one knows from which side the wind blows. After opening the article and seeing Eitan Haber's name, one doesn't need to read it to know what it's tenure is! In Ben Gurion's time all was good, in Rabin's time all was great and in Bibi's time all is bad! The only 'smart sentence from his article was the last one! He should take his own advice and stop giving the Israeli leaders of today his outdated opinion.

This lady is like Senator Catilina.. Delenda Cartago.. Always the same talk about antisemitism, about the Armenian genocide, about the Kurds.. Hello.. crazy lady, all them, Armenians, Kurds support Turkey in its standing towards israel. Get real. Hello... we receive 31 million tourists a year.. Israel gets 2 million. Further more people know that we are a decent, normal country much more than the Israel' standard in the world. Hello... Stop humiliating and victimizing yourself. Grow up, learn to behave in a civilized way with your mistakes as we, Turks, learnt from our errors. You are not that smart, aren' t you, Lady?

Haber has become a joke ever since the assasination of Rabin. He'd root for Bin-Laden if Bibi was fighting the other corner.

This is why I only write the truth. And as you said it in 1974 the Greeks did not fire a single bullet and yet a Turkish destroyer was destroyed by the Turkish Air Force (I heard all details from both Navy and AF officers since in 1977 they were sharing the same headquarters building) You have a new found - false - over confidence based on some financial situation and you keep on roaring to Israel which is your best friend in the region. Wake up. All this economic prosperity in Turkey is thanks to Israel's hard work to convince USA to lift the1974 embargo. I should have asked you: Why do you hate Israel that much? Israel was never nankor to Turkey. Always has been a loyal friend until Erdogan.

Which city are you from today Isimir or Ancara? Anyway, Armenians are getting ready to support Turkey in a very big way in 2 years. As the day approaches Turkey will regret that there is no Israeli lobby supporting them to prevent that from happening but you will soon see the events to commemorate 100 years anniversary after 1914-1015. As for Kurts, they must be very happy since soon they will carve out south east of Turkey as an independent Kurdish federated state and later totally independent country where Abdullah Ocalan will be the president.

Yes, Israel has quality. Look at the Gilad Shalit's honest interview and interrogation. This is quality par excellence !. And who was that idiot who sent 6 "pitiful' soldiers against a boatload of activists, with paintball guns ?? I would send such a commander to jail for neligence or demotion for idiocy!! Yes- we have high levels of quality !

Mistakes are part of the job. Today few countries have an IFF. We have national IFF (Identification Friend and Foe) Mod 5/S" NATO-standard system by Aselsan. For your second paragraph, Unfortunately I agree totally with you. Regards. İyi Cumalar & Shabbat Shalom.

Erdrogan grew up with contempt for Jews, and when Jews refuse to behave in the submissive way he expects, he goes insane. "Smart" Haber nothing could be worse then reinforcing his prejudices. His appetite will only grow.Stupid article. Do you get paid for this? litvac120

Harri, In Lebanon and most other Arab states everyone is fully in touch with " reality", which is why they are doing so well. Harri, what universe are you from? The Arab would is falling apart, while Israel is doing well, and yet you presume to lecture Israel onpolicies. Litvac120

"Don't mess with Turkey". It's Turkey that is sticking it's nose where it does not belong, hoping for revival of Ottoman Empire. Turkey with it's history should not throw stones, since it lives in a "Glass House". litvac120

You mean hungry sheepherders equipped with old English muskets and moving on donkeys ;) ,... Vietnam was lost by politicians not by the soldiers ,...

All comments here clearly demonstrate arrogance. If you expect respect, you must show respect to everybody.. most of you have preconceived notion and/or limited understanding of facts about Turkey, and relations between Turkey and Israel. You make general statements, draws conclusions without analyzing past and current situation. Have you ever ask yourself how was the commercial relation between two countries in last 3-4 years ?

with Israel.It called Israel a state sponsor of terrorism.Pretty funny coming from turks who slaughtered Armenians,persecuted Kurds and invaded Cyprus.But to some in Israel they forget 2004 because they are gluttons for abuse

And I agree with you. However is it respectful to display the billboards boasting about the Israeli statement of regret over Amani Marmara? After receiving that apology posting those billboards is a blatant act of trying to humiliate Israel and this is disrespectful. After such an act you can not expect Israelis Jews to respect Turks. Respect works two ways. When you learn to respect others only then you can expect respect in return.

