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Obama still can't be trusted
Shoula Romano Horing
Published: 30.03.13, 15:13
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1. Obama's Israel visit
Henry Tobias ,   Maale Adumim, Israel   (03.30.13)
I may be "isolated, unaccepted, hated in my neighborhood condemned and boycotted" but I'm still alive. If I have Hamas as my neighbour I might not be.
2. Opinion piece on Obama
Mark Stave ,   United States   (03.30.13)
Why does this author fill the piece with leading questions that cherry pick facts and urge the reader to be afraid. What does the author gain? Why is there no mention of how the author makes a living? Is it because the author makes money through the creation of fear and anger? Is the author really playing to fear and hatred for personal political gain? Should the readers trust the author or their own (easily done, takes about an hour) review of primary sources? What a disgusting piece of writing.
3. Never,ever trust Obama. Never, never!
Alan ,   SA   (03.30.13)
4.  Israel,peace,obama
carolyn rose ,   Mcalester,Ok   (03.30.13)
Thank You Shoula. At least one person in Israel gets it....
5. Mr. Obama is a snake in the grass and not to be trusted....
Noodles ,   Coney Island   (03.30.13)
and I'm painting the most optimistic picture possible.
6. Indeed, the very fact that Mr. Obama chose to address us,
Jehudah Ben-Israel ,   Qatzrin, Israel   (03.30.13)
the Jews of Israel, as though we initiated the war-of-attrition-through-terror that commenced in April 1920 and is yet to cease, and as though we perpetuated it; as though we initiated the full scale wars designed to bring about Israel's demise, e.g. 1948, 1967, 1973. Mr. Obama should know better by now, more than four years into his presidency, that the essence of the conflict is the categorical objection by the Muslim-Arabs - no, not by the Christian-Arabs or the Durze-Arabs, mind you!! - to Israel's very independent existence on ANY parcel of land of the Jewish people's ancestral homeland. And, it is the Muslim-Arabs who should be scolded and demanded to call upon their leaders to accept Israel's RIGHT to be, to exist as the SOVEREIGN NATION-STATE OF THE JEWISH PEOPLE.
7. This is ridiculous
Alex ,   USA   (03.30.13)
First of all, the conspiracy claims about Chuck Hagel have been widely disproven (and in fact originated form a journalist's joking and SARCASTIC comments. But the overall point is that this is paranoid and delusional. Obama and the US only want peace and a strong Israel in the region. It's in our national interests. Yes, we understand, there are many groups like Hamas and many Palestinians who want your destruction. Welcome to reality. The question is what to do about it--and you can either further isolate yourselves from the world, or recognize that the only way to stay a Jewish democracy--an incredible achievement and a model state to the entire region, and even the world--is to take concrete steps towards establishing two states. Plus, strategically thinking, if you do this, and then experience violent aggression from a Palestinian state, you will have the world's support for your subsequent response. But indefinite occupation and continued settlement building will get you nowhere. It's time to put aside the right wing rhetoric and think about this logically. And logically, being paranoid about the intentions of your greatest friend and ally in the world is completely and utterly unproductive and ridiculous.
8. Obama supports the Arab aggression
Frank ,   Canada   (03.30.13)
Obama claims that Israel is the main cause of the Arab aggression proves that he cannot be trusted. Arabs are the aggressors and are therefore the ones able to the aggression. Obama statements are more than wrong, they are offensive
