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Haredi group: Resist draft with all your soul
Akiva Novik
Published: 25.04.13, 17:34
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1. Fortress
David Sarna ,   Teaneck, NJ   (04.25.13)
So-called haredim who equate defending Israel with Nazis have crossed the line. They have abandoned Judaism and have become mumarim, those who have abandoned their faith. I urge YNet to refer to them as they are, Mumarim and not haredim.
2. Let them leave, they won't be missed.
Wise Saba ,   Western Negev   (04.25.13)
In fact the country will save money that way. Bye, bye losers.
3. How much better and more Jewish
Gideon Reader   (04.25.13)
...this headline would have been if the imprecation would have been... "to work to defend the Jewish state with all your heart and soul, in any capacity, and where you are needed". The Giborim of jewish history would not recognize these shadows of what a Jew is supposed to be. Sad. Just totally sad.
4. deport them to Gaza or W B !
David ,   Montreal, Canada   (04.25.13)
5. HAREDI MUST OBEY THEIR GOVERNMENT LAWS...IT IS WRITTEN
Esther ,   Selkirk Canada   (04.25.13)
THINK OF DANIEL.. RUSSIAN JEWS WHO CONVERTED TO CHRISTIANITY ARE MOST BLESSED NOW= DEFINATELY HEAVEN-BOUND ..FAR MORE BLESSED THAN HAREDI WITHOUT MESSIAH CHRIST WILL NOT FORCE HIMSELF ON ANYONE...IF THOSE RUSSIAN JEWS DID NOT WANT TO CONVERT TO CHRISTIANITY-THEY DIDN'T.. EVEN THOUGH THEY WOULD BE UTTERLY FOOLISH... NOT DOING SO GOD=CHRIST IS NOT SATAN=ANTI-CHFRIST WHO FORCES EVIL RUSSIA DID THOSE JEWS A HUGE-HUGE FAVOUR.. RUSSIA SET THOSE JEWS FREE FROM RELIGIOUSNESS WITHOUT RIGHTEOUSNESS OPPRESSION=FORCED CONFORMITY=EVIL=NOT OF GOD NO-ONE CAN BE MADE RIGHTEOUS KEEPING TORAH-LAW..FOR NO-ONE HAS KEPT ALL TORAH-LAWS..TO BREAK ONE LAW=TO BREAK ALL LAWS= SAME DIFFERENCE SIN=SIN=SEPARATION FROM GOD WHY..ALL NEED MESSIAH= LORD-KING YESHUA=JESUS CHRIST=ABBA FATHER GOD IN FLESH=COMPLETE TRUTH HIMSELF=BLESSING-DOUBLE PORTION OR JEWS TOO WILL PERISH IN THEIR SINS...IT IS WRITTEN IT IS WRITTTEN...GOD WILL ALWAYS TURN WHAT MIGHT APPEAR TO BE EVIL -TO HAREDI & MAKE THE BEST GOOD FOR THAT PERSON CHRISTIAN JEWS=MESSIANIC ARE MOST ENLIGHTENED JEWS IN WORLD - HAREDI WOULD BE MOST BLESSED TO UNITE WITH THEM SERVING IN ARMY..IF YOUR FAITH IS STRONG WILL NOT HARM YOU.. BE A LIGHT FOR GOD FEAR NOT..BUT TO THINK YOU ARE HOLIER THAN THOU- THE REST IS PRIDE=SIN=SATAN'S SICKNESS-DISEASE ALWAYS GOETH BEFORE A FALL HAREDI MUST OBEY GOVERNMENT ..GOD SAID EVEN IF WRONG IN HAREDI EYES YOU DO NOT KNOW THE BIG PICTURE GOD=IN COMPLETE CONTROL IF..GOD WANTS TO PUNISH ISRAEL FOR SINS.. & MANY SINS IN ISRAEL NOW...GOD WILL I KNOW YOU WANT TO REMAIN PURE-HOLY SANCTIFIED-JUSTIFIED-SET APART FOR GOD'S WILL...ANYONE SANE WANTS THAT BUT TO FORCE CONFORMITY= NO DIFFFERENT THAN ISLAM FORCED CONFORMITY GOD GIVES US =SINNERS= JEWS-ARABS-PA-GENTILES FREEDOM=CHOICE CHRIST=MESSIAH=GOD IN FLESH OR ANTI-CHRIST=SATAN=SIN=DEATH =EVIL TRUTH OR LIES SANITY OR INSANITY RIGHT OR WRONG PURITY=MORALITY OR IMPURITY=IMMORALITY FREEDOM=CHOICE..OR OPPRESSION=FORCED CONFORMITY=NO FREEDOM= NO CHOICE HEAVEN OR HELL-FOREVER PLAIN & SIMPLE OBEY....DISOBEDIENCE=SIN MAY OUR GREAT GOD BE WITH YOU...SHALOM
6. Haredim and the army
israeli 40+years ,   Israeli   (04.25.13)
We came here years ago, my husband and all my children served in the IDF as well as wars.We are proud to be here.The Haredim should be deported to wherever their ancestors came from.They do not defend anything with the prayers.Prayers only comfort people who have no other way out. Suicide is forbidden if you are a Jew, and they will be buried outside the fence. How dare they compare the inquisition or the Nazi terror to serving in the IDF! They are completely insane!