I agree with you that there are some idiots who still try to to humiliate Israel ( I didn't say Jews ) and posting stupid billboards, because new elections are coming soon and they try to flatter ministers.. It is clear that this is related to dirty politicians not Turkish people.

But countries do not seek love. Between countries and their leaders there are only interests.... It has been said that "it is not always beneficial to be right, but it is always important to be smart." .... -reply: ok lets say Netanyhu dont love that much the Erdogan, and Israeli citizens dont love Turkey. So why is Israel interested to apoligize? do you think is correct that the israeli press likes to show off were israelis go for vacatations? this week was published in the newspaper than more than half million israelis choose Turkey to do some turism during 2008-09. Considering the security aspects, it is not always beneficial for Israel to be snob or to do show off in the press saying where israelis spend vacations,

As you said there are some idiots (yalaka as you call them) but the problem is that hey are at least 50% if not ore of he population. They are highjacking the freedoms and futures of the rest modern Ataturk following Turks also. Even someone like Sipahi who posts here would close his eyes to the atrocities that AKP government is responsible for such as Silivri prisoners, or the uncalled for language used by Erdogan against Israel. In fact while Sipahi accused me for hating Turkey the truth is that in 1980 ies and early 1990ies I spent lots of my time with the Turkish youth association called ATA in NY lobbying for the lifting of the US embargo and promoting some other Turkish interests. Maybe Sipahi can now understand how betrayed i may be feeling since AKP.

its funny you should talk about respect as you know respect is not given, it must be earned why would turks respect jews when they tried to humiliate turkish nation not erdoğan not davutoglu but the ambassador of repuclic of turkey? it was an act toward whole nation, that day you have lost all trust and respect of turks wheter you admit or not you have killed 9 turks pinned medal on soldiers who killed em, organized low chair stunt with clear intentions explained by ayalon to tv reporters now you want erdoğan to show respect ? he is a politician, billboards was childish but dont expect anygoodwill from him since he and all turks know you didint even mean the apology :)

#58. First of all. Have the decency and dignity not to misuse the name of a good Israeli patriot to post your mind numbing rubbish. Israel "occupies" her own more than 3,500 year old ancestral heartland. Israel's claim to Judea and Samaria is legally incontrovertible. Countless international law experts have proven it. Even the terrorist P.A. refuses to publicly debate the issue; as MK Danny Ayalon has challenged them to.

Josh, you write the most obvious garbage. Man for man, the IDF is almost certainly the best army in human history. Despite its relatively small size, many military experts rate the IDF as one of the top 5 armies in the world today.

I think it is a very realistic Article contains also many irony and balanced comments. Haber is not only criticising Israel but Turkish Part ! Haber your ar a good journalist telling the truth ...Congrs from Istanbul

More than 50 % of population voted for them and this doesn't mean that 50 % of population hates Israel & Jews. Among 50 % there are liberals, armenians, jews, kurds and even atheists supporting them. I don't care about ATA association and Ataturk. You know most of europe is being governed by monarcy but they are more democratic countries. What people want is democracy NOT Ataturk's 100 years old obsolete principles and bogus ''revolutions''. What his supporters today want for our country look like what Assad wants his own country. '' yes for secularism yes for homogen society but no democracy no pluralism no different culture no different language '' Silivri Prison is full of coup leaders and soldiers who pretend to be superiour to people's volition. Nowadays they discovered term of ''democracy'' but couldn't think of it, when they were in power as deep state in last 100 years and when prisons were full of kurds because of constitution.. Please note that existing government is very appreciated by EU due to its reforms.

the real test of haber's thesis would be if an israeli group were to organize a "protest flotilla" and physically resist a naval boarding party demanding to stop the ship for inspection. no self-respecting country would accept a violation of a legal blockade, and if the ship refused to stop, would have resorted to lethal force, and not to silly paintball guns. no one in their right minds would expect the united states coast guard to allow a ship pass that had expressly declared its intentions to run contraband through its waters. and anyone making that mistake with the turkish navy would probably be on the bottom of the mediterranean, with no warning shots. requiring israel to apologize for carrying out a legitimate stop and seizure of a ship with a clearly declared intention to knowingly run a blockade ONLY makes sense if you accept the idea that some people are more equal than others, i.e. the concept of dhimmitude. because only a dhimmi needs to apologize for successfully defending himself, and thereby causing "humiliation" of the moslem who failed to kill him. haber is nothing more than a dhimmi, siding with the enemy against his fellow countrymen.

