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Rabbis: Act modestly to stop anti-Semitism
Kobi Nachshoni
Published: 23.04.13, 13:52
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31. 26 - And Wroclaw is actually a German city called Breslau.
split ,   US   (04.25.13)
Prussian to be precise after 1741, for a while and again after Napoleon's fall. Prior to that ruled by Poles and Czechs as an integral part of their kingdoms - Why don't you read first and spare us your ignorance ,...
32. #30 - stealing Jewish property and discriminating Jews for
split ,   US   (04.25.13)
Like I have stated and repeat, no one invited you their to start with ,... What Jewish property? A stolen property bought or received for favors from a robber is still stolen property just like the property bought or received for favors in occupied Poland from an occupier is still stolen property. As we know there were no Jewish real estate owners in pre-partitioned Poland (or any country) at that time and 147 years later in some cities and certain parts especially in Russian sector the Jews 'owned' most of it. The emperors were giving away and selling it (names of the owners included) left and right for snitching and favours because they knew it wasn't theirs and one day Poles will take back what's theirs. A squatter is a squatter a back stabbing one is the worst of all and even if tolerated on the host soil can't own anything there as squatter and should be treated as one ,...
33. To nr 31
Alexander ,   Tel Aviv, Israel   (04.25.13)
In 1905, 75% of the population of Silesia, where Wroclaw is located, was German. Wroclaw changed hands between Bohemia (until 992, then 1038–1054), and Poland (992–1038 and 1054–1202). As early as the 13th Century, German settlers lived in Wroclaw - or should I say German speaking settlers. Germany was established in 1871 - before that it was Prussia, but they were still German speakers split,... So the origins of Wroclaw are not necessarily Polish,...
34. Jealousy?! GET REAL!!
Jerry ,   The Netherlands   (04.25.13)
Even G-d becomes 'antisemitic' when jews use Him to inflate their own egos without delivering the REAL THING, which is His Love. Antisemitism goes a lot deeper, it is based on the presence of BIG EGO'S combined with the absence of any NATURAL LOVE. The task of being chosen has historically developed as being just too much to handle. Not that any other 'people' would have been able to do any better, COLLECTIVELY REINFORCED NARCISISM comes with the job. Antisemitism is not a jewish OR a non-jewish problem, it is not only negative in nature, it is a signal of the denial of the True G-d and His Oneness (far 'before' or 'after' Creation, any culture or language,etc.), the denial of LOVE and warm, soft, NATURAL kedushah, by both jews and non-jews. It will take more to 're-unite' G-d than to blame only the 'goyim' for antisemitism. To 're-unite' G-d and humankind, it will take a FRESH JEWISH IDENTITY RESET :) In other words, JEALOUSY? No! Let's get REAL.
35. To nr 32 and nr 29 So you espouse massacres on Jews?
Alexander ,   Tel Aviv, Israel   (04.25.13)
You contradict yourself: In post nr 32 you said: "Like I have stated and repeat, no invited you their to start with.." (is that a reason to hate them, massacre them and steal their private property? Probably in your sick and twisted mind) And in post nr 29 you stated: "you're just another invader/marauder and episode in their history" So if Jews are "foreign" and "alien" in Israel, and not wanted in Poland, where do the Jews come from? Again - no answer from you. Provide proof that Jews are foreigners in Israel and provide proof of the existence of any ancient "Palestinian" people and what this has got to do with a Polish Catholic in the USA. Actually, the king of Poland invited the Jews to develop Poland's economy and cultural and scientific life. Just read history. It helps. split - quit the crap will you? Privately owned Jewish property owned and payed for by Jews was stolen by the Germans and by the Poles during WW2 and by the Poles during the Cold War. Do you Poles routinely invite foregners and then massacre them and steal their privately owned property? You do not even recognize fundamental human rights for Jews simply because they are Jewish. And what crime did the Jews "commit" in Poland? You said that nobody invited us. Wrong, the Polish king invited the Jews. But again, are you saying that massacres on Jews and discrimination on Jews is "ok" because they lived in Poland? Ok split, I sincerely hope that you personally and Poland will be subject to the same racism and hatred that you espouse. You constantly repeat your hatred of Jews, but you can never answer the question "why" and "what crimes did the Jews commit?". I'd guess you can't answer that question can you? It is the Poles that robbed Jewish property - not vice versa. How can Jews "rob" something they have purchased for their own money?