9. Obama still can´t be trusted...
Walid ,   Gata de Gorgos, Spai   (03.30.13)
I was born in Haifa in 1938. My father was a Lebanese Moslem and my mother was a Jew from Cairo. She converted to Islam and spent many happy years with my father and brought him three children. We left Haifa in 1948 to Lebanon. I am sure I have many Jewish cousins in Israel because my mother had 3 sisters and 3 brothers. I never saw any one of them again since 1948. While growing up, we were taught to tolerate both the Jews and Arabs and hate was not in our vocabulary. Since the 1960s I have written many letters about the Arab Israeli issue that appeared in Newsweek, Time, IHT and other international newspapers and magazines. My letters were published because it seems what I had to say on the subject was important enough to justify hundreds of thousands of people reading them. I am not anti Semitic, but rather anti Zionist. In my grade school I shared my desk with a Jewish boy named Menachem. He used to bring a dark bread with cream cheese sandwich and I used to bring one with Halwa or labneh and we used to trade. We were friends. We all lived peacefully and on weekends we used to spend time with my aunts and uncles in Tel Aviv or Azizieh beach. My mother used to go shopping with me in Hadara and I used to love the Jewish hotdog that a vendor used to sell on the street. At the time, Palestinians outnumbered the Jews in Palestine. But the influx of Jews from Europe changed the ethnic balance. However, we regarded local Jews like Arabs but with Jewish religion just as those who were Moslems or Christians. My father had many Jewish friends. We all had similar culture. The European Jews, who were mostly Zionists, are the ones who changed the equation and created the hate between Palestinians and Jews. They wanted to take over and this is what they finally did with the use of force. Since then, this hate spread all over the Arab world. I am sure if the Jews at the time negotiated with the Palestinians, and only the Palestinians and not the Arab countries who were and still are useless, they would have reached a peaceful solution and continued to live together sharing a country that belonged to both people. In the 70´s I was approached several times by Israeli messengers who asked me to get involved in resolving the Israel-Palestinian issue. These messengers were sent by Aba Eban and Shamir. At the time I suggested something that no one could imagine, an Israeli-Palestinian Federation. I said then that such a Federation would become the most successful entity in the Middle East. Just imagine clever Jews and Palestinians doing business in the Arab World who were swimming with Petro Dollars and eager to develop their countries. I still think today that this is the only solution. Neither Israel nor Palestine can still exist for a much longer time with the present status quo. Israel military power is not enough to sustain the present situation. The Arab countries are getting richer and stronger and the new Arab generation of young people will no longer tolerate being humiliated by Israel. A good example is Hezbollah. Radical Islam is on the rise and the Arab Spring is engulfing the whole region. Look what is happening in Syria now. Forget the US or anyone else. No one is going to resolve this problem that has been going on since six decades but the Jews and Palestinians. Setting claim to all of Palestine is not going to work. Share this wonderful country like my parents and I shared before 1948. I am now 75 and my biggest wish is to see peace in Israel/Palestine before I die. I want to be buried in Mount Carmel near the Baha’i Temple were we lived.
10. when could obummer ever have been trusted?!?!
jerome ,   basalt, colorado   (03.30.13)
maybe he should give more F-16's and abrams tanks to the brotherhood boys
11. #2 steve you obviously know nothing about the author
Jerome ,   basalt, colorado   (03.30.13)
she actually makes her living as a attorney. she also has great insight an is a realist on the situation in the mid-east. maybe you don't like the cold hard facts cause they don't fit your agenda?
12. Like any celebrity the Sun King plays to his audience
RedBull ,   USA   (03.30.13)
Believe what he says at your own peril.
13. Reality to Mark I trust the author more than I trust you.
BUILD BABY BUILD !!! ,   United States   (03.30.13)
obama "demands Israel end all settlement activities" ms. clinton, echoes "Israel end all settlements activities" obama on the eve before Bibi's speech to the joint Session of both both houses, "Israel to negotiate with the'67 borders" Get a brain or rent one, you're as dumb and as muslim as is obama.
14. 7
(03.30.13)
your national interests may not be the national and security interests of israel., WE, israelis live here and will pay the consequences of your national interest, not you. WE israelis are not willing to commit suicide because obama wants a mid east peace legacy contrary to all the reality on the ground. think about this. you do not live here. you do not know what is going on at all and the reality on the ground. you depend on ly on magazines and news for your information. but israelis will have to live and experience what the usa will push on them. you won't pay the price with blood and bone. we will.
15. Obama's Ramallah speech
Asher Gladson ,   USA   (03.30.13)
The banner under which Pres. O. stood was of the CO-founders of Fatah and PLO: Arafat AND Abbas, who also stood feet away. Pres. O. redefined "non-violence" when he congratulated the PA villagers for their "understanding of the moral force of non-violence."
16. If you don't want Obama's solution, then don't take his mone
Myconius ,   L'wd, Nl   (03.30.13)
But as long as the US pays, they have a say.
17. #5, Uncle Noodles hit the nail on the head !