Turkey has enough space for a Demiltirized Palestian Islamic state of 8000 square miles if the will is there.it will be part of a califate of Islamic Peoples.the Jews then small in number and size can create a mass survivalist fortress and retaliate against attackers.

Actually, pinhead, I am talking about Ghurka-trained troops from Iraq and Egypt, British-trained (by General John Glubb) troops from Jordan, and French-trained troops from Lebanon and Syria, with units of the French Foreign Legion attached. We know you are an idiot. You no longer have to keep on proving it to us.

Oh, I assure you that Israel can stop Arab boys with rocks. In a hurry. But you probably wouldn't like the means and -- quite frankly -- neither would we. The better option is to resurrect the old policy of destroying the homes of everyone caught throwing rocks. Since entire dynasties live in one home, having to explain to your family why seventy people are now homeless probably wouldn't be terribly popular. But it is highly effective. You can laugh all you want at what you characterize as Israel's "tiny, pathetic Military [sic]." How would you characterize the fact that the full faith and credit of the armed forces of the United States of America were defeated by a handful of barefoot warlords using vintage World War I Garand rifles and a few rusty RPG launchers in Somalia? The U.S. hasn't fared all that well in Iraq, Afghanistan, Waziristan, Yemen and Libya, either. You couldn't even beat tiny poorly armed men wearing black pajamas. Better stick to the banana republics, Joshie -- Grenada and Panama. Those are tailor-made for great American "victories" (chuckle).

I don't think that the Armenians and the Kurds consider Turks to be particularly civilized. For that matter, neither do I. The question is not how many tourists visit Turkey in any given year ... how many are there on repeat visits? The number drops to several hundred.

Respect is earned not given but also let me add that it is mutual. Now why should Israelis respect Turks when after an apology Erdogan's Yalaka mayor I. Melih Gokcek decorated the city with those billboards? On the other hand AKP could have acted in a better way in that case to sincerely start a new chapter in relations. After all in 1972 PM Ecevit who had stopped relations with Israel after the brutal kidnapping and murder of Israeli ambassador Efraim Elrom he was able to establish a very good relations with Israel during his last term as PM before he died. Now this is god statesmanship while Erdogan's is Kasimpasali kabadayilik. Even if the apology was not very sincere it could have been a start to a change but under AKP it is impossible. For them personal pride is more important then the interest of the nation. And PRIDE as yo may know is one of the 7 deadly sins.

The people in Silivri were put there with no substantial charges. All bogus and fabricated evidence that has been proven by Tubitak and other organizations to be false. For example some of the evidence documents that were created with a new version of MS Word did not even exist at the time the document was written. Some of the street names mentioned did not exist at the time. What is happening in Silivri is a group of ultra Islamist lynch mob lynching some of the most valuable Turks such as Surgeon Ahmet Haberal who is very higly respected around the world and Harvard University as a pioneer of organ transplants. He saved many peoples lives as a surgeon. Today there are more journalists in Turkey of 70 million population then China with 1 Billion population. Turkey is listed as one of the worst human rights abuser in the world. EU is criticizing AKP for passing laws on the paper but not practicing them The proof is in Silivri. And finally: Say whatever you say but only today in Hurriyet ther was an article stating that US secretary of state Hagel has great respect for Ataturk.

I was not surprised your wordings regarding Silivri prison. You forgot to mention that their followers updated all related documents. Mehmet Haberal can be famous doctor but It doesn't mean that he is untouchable. BTW, If you want, You can find European Court of Human Rights 's decision on Balyoz Coup.. Mr. Hagel can have some good opinion about Ataturk but it doesn't change the fact that he is a leader who can be only compared with Mussolini and Hitler. If you want to get detail information about his a few practices you can search following keywords ''dersim massacre'' / ''Sheikh Said rebellion'' .. You know he was originally from Union and Progress Party (U & P Party) in Ottoman Empire and you can also ask Armenians' in NY for advice.