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Survivor: Israel's youth uninterested in Holocaust
Brit Perets
Published: 07.04.13, 10:01
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1. I believe
Raz ,   IDC   (04.07.13)
I believe that it isn't the youth being uninterested, but that today's youth are so connected and enjoying the full swing of globalization that the mere chance of history repeating itself in the manner of a Jewish Holocaust is close to impossible. Not to mention that today's generation are more optimistic and tend to shut out negativity(for better or worse) while saying "yeh tov!"
2. Get a grip
Steve   (04.07.13)
Growing up in the shadow of the Holocaust, my Yiddish teachers were mostly survivors, they did not feel the need to graphically describe the atrocities in living color. We understood what had occurred, but thank goodness our dear teachers did not feel the urge to terrorize young children with tales of horror and depravity. Glad you survived Mr. Ronen, but it sounds like your PTSD really should be treated.
3. Not wanting to know!
tiki ,   belgium   (04.07.13)
Ignorance is the recipe for future disasters!
4. the behaviour of his family is truly horrific
Cipora Julianna Kohn ,   Z   (04.07.13)
the "rabbi" is not a rabbi and his daughters do not follow the mitzvoth. they do not respect their father, they neglect him. the government should make it an obligation on penalty of law for children to visit their parents at least occasionally and to teach their children to visit their grandparents. the "rabbi" should lose his license and be forbidden to act as a rabbi.
5. holocaust survivor
jo moor   (04.07.13)
Is this really true that a man's family would cut him off totally after what he has endured or are there pages missing to this story? What is read between the lines? What's going on with holocaust survivors in Israel? Why are they not looked after by the state? Is Bibi's ice cream cravings more important for the fiscal donations?
6. To Mr. Ronen
R ,   Israel   (04.07.13)
Hearing other survivors' stories is what convinced me to come to Israel. Don't give up; maybe the schools will come to their senses and contact you. I wish I could hear your story.
7. If you dont remember your past you are doomed to relive it
Al   (04.07.13)
8. #2: First part is correct but not the last half sentence!
N ,   N   (04.07.13)
Because you cannot assume/imply, that he has PTSD. As the reality of that time was horror, it is no "disorder" that one remembers that horror from time to time. Only if one couldn't get on with life, then it can be labelled as a "disorder". But he obviously did get on with life (1945 is 68 years back!).
9. not uninterested
arthurf ,   amsterdam   (04.07.13)
Dear Mr. Ronen, don't worry about those youngsters, they have heard and seen more than enough similar stories. They are youngsters and absorb your info, but their focus is on other things. They won't forget what you told them. But they live in a totally different world today, trying to survive today's threats. I am 46 now, my father endured 3 camps from '42-'45 and after his passing I am the one left with trauma and obsession. The Holocaust will not be ignored nor forgotten, if you preserve your experiences for future generations they will be noticed, don't worry about that.
10. Always remember
Joanne ,   haifa israel   (04.07.13)
Dear Mr Ronen I think there is nothing more important for us to pass down to our children the horror of the holocaust and ensure that they never forget but I agree with #2 there are ways of doing this without traumertizing them with graffic details that may not be age appropriate, and forgive me if I am being judgemental but just from your few words I think the schools are probabley terrified from the approach you may take with these children
11. Never Forget or Forgive the Perpertrators
Zechariah   (04.07.13)
The Shoah ought sear the Jewish soul especially the secular but it's not good for children or adolescents to be hit too hard with the terrible suffering.Research into intelligent Education is required.
12. I wish Y-Net would have asked...
Joseph ,   London England   (04.07.13)
I wish Y-Net woud have asked the schools why they did not reply. Schools should have the basic human decency to reply to such a personal offer. I also wish Y-Net would interview his daughters' 'rabbi' to ask why he banned contact with their own survivor father. Even if he is anti-religious, we haven't been where he's been and we cannot judge his response. We had a Holocaust educator here in London who had been a Hasid before the holocaust and became a reform rabbi after the war. When Hugo Gryn passed away the [Orthodox] Chief Rabbi attended the memorial service and the emeritus [Orthodox] Chief Rabbi attended the shiva. Who are we to judge survivors?
13. #4
A Jerusalemite ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (04.07.13)
I agree with your statements re the rabbi and Mr. Ronen's daughters, but cannot agree with your proposed governmental intervention. I am the daughter of a sole survivor from a large family. My mother suffered serious emotional problems after the war. I was removed and grew up in foster homes. I don't believe that is the answer. If she had been given the necessary support and treatment, if I had been given the same, I could have lived with her. It would have been better for both of us. Mr. Ronen is correct in that the lessons of the Holocaust must continue to be taught to each generation in turn. The question is how this should be done...
14. Hey Shlomo
(04.07.13)
Share your experience with Nazis to open Israeli youth mind up about the horror of the IDF ! Be useful
15. Holocaust
Steve Gure USA ,   coconut creek, fl   (04.07.13)
Dear Mr Ronenn. The youth of today In the U.S. as probably in Israel are not interested what occurred to you a long time ago. They are self centered, want to be entertained and you do not addrress their needs. The rabis are not a good influence on your daughters and in my opinion your family do not raise to your ankles. Do not worry about it. I understand because I am also a holocaust survivor annd things like this do not bother me much.
16. How Can We Meet You
Israel   (04.07.13)
If anyone from ' Y Net ' is reading this post -- How can I find Me. Ronen. Myself and a friend would like to sit with him, talk and even interview him if possible. Not for work or public purposes but to let this mans story live on
17. Here is a different opinion :-
Barbara ,   Haifa Israel   (04.07.13)
Growing up during the 60's in Miami, Florida in an upper middle class Jewish (non-religious) environment, my memories are only of having fun, fun and fun. Throw in some education, too. Whenever my parents or my grandmother started their narrations about the Holocaust - I tuned them out. That is why I understand today's youth. Another reason is that I didn't get any Holocaust / Jewish teachings in school - so it was out of my realm and far away. Even American history didn't affect my wish for fun - only to pass the tests. Only today, when the information and stories are out there, am I interested to learn. But it needs to be put into perspective.
18. Not meaning to be cynical but . . .
R Narz ,   Toronto   (04.07.13)
he needs to get on the web, that is a much more likely way of connecting with that age group. A blog or maybe a twitter account?
19. What happened to the money
SarahB ,   Tel Aviv/London   (04.07.13)
Germany has given so the Jewish State can look after the survivors of the Holocaust?
20. Political overuse
Paul ,   brisbane   (04.08.13)
renders many things redundant. Maybe if Israel stopped pulling the Holocaust "get out of jail free" card every ten minutes to justify its own abhorrent behaviour, then ....
21. #15 steve
solomon ,   bklyn   (04.08.13)
My mom, a survivor, goes to plenty of classrooms in the US, and the kids are eager to learn. You just don't know about them.
22. #20 paul
solomon ,   bklyn   (04.08.13)
You are one of those who doesn't want to hear reality. You also don't see the reality of Hamas, Hez. PA abhorrent behavior. You believe in mantras. Ever hear of Israel helping others, sending medical teams, etc. You can't; you shut your eyes and close your ears as tight as you can. Others prefer the real world. Sorry.
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