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Arab initiative - so what?
Hagai Segal
Published: 04.05.13, 11:04
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1. "Peace"
tiki ,   belgium   (05.04.13)
This knee jerk reaction from the left when an Arab with a keffiyeh only 'utters the word, starts to be pathetic. Like the writer observes, the triumphant speeches & photo ops on the US White House lawns are drenched in Israeli blood.
2. Judea and Samaria are FOREVER Israel !
Chris Rettenmoser ,   Bayerisch Gmain Germ   (05.04.13)
TRASH YOUR EVIL PLANS !
3. In my opinion, Kerry is not just a clueless fool
Israel will not fall   (05.04.13)
He's a closet antisemite. Nothing else can explain his urgent need to weaken Israel in this dangerous tumultuous time in the ME. The good news is that he too, in time, will fully understand the Arab talk tactic and will do what all his predecessors did - move to the back seats of the theater where they can keep spewing their hatred for all things Jewish, without having the responsibility (re: Carter). And as always Israel will know how to preserve itself from its friends and enemies.
4. obama kerry give the saudi's your home.
BUILD BABY BUILD !!! ,   United States   (05.04.13)
Israel's is taken by legitimate Jews who've owned Israel for thousands of years the pals never owned Israel or anything but terror, lies and their own teens suicides
5. 40% of Palestinians support suicide bombing
Steve   (05.04.13)
"PEW Research Center published this week found that 40 percent of Palestinians believe that attacks against civilians in defense of Islam can be often or sometimes justified."
6. What the hell?
BUILD BABY BUILD !!! ,   United States   (05.04.13)
Might as well drag out grandma's long johns while your at it. Arab peace plan my ass. Israel wont exchange anything to allow her avowed enemy to live amongst humans and within her gates. This would be like America accepting a 'peace plan' of either Germany or Japan in WW 11. No way Jose.
7. obama kerry give the saudi's your home.
BUILD BABY BUILD !!! ,   United States   (05.04.13)
Israel's is taken by legitimate Jews who've owned Israel for thousands of years the pals never owned Israel or anything but terror, lies and their own teens suicides
8. Like Iran, sanctions on Israel are the only way forward
Ken ,   Burma at Peace   (05.04.13)
to Peace, the ball is in the US court, Israel's main arms supplier, the US has to start twisting arms, no punt intended.
9. #8. Like we're going to cede our 6,000 year old Homeland...
Chaim ,   Israel   (05.04.13)
Like Jews are going to cede our 6,000 year old ancestral Homeland because of sanctions. We've faced much worse than sanctions and we're here forever.
10. I used to fall for Arab
Purple Crunk Sauce ,   burning man, ca   (05.04.13)
propaganda.not anymore. I've probably visited every Arab country in the last 12 years, and the one place where I didn't not live in fear and saw the truth about a country was Israel. I probably go to tel Aviv a coupe times a year. almost every Arab friend I have tells me in private that they don't want Jews in Israel ever. and in Israel, just about everyone I know I. private tells me how bad they just want to live in peace. and after research I've learned that Israel has offered the Palestinians numerous times peace agreements and they have been turned down.I'm tired of falling for Arab propaganda.and now everytine I say anything good about Israel, I'm threatened and cursed by people on twitter and anything else. and pretty much all I say is that I hope Israel and the Palestinians live in.peace and that the Jews aren't threatened with extinction anymore. and I wish I could post the threats I get.I used tobelieve the propaganda. and I find it funny when people post awful lies about Israel. they are usually just followers and we're probably dorks in school and wanna seem cool. Israel is the true underdog, not the Arabs. and I still hope theirs peace but I love my Jewish friends and will always stand by Israel, even when my.life is threatened.
11. Help Oslo victims sue Labor for criminal negligence.
Chaim ,   Israel   (05.04.13)
Excellent article and spot on accurate. A major problem is that self serving Israeli politicians, behind the phony "peace talks". are never made to account for the Israeli blood spilled in their Nobel Peace Prize quest. Oslo alone cost Israel almost 900 murdered and over 14,000 maimed civilians. Far from apologizing, the Labor Party stands ready for more such "peace talks" with Israel's genocidal P.A. enemies - and thousands more Israeli casualties. We need to empower Oslo victims to sue the Labor Party for criminal negligence in the wrongful maiming and deaths of thousands of Israelis. That would be a great project for the Israel Law Center. Hold the guilty responsible for their deadly actions!
12. Peace will come after unconditional "Palestinian" surrender.
Chaim ,   Israel   (05.04.13)
Permanent peace came to Europe and Asia after the Germans and Japanese surrendered unconditionally to the Allies. Permanent peace will come to Israel after unconditional "Palestinian" surrender and the massive departure of "Palestinians" from our land.
13. Yes, Hagai Segal, you're right! Arobs will never give peace
Moshe ,   Usa   (05.04.13)
14. To Chaim.
Luiz F Haddad ,   Niteroi, Brazil   (05.04.13)
Dear brother. Looking for peace can never be called a "criminal negligence". Oslo's Treaty was signed by Israel on that good scope. Unhappily, Palestinian leaders, with little exceptions, don't give up to destroy your State. So, Israel has to be firm. But Labour Party has no guilt. War is the last solution.