Chris Rettenmoser ,   Bayerisch Gmain Germ   (03.30.13)
18. #7. Obamabot: We hate community organizer
Tom W ,   USA   (03.30.13)
19. Trust Obama - Not ever
Kimo AL Quds ,   Memphis Tn   (03.30.13)
AS we have learned in the USA, Obama is a shameless liar who will do and say anything to get his way. Ask yourself who can study in a madrassa? Only muslims. Obama was adopted by an Indonesian govt official who converted him to Islam. Yet he calls himself a christian. How many muslims are allowed to convert away from Islam? None. Obamas first speech laid the groundwork for him to get rid of Mubarak and bring on the ascension of the Muslim Brotherhood. The Mb by the way is home to Al Zawahari who is now the leader of Al Quaida. SO Obama put Al Quaida/MB in charge in Egypt. No Israel should never trust Obama or any democrat for that purpose. American jews need to dump the democrats as well as they turn on Jews every chance they get
20. #7 alex uh yeah the two state solution was tried and offered
jerome ,   basalt, colorado   (03.30.13)
by Israel FOURTIMEs and the anwser by the aRaBs was war murder and death. if Israel had a real and true peace partner there would have been peace, BUT alas there is NO PARTNER IN PEACE. being careful and cautious with obama for obvious good reason is not being paranoid or ridiculous.
21. Ridiculous n0 2
yossi ,   Canada   (03.30.13)
To believe that the Palestinians leaders will ever accept a Jewish state with Jerusalem as capital of Israel is ridiculous... The Palestinian state is far from being born.
22. #6 You hit the nail on its head. Thanks.
Gad Schalit   (03.30.13)
23. Fact: we'll be here long after US is gone.
tom ,   tel aviv   (03.30.13)
24. Finally Sanity
Brett ,   Florida   (03.30.13)
This op-ed is spot on truth. The whole world knows that if Israel were to agree to 1967 borders, it would be suicide for Israel. But, obama comes with his community organizer shpeel to hypnotize the weak minded. You have to know the truth to be able to detect a lie. His intentions for Israel and America is destruction.
25. Nr 2 and 7.
Arn. ,   Sweden.   (03.30.13)
Nr.2. This talkbacker cant understand more than 60 Years of Muslim/Arabian/Palestinian Enimosity and Hatred against the Jews. Writes His oppinion as that never Happen. What a Selfdeceiver this is, as also the One belowe - Nr 7. I Quote - Plus, strategically thinking, if you do this, and then experience violent aggression from a Palestinian state, you will have the world's support for your subsequent response Comment - Israel Does not and Has not had the Worlds support albait more than 60 Years of such Violent Agression. Amazing what kind of Proud Selfdeceived Usefull Idiots there are. Arn.Sweden.
26. Just because I am paranoid..
Jon ,   Baltimore, US   (03.30.13)
doesn't mean that everyone is not out to get me.
27. 2# Give it a break...You lefties live for the day
Steven Wilson ,   Anchorage, Alaska   (03.30.13)
when Obama betrays us all. Enough said.
28. Mark #2: Why not refute the author point by point?
Steve   (03.30.13)
I'm sorry to make this personal but you made it personal. Isn't this "typical" of the far left? Attack the author rather than refute his or her cogent points? Trust is important when it comes to a writer or author. Do you know anything significant about the author and her profession that serves to undermine her credibility? What has President Obama done prior to (he was a twenty year member of a racist church, who listened to racist / anti-Semitic sermons) and since he became president to engender our trust.
29. #7; Stop patronizing Israelis; we are not stupid
Zipi ,   Tel Aviv, Israel   (03.30.13)
You care about Jewish Democracy? You are repeating the patronizing words of Obama during the speech. Like obama you want us to make Israel 9 miles wide because you want us to still be Jewish demographically; When Israel will be 9 miles wide with Hamas on both sides with their missles, Israel will not survive; there will be dead jews ; Your other patronizing words that if there will be Palestinian violence, (is not if- but a sure thing. ) then the Israel will have the world support to defend itself. REALLY? After Israel got out of Gaza, and defends itself, the world condemned us with Goldstone report and the Europeans went nuts after the second time in DEcember when Israel tried to defend itslef against Hamas attacks; Israelis are not stupid. We don't trust Obama!!.
30. Sad article and even sadder quire
Ridicules   (03.30.13)
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