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Jewish groups 'appalled' by Norwegian cartoon
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Published: 30.05.13, 14:06
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1. If you see a snake,just kill it...
ORA ,   JERUSALEM   (05.30.13)
don't appoint a committee on snakes. R.Perot.
2. Well, it wasn't by chance "Oslo" was signed in..Oslo!
tom ,   tel aviv   (05.30.13)
3. Let The Riots Begin!
emanon ,   USA   (05.30.13)
Oh wait . . . We don't do that stuff. We don't riot, even when such lies and libel are printed and yet, the world hates us.
4. "possibility of taking legal action"
A ,   Belgium   (05.30.13)
Don't be like Bibi or Oblabla and consider possibilities, just do it immediatley! Whoever drew this and whoever permitted it to be published should be sent to prison forever.
5. ABSOLUTELY SHOCKING
Tim ,   Brighton   (05.30.13)
So is THIS what they call Free Speech in Norway? Where are their Government Statements of disgust and condemnation? Is yet again their Government silence tacit approval of this sickening filth? Their silence is deafening So yet again the Norwegian Media and Political Establishment supercedes itself in what is overtly directly unashamed Norwegian Nazi Anti Jewish Racism What a sad mixed up bunch of political morons
6. This cartoon is offensive
Sagi   (05.30.13)
it is not anti Semitic and it is not designed to disparage Judaism. It is meant to bring attention to a barbaric and inhumane ritual which has no place in a modern society. If God is omnipotent and omniscient and omnipresent and is the creator as the faithful believe, then what right have we to "correct" his "mistakes" by mutilating his fine workmanship and artistry. Tradition? No, the Inca and Aztec cut out the hearts of young sacrificial victims to appease the "Gods", their ancestors are alive and kicking today and surely have become enlightened and do not continue the practice. As I said the cartoon is offensive, but let me assure you that I am deeply offended that my parents arbitrarily decided to chop off a small part of me when I was unable to decide for myself, and that by a primitive butcher and not by strict medical method. No parent should have this right. This practice should be outlawed and condemned by all decent people just as female genital mutilation is and indeed any mutilation of one human body by another except for medical reasons or by consent for cosmetic reasons. The days of barbarism should be over.
7. Ora, a snake is a creature of god
(05.30.13)
who are you to decide about its fate?
8. Hypocrisy
DudeWheresMyForeskin ,   Israel   (05.30.13)
What's interesting is that even though some forms of female genital mutilation (FGM) (including pricking, piercing etc.) are considered less harmful than the common male circumcision, people still support banning all forms of FGM. What about the people's "religious freedom"? Why the hypocrisy? I'm glad some countries are finally taking a stand against this barbaric practice. If the kid grows up and wants to saw bits of his penis off, fine! Let him make that decision on his own.
9. And that is why
Sane   (05.30.13)
The country deserves its Brieviks, who attack the very same left-wing anti-semites as publish this rubbish.
10. #6
Ben ,   Tel Aviv Israel   (05.30.13)
In your case they didn't remove enough. Your quasi logic, ridiculous comparisons and fuzzy thought process inspire nothing but bemusement. A Brit is not meant to " correct" a mistake but rather to play a part in perfecting creation. It represents belonging to a people that are committed to being a nation of Priests. A nation that has flourished where others have peaked and disappeared. A people that have derived strength from our beliefs and traditions for over three thousand years Grow up or crawl back under the rock where you came from.
11. Jews vs. Muslim
nadav ,   tlv   (05.30.13)
There are two reasons for this cartoon: 1) typical and traditional European Jew-hating anti-semtism 2) Fear of Muslims, rather than criticize the Muslims for circumcision (which they undertake at age 13!) for fear of the kind of typical, violent reaction that no doubt would have occurred if the cartoon showed Muslims- as was the case with Mohammad cartoons, Norway chose to criticize the practice of circumcision by attacking its disappearing community of 1000 Jews! On a side note- someone should let the Europeans know that Most American, Canadian and Australian GENTILES are circumcized! It's cleaner, less smelly, and you get and spread less diseases!
12. horrible disgusting cartoon, but...
iselin ,   Oslo, Norway   (05.30.13)
Horrible disgusting cartoon, but anti-semitic? Or anti-muslim? Which anti-semitic motifs? No anti-semitic stereotypes here: No sinister-looking dark faces with big noses on men in dark suits with silk ties and diamond tie-tacks or dollar signs, rather blond hair and no noses at all. Even the guy with the pitchfork has no expression on his face and the blond mother wears a Viking-esque cap. The artist is attacking the political correctness of Norway, that even rituals which are questionable in this modern age are somehow untouchable when done under the guise of religion. That is what this cartoon is about. The shocking part is the outsized shears and liberal use of red in an otherwise black and white drawing. By the way, you didn't translate the last words. Beklager avrytelsen = Sorry to interrupt you.
13. Feign being offended
Tomek ,   Poland   (05.30.13)
but it is disingenuous for you to pretend you do not get the point of this picture. Genital mutilation is at least as barbaric as cutting off a toe. Just because some peasants were doing it to each other millenia ago, and it is a part of a fairytale narrative, it does not render this act any less repulsive.
14. Dagbladet has proven yet again that
Sue them !   (05.30.13)
endemic hatred and Antisemitism dies hard. Norway seems to be the hatching ground lately of all kinds of deep hatreds and blatant and shameful comparisons. One wonders whether they have totally lost their minds or it's only rabid antisemitism. BTW, Dagbladet is obviously not interested in the Muslim world's practices of circumcision of at least hundreds of millions of their male population, but only in the tiny Jewish male population. How about double standards? Why wait? Just sue their Antisemitic a---s !
