereign nation. all perfectly legal ! Now stop waching those lefty news sources
20. #2
Harold ,   USA   (03.13.13)
Very true. They are in occupied Palestinian lands and are not considered Israelis by International Laws.
21. #1 You do not represent anyone. #2 Wrong
deavman ,   Acco, Israel   (03.13.13)
Students are students. They will go wherever they will get an education. Today in the West Bank, tomorrow somewhere else. They don't make the decision to build universities. I believe all students from TA to Jerusalem should show solidarity and protest the stupid decision, another notch into Obama's repeated attempts of appeasement, something that will ultimately blow up in America's bosom.
22. #5 = Pure Tosh Heshy
Norbus ,   Jerusalem   (03.13.13)
When Chareidim lot learn Torah, they do not live it, but use it artfully That, boy. is chillul Students should ALL boycot Obama
23. #5
(03.13.13)
Instead of bitul torah posting on the Internet, start studying. Maybe start with hilchot sinat hinam.
24. All students must not attend obummah's speaches.
Moshe ,   Usa   (03.13.13)
So, the USA is going to reduce payments to Israel, but keep paying terrorist & mooslum dictatorships such as pallyshtein & ejypt ? Why do you let obummah come to Israel. Tell him, Israel will need more $ to protect him while he is there on vacation. And wait the 4 years until he is out of office & then resume relations with the USA if they have appropriate leadership.
25. Ariel Students
Jason ,   New York   (03.13.13)
Ariel students you are not missing anything believe me. US here in the USA are tired of hearing his big BS speeches about how is the best thing since sliced bread. It is better to ignore this fraud.
26. A perfect example
Gee ,   Zikron Yaakov   (03.13.13)
Of apartheid in Israel - students banned because of the university they attend. The US would never ban any student from Birzeit or Al-Quds even though a large percentage of them are terrorists. But Jews from Ariel are acceptable targets because the West knows that no act of violence will happen because of their insult. Which can never be said about Muslims and insults
27. The most divisive president of the USA
Shaul R ,   USA   (03.13.13)
is coming to do his 'magic' in Israel. I hope Israeli students will be smart enough to see through this cynical manipulation and will ALL boycott Obama's BS speech.
28. Good move
Giora Me'ir ,   USA   (03.13.13)
Ariel is the most objectionable of all the settlements, at least on geographic grounds.
29. Obama wants to preach to the converted
Zev ,   Israel   (03.13.13)
Instead of trying to convince those that do not agree with him he wants to preach only to those that agree with him.
30. Simple answer! Not invited because of ILLEGAL SETTLEMENT
Carlos ,   Mexico   (03.13.13)
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