36. 30 - would you collectively demonize them ,...
split ,   US   (04.25.13)
Isn't that what you do plus milking on the top of it to generations of Germans, demonise and make them pay to a for the sins of their grand fathers not to mention to a country that didn't exist at the time ? ,... They took responsibility for their monsters, when are you going to take for yours like Yagoda, Kaganowich, Bela Kun or Morel to name few ? ,...
37. On split's infinite hogwash
jdc ,   New York, US   (04.25.13)
More US Jews in IDF than USMC ? Wrong measure: In 2009, there were 4700 US Jews in the US Armed Forces, far more than in the IDF. Milking US and Germany for aid ? US aid is spent in US and is a tiny fraction of Israel's GDP, as Alexander explained. Germany has paid a tiny fraction of what they have stolen from Jews in WW2. And that money has basically stopped. Jews stealing from others to get Nobel Prizes, so no true Israeli prizes ? First, google the list and get amazed. Modern Israel is a young, war-torn country, whose professors travel to work on sabbaticals all over. That makes it only natural. On ethnic origins of Jews: what do you care ? Jews, after centuries of mistreatment, have finally said to Europe and Arab countries: 'ok, we get it, you hate us and keep killing us, we are out of here'. and came back to Israel. Modern Palestinians are descendants of real Hebrews ? They do not seem to think that. They are pretty sure they are Arab. In any case, does that mean you hate them too ?
38. 33 - So the origins of Wroclaw are not necessarily Polish,..
split ,   US   (04.26.13)
But Slavic for sure and more Polish than German - Little better but a smoke screen and step dancing away from subject ,... There were Slavic Unions and few Tribes west from Odra and Nysa Rivers and all the way north to Baltic Sea before and after X century but I don't expect you to know it. Also in the time you mentioned 13 century Wroclaw was abandoned and burned to the ground by Poles to stop advancing Mongols. During that time around 50 km west from Wroclaw defending town and fortress Legnica Polish duke Henry II the Pious lost his life ...
39. To nr 28 - A few examples of Israeli inventions
Alexander ,   Tel Aviv, Israel   (04.26.13)
Many computers today are run on Pentium MMX or Centrino processors/technology designed at Intel's laboratories in Israel. There is also a chance that your computer has bee checked by Israel's Orbotech software systems. ICQ and Bluetooth were developed i Israel. Almost every phone call in China is routed through an Israeli system developed by ECI. Canada's Bell Systems has upgraded its entire phone network with systems from a Jerusalem based software Company called Magic. The Israeli phone Company called Bezeq is setting up a mobile phone network in Three states in India. Motorola-Israel is setting up a mobile phone network in Ghana. Israel which is today a partner with NASA and its European and Russian counterparts, has aided them in building and designing the Components of NASA's Spirit Rover Mission to Mars. RAD signalling systems, NDS interactive options/digital television screens were developed in Israel. Manitoba processors have been developed by Israel for cellular telephones. American based Intel, the world's largest producer and manufacturer of computer processors, established its first overseas design and development center in Haifa Israel in 1974. A security program called "Check Point" was developed in Israel. Amdocs was born in Israel. Flight Guard - a radar based anti-missile warning system used on airplanes, civilian Aircraft and helicopters, was developed in Israel. Digolog System, DiskOnKey and the Steadicopter are other examples of Israeli inventions. The Swedish air force upgraded its maneuver system/Control system with Israeli assistance. So, what has Poland accomplished...?
40. Harder to catch this time ? ,...
split ,   US   (04.26.13)
90 % of of your list is an unconfirmable crap, don't have a time to check it - Poles decoded German ENIGMA and disallowed Hitler to finish what he started so be nice to them ,... Going fishing on the way 'll be passing Intel in DuPont ,...
