the Haredim ,what they have to work on,the Secular society 'd better focus on what they have to work on.Namely to get rid of violence,rapes,drugs and drinking problems in their schools.

Please Ora, i'm just curious. You are defending the haredi world with "nail and teeth". I suppose you must have haredi children , maybe also grandchildren . What i'm curious about is how many of the haredi children and grandchildren that are more than 18 have a professional activity and how many do not. If they do not depend on financial help or are on the way to have a living, I would say, thank God and it would improve my opinion. Only the duty of the parents to teach a profession or send the children to a school that does would remain my firm belief