7. Now the Haredi rabbis are flirting with inciting suicide
Thinking Jew ,   Kippa Seruga   (04.25.13)
They are the complete opposite of Tora
8. Suicide preferable to be equal to rest of the Israelis?Yes?
tom ,   tel aviv   (04.25.13)
9. Our leaders in the thirst of power allowed haredim to
Jew1 ,   Ashdod   (04.25.13)
destroy our nation. Election after election, they included hareidi parties in government giving them whatever they wish to destroy this country an to destroy themselves as normal community. They allowed these people to grow and prosper on the account of our country's future. Natenyahu, we do not need Iran to threaten us. We have in our backyard these home grown threat which will make sure to destroy us completely. Stop politics now and join hands with other parties to remove this threat from the society first and then talk about Iran. We are not fools, we do understand who stands in que as immediate threat.
10. suicide
david ,   jerusalem   (04.25.13)
does this pamphlet have instructions for commitiing suicide? Would one of these Rabbis assist their own son to commit suicide?
11. But demand your government handout with all your soul
Avi   (04.25.13)
12. Haredim - Army
observer13 ,   Toronto, Canada   (04.25.13)
This is obviously a case of a cult abusing it's children. Shouldn't children services step in and rescue the brain washed children? The adults are mostly beyond salvation.
13. disgusting comparison
zionist forever   (04.25.13)
I have never seen the point in the obsession to draft the haredi because the IDF doesn't need them and it will cost them many millions which could be better spent elsewhere to draft them but comparing the Jews who preferred death to rape is not just a false comparison but its disgusting to even make it. If they have a problem with government policy they are more than welcome to object and protest but trying to make Holocaust comparisons insults the memory of the real victims.
14. Fine, no army then no welfare
Ben ,   NY, USA   (04.25.13)
If they can't serve in the Jewish State's army then they shouldn't get the Jewish State's monies. Cut them off welfare and stop subsidizing their schools.
15. Twisted and Convoluted leave alone
Zechariah   (04.25.13)
These people are Twisted and convoluted and are best left alone in their lunatic asylum because the army does not take Haredi girls anyway.If they had only allied with The Jews for to the Empty areas of Palestine like the Negev where Abraham wandered .
16. Incitement to martyrdom
Sagi   (04.25.13)
Are these folk any better than our wonderful enemies who put a higher value on death than they do on life. I have been disgusted many times by their Rabbi's utterings but this one crowns them all. They are very sick people.
17. Pure garbage!
Miriam ,   Isael   (04.25.13)
18. Oy vey iz mir !!
Helene ,   Merkaz   (04.25.13)
19. Enemies of the Jewish People
Ira G. ,   Ra'anana   (04.25.13)
Surely there must be some laws against sedition and encouraging others to committ crimes. This shouldn't be open for a discussion, they need to be arrested immediately.
20. What?
michael Pielet ,   israel   (04.25.13)
You want to sanctify hashem's name, serve in the IDF! This article is ridiculous and a disgrace.
21. Tip Line
Daniel ,   Baltimore, USA   (04.25.13)
Aren't tip lines usually for reporting criminals? Here is a tip line for those threatening to obey the law!!
22. WE SHOULD RESIST SUPPORTING THEM
(04.25.13)
ANY PERSON RESISTING THE DRAFT . THE COUNTRY SHOULD RESIST GIVING MONEY
23. Sick demented MF's the whole lot of them
Al   (04.25.13)
They make me puke...
24. To #6
Norman ,   Boca Raton, US   (04.25.13)
"The Haredim should be deported to wherever their ancestors came from" Hmmmmm. .... I thought their ancestors came from either Judea or Samaria.
25. again haredim
FF ,   Brazil   (04.25.13)
If haridim don't work to ssupport their own kids, they don't give their kids a propper education,, they brainwashed the kids against zionists and Israel , they don't abide to Israel laws,permit the kids to be abused by pedophile,force them into marriage...etc... perhaps its the case to take out parental rights
26. Sick mamzers
Dan ,   NY   (04.25.13)
Hopefully they'll all commit suicide
27. Isn't suicide contrary to Halakha?
Vlad   (04.25.13)
The Haredim seem to be increasingly willing to ignore Jewish law and make a mockery of it. I'm convinced the rabbis are terrified of losing their hold on power, and are becoming more like cult leaders.
28. In my home
Gady ,   Mexico   (04.25.13)
...there will be no tears for this clowns.
29. By any measure
Sagi   (04.25.13)
a statement like this can be regarded as sedition, overt incitement to insurrection, subversion of the law of the land and he who made it must be arrested, held in custody and brought before a judge and formally charged. Once convicted the punishment should be deprivation of citizenship and immediate deportation, pour encourage les autres.
30. In the US
steve ,   dallas USA   (04.25.13)
In the US, when there was a draft, a booklet like this would have led to the incarceration of the writers. Encouraging someone to suicide is itself a crime and the whole booklet is nothing but advising people to break the law. If these people do not want to be citizens, they can certainly leave, Israel is not the Soviet Union.
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