15. Let's not BS each other:we KNOW that Brit is primarily asso-
tom ,   tel aviv   (05.30.13)
ciated with Judaism and not with Islam. BTW: they don't do it at the age of 8 days. So just as claiming that Arabs are "Semites" too, thus they cannot be antisemitic, this is thinly veiled attack on Jews. Much more revolting than the proclaimed schock at our "barbaric" tradition. Listen who's talking, bloody whale eaters... "Norway Begins Annual Whale Slaughter Despite International Criticism Inhumane whaling methods involving exploding harpoons largely unchanged for 70 years"
16. cause & effect
tiki ,   belgium   (05.30.13)
European anti Israel politics! European ignoring of hate crimes against Jews European appeasing to Muslims, no matter what! Europeans forgetting their history & not teaching it! European genetic hate for Jews! The time of observing & absorbing has past! It's time to act! Give them a reason to hate you! Sue them into bankruptcy.
17. Spot the difference:
NilsG ,   Helsingborg, Sweden   (05.30.13)
Moslems have been subject of cartoon: we will kill the author! Jews have been the subject of cartoon: we will sue the author! You have to like the difference.
18. 7And If you have to choose ..
ORA ,   JERUSALEM   (05.30.13)
between your life and the snake's, don't you think, you ought to be enough mature to decide about your fate?
19. Tell the ADL to cool it
Shalom ,   Ashdod, IL   (05.30.13)
Goyim will NEVER understand the deeper meaning of the Milah. Their simple brains can only understand the pshat and that is why we thank Hashem every day and say "He has chosen us from among the rest of the nations". Advice "LET THEM BARK, after all that is what dogs know what to do best.
20. idiots and bigots who support cartoon
Xarxes X. Smith ,   St. Paul Min US   (05.30.13)
For the morons and psychotics wh are opposed to circum cision for non-bigoted reasons, wake up and start to read. The WHO, citing research, recommends male circumcision as a health measure that will reduce the incidence of HIV/AIDS. In fact, many African countries are implementing effort to have this procedure become routine because of the scourge of AIDS. In the US, the corrupt pediatric association bowed to the insurance companies and the loons in the organization and considers the procedure to be non-essential. Obviously, insurance companies don't want to pay for it. As far as the antisemitic bigots, thee is no hope and no explanation for people who hate so much.
21. Thin skin ,...
split ,   US   (05.30.13)
Is there any critical note that can be said about the Jews without being tagged as antisemite? ,...
22. 11 - let the Europeans know that Most American,
split ,   US   (05.30.13)
Not anymore and the number is falling - By the way in all those countries you have named it's done in hospital's operating room by traned doctor not some dirty mohel with rotting teeth giving the kid b.j.
23. Sagi # 6
Arnold ,   Montreal-Canada   (05.30.13)
Knowing the people and the country I assure you that this cartoon borders more on anti-semitism than you are willing to acknowledge. And I have to tell you that I am 64 and have come into contact with thousands of Jewish men from all over the world and have not heard one bad word from them about their circumcision. I have read about and seen many documentaries on body piercings and other forms of human body transformations. Stuff that goes back at least as long as the 1st circumcision by Abraham. By the way Muslims circumcise all their baby boys as well. Men and women all over the world tattoo their body parts and piercing is the rage. Yes an 8 day old baby boy has no say but it is his parents that do. NOT YOU.
24. Well said ORA @#1. I agree.
Israeli 2   (05.30.13)
25. Norwegians are barbarians-just like vikings their ancestors!
Jouko ,   Finland   (05.30.13)
26. #6 is right.
DavidR ,   USA   (05.30.13)
Brit = Covenant. I value being in Covenant with my Creator. I love His Torah in all its true forms. My parents failed to have me circumcised. I did it myself at age 63. It would have been easier at 8 days.
27. Sagi...are you aware that many non Jews
Ben ,   amazing Israel   (05.30.13)
, i mean gentiles, actually are circumcised. Why? health! Hygene! Same as many prefer kosher food. OK folks, do we take to the streets of Oslo, go fire the editors car??? NO? of course not, we take it as a tirade from a very ignorant and stupid person and we should just ignore this Big Nordic Zero!
28. #19 Shalom
DavidR ,   USA   (05.30.13)
You are wrong! There are millions of Goyim who know the deeper meaning of Milah. They also fully understand PRDS. Not these stupid cartoon drawers though. You should not generalize. Not all goyim are simple minded. Just most.
29. #22, even ignorant hate-mongering troll posts need rebuttals
Jake ,   USA   (05.30.13)
Since you are a typical hate spewing anti-semite, I'd rather not respond, but its necessary. Circumcision is absolutely a smart move for anyone who values their health and hygiene. Just look at an un-circumcised penis, its a disgusting bacteria trap. But thats besides the point, because Jews circumcise for their own reasons, not only because its smart and healthy. My son was circumcised while laying in my arms, I watched carefully as the procedure was done with utmost cleanliness and precision. The baby was given a wine-dipped cloth, and he stopped crying after literally 5 seconds. Circumcision in a hospital is done 5 or 10 babies at a time, and is much more traumatizing. The babies scream for several minutes even with anesthesia, which itself is harmful to the baby and the healing process. Your depiction of a "dirty mohel" reminds me of 1930's nazi propaganda and is completely detached from reality.
30. #21
Sane   (05.30.13)
Well, lets see, holy books dripping in blood and sticking a devil's trident into a babies head- Oh it's just critisising the Jews....
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