15. so what? we yawn and live on .
trump   (05.04.13)
16. Kerry Is Not Just A Clueless Fool
Brett ,   Florida   (05.04.13)
Good point #3, and great opinion piece Mr.Segal. Why does obama want to weaken Israel at this particular time? Could it be his muslim upbringing? Could it be something he heard in church? Or is he just plain evil?
17. TO US AND THE REST OF MANKIND AND SO ON...
SJOERD VAN DER VELDE ,   OUR PLANET OF EARTH   (05.04.13)
GRADUALLY, IN PRINCIPLE THE ARABICAL POPULATION AND EVERY OTHER PEOPLE EVERYWHERE COULD BE WITHOUT/ FREE OF ISLAM, SINCE YESTERDAY OR/ AND SINCE QUITE A (LONG) TIME.
18. #14. Oslo victims deserve compensation from Labor.
Chaim ,   Israel   (05.04.13)
Hi Luiz, I love your spirit and thank you for your heartfelt support of Israel, despite the fact I often disagree with you. I wish you nothing but good! Oslo has been rightly described as "the worst self inflicted wound by any nation in history". I believe a fair court would find Labor's conduct, during Oslo, criminally negligent. Oslo led directly to almost 900 Israelis being murdered and more than 14,000 maimed. For a nation Israel's size, this is equivalent to many 9/11s. With no regard to the welfare of Israeli citizens, Labor made lunatic concessions of land and rights to terrorists pledged to destroy Israel. Labor's despicable conduct led directly to the unspeakable human toll of Oslo. Platitudes about "peace" are no excuse. Labor should be brought to justice and held accountable to the many thousands of Oslo victims. Oslo's victims deserve compensation from Labor.
19. The fact that Israelis like Shelly, Michaelli support Arab
tom ,   tel aviv   (05.04.13)
"initiatives" only goes to prove that this kind of activity should be prevented by law. We cannot rely upon the wishful thinking that people learn from history or are even remotely intelligent: we wouldn't have post communistic Communists/ post nazistic Neo-Nazis if that was true. Of course we wouldn't have Peace Now & Meretz either!
20. Thank you for speaking the truth
Andrew ,   New York   (05.04.13)
Thank you for standing by Israel and standing up to the ever-growing and misguided anti-Israel smear campaign that is devoted to the destruction of the Jewish state. We, the Jewish people in Israel and throughout the world, truly appreciate people like you spreading the truth.
21. shame
k   (05.04.13)
I can't believe how foolish we are...we're ready to buy from the Arabs our right to exist, our right to live in Eretz Israel, at the price of half our Land. We're offering half our land to the Arabs and they're offering us not to kill us!! We're giving in to blackmail. That's what "peace negotiations" means. We don't need to buy peace from the Arabs, we have to impose peace upon them. We're allowing them to choose wether they want to kill us or not, wether they want to behave peacefully or not. We don't have to suffer this. For a life-loving people like us, not being peaceful is not an acceptable option. We cannot allow others the right to kill us and we certainly don't have to buy this right at the price of half our land. Keeping the status quo or yielding to "peace nogotiations" is a shamefully weak attitude. Wake up!!!! Apply Jewish soverignty to Judea & Samaria and Gaza NOW!!
22. Where is Bennet and his plans to annex area C?
A ,   Belgium   (05.05.13)
Come on, Naftali, a lot of people are counting on you.
23. jews do not get it
Palestinian   (05.05.13)
jews of iron dome cannot even stop home made missiles made of pasta, jews of europ cannot live in peace in Palestinians' homes because balfour from eng--land had no right to give something dose not own. cannot stop home made missiles made from pasta, won't stop others make peace before its tooo late
24. arab initiatives- so what?
amir burstein ,   United States   (05.05.13)
AMEN SELLA to this article !
25. Palestinian # 23
Arnold ,   Canada   (05.05.13)
One thing I learned in school a long time ago was to read books of all subjects. Especially history books. Did you know how Palestine got its name. It was a name coined by the Romans when they occupied the Middle East. In fact Palestine included large parts of Syria, all of Lebanon, Jordon , as well as Judea, Samaria, Gaza , and of course Israel.
26. op-ed by Hagai Segal
rm ,   Amsterdan, NL   (05.05.13)
so what.....just the usual ultra-rightwing nationalist garbage...
27. When will Israel have peace?
emunadate   (05.05.13)
Peace for peace!
28. Land swap first step
Zechariah   (05.05.13)
A land swap is a good first step but the basic is the Defence of the Holy Land decades into the Future .Areas ought be available in All of The Holy Land for Armed Defense and Armed Attack against PsychoSuicidal Entities.There will be local turf conflicts which need fair resolution but the decades Forward As yet anticipated Threats are Far more Dangerous.
29. Convicted terrorist Hagai Segal is right, all borders unsafe
Steve Benassi ,   Silver Bay, MN USA   (05.05.13)
No borders will make invading Jews safe, in a majority Arab region. Integration of Palestine Israel is only solution now.
30. Hagai is 100% right!
Reuven   (05.05.13)
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