41. To nr 40 -Not at all little split...
Alexander ,   Tel Aviv, Israel   (04.26.13)
...but unlike you I actually have a life of my own - I can't educate anti-Semitic morons and lunatics 24/7 365 days a year. Explain the following: 1) Are you capable of having a mature and academic discussion without resorting to insults and, slangs, threats and racism? 2) How did you come to the conclusion that 90% is "unconfirmable"? 3) Why is it "unconfirmable"? You can find it on the Internet. The reason why you won't admit that Jews and Israel are at the very forefront of science and technology in this world is because you would have to discard your ideologically motivated and racist assumptions that Jews are "stupid", "uneducated", "primitive" or that their success is a "theft" of ideas. The TRUTH is painful to you. 4) How do you define crap - besides what you write at Ynet? Elaborate, explain what is "crap". 5) What do you mean by writing constantly ",..."? What does ",..." mean? Why not write "..."? 6) Why do you always copy, paste and repeat like a parrot what other talkbackers write? 7) ENIGMA? I don't know if Poles decoded it, but dude, that was 6 decades ago. I'd guess you Poles are running short of scientific contributions to mankind. 8) Why do you constantly compare Poles and Polish anchievements to Jews and Jewish achievements if you think so lowly of the Jews? I'll get back to you later to respond to your usual hogwash. I wish you a happy day fishing. Let's hope you fall in...
42. To nr 36 - Oh really?
Alexander ,   Tel Aviv, Israel   (04.26.13)
And who are we Jews collectively "demonizing"? Examples, sources, proof and evidence please. You mean pointing out to German and Polish warcrimes? That's not demonization. Demonization is of people - not of actions. We criticize and hate the Germans and the Poles for their warcrimes against Jews and the popular anti-Semitic beliefs among Germans and Poles. Their German and Polish identity is not the issue. We hate and feel contempt for these nations because of their actions and beliefs, and not because of their racial stock. You on the other hand - you personally, and Germans and Poles hate us Jews because of our ethnicity, racial stock and culture. We hate the Germans and the Poles because of what you have done to the Jews whereas you collectively hate us Jews because of who we are - big difference. Germany has massacred 6 million Jews, stolen Jewish property at an estimated value of 300-400 billion dollars but only paid back a fraction of it, and you claim Germans have "paid their debt" and that we are "milking" them - by demanding our money back? You really are crazy split... Yagoda, Kagnowich, Bela Kun and Morel - they were few in numbers, they were Socialists and/or Communists, some of them had mixed ethnic background, and they do not represent the Jewish people nor Israel - nor have the Jews collectively supported these individuals nor has Israel given them any orders. These Jewish individuals worked for the Communists and the Soviet Union - they didn't work for Israel, Zionism, Judaism or the Jewish people. I feel no shame and no regret since we Jews took no part in those massacres. It's like saying that all Georgians are bad and evil because Stalin was Georgian. You are running out of arguments...
43. To nr 38
Alexander ,   Tel Aviv, Israel   (04.26.13)
In what sense in Breslau more Slavic than Germanic? Breslau has changed hands many times. The German cultural presence is strongly felt in Breslau - even today. Why should I have detailed information about little Poland and every individual king, prince, count or duke? Do you honestly think that the entire universe centers around knowing the royal families of Poland? Historical Poland was based further east in what today is Lithuania, Belarus and Ukraine. So I will repeat my question: Since Poles are not racially pure and modern day Poland's political territory does not correspond to historical Poland, how do you defend or explain Poland's right to exist? To clarify: I am not saying that Poland has no right to exist. I am simply saying that using your argument, Poland would have no right to exist.
44. Ahem. Concerning # 7.
Neptune   (04.27.13)
Do you really think the fellow is a former Jew? These words "they talk about so we don't question them in 'fear' we might be called racist." indicate the opposite.
45. Jewish supremacism and articles such as these...
Ari Salami ,   Tel Aviv   (05.22.13)
...are the the root cause. It is shocking, utterly shocking, that Jewish people read this article and cannot see how racist and insulting it is towards people who are not Jewish. THAT attitude, is THE cause of all of the problems. But that attitude IS Judaism. That is what it is all about.
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