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Yesh Atid MK warns occupation will turn Israel into S. Africa
Attila Somfalvi
Published: 12.06.13, 23:12
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31. The Land Swap
Zechariah   (06.13.13)
The Land swap involving an area of 1400sq Km 1.1 with Islamic Israel will remove the Demographic mbalance created by the Shoah.thhere ought be Thirty Million More Jews Now Matryrdom Voters .
32. Why wasn't there peace before settlements
Dan ,   Israel   (06.13.13)
Ok so if settlements are the obstacle. One would think peace was obtainable from 1920-1967. Instead we got the Hebron massacre and rapid fire wars. Any one who compares israel to s Africa , is obviously seeking headlines and has never opened a history book.
33. mike , uk # 11
Arnold ,   Montreal-Canada   (06.13.13)
The land was split in 1947. The Arabs refused to accept the split. They attacked. They lost. How is this supposed to work. if you do not succeeed the first time keep on trying. Well they did and they kept on losing. Finally Israel took land for themselves as well as a buffer. When the Arab people agree to sit down face to face , a deal will be struck. Till then Israel needs to go on living. And wait for the Arabs to make a deal.
34. Kol Hakavod to the MK
Avramele   (06.13.13)
The occupation not only corrupts the occupiers but as these comments attests drives them blind and mad - a new meaning to the phrase am haaretz.
35. #11
Harold ,   USA   (06.13.13)
Excellent comment but they never listen because of being extreme Zionist. Only sanctions can change their attitude. Hope peace loving nations listen and act a.s.a.p.
36. Selah and the anti-Israel U.N. envoy FALK
Abraham ben Jacob ,   Canada   (06.13.13)
Selah must have been influenced by the atrocious lies of envoy Falk.
37. Israelis, how do you elect guys like this.
leo ,   usa   (06.13.13)
38. This man is with Yesh Atid.!. Lost my vote
Adi ,   Zurich   (06.13.13)
This man is with Yesh Atid.!. Lost my vote
39. Ofer the gopher.
michael Pielet ,   israel   (06.13.13)
ofer wants to create an arab terrorrist state in Judea and Samaria aligned with the terror state of iran. Ofer wants this terror state to be at the gates of Jerusalem and gush Dan. ofer supports the death, murder and maiming of Jews. The arabs living in Judea and Samaria remain citizens of Jordan and the arab nation. These arabs will have to exercise arab sovereignty in the 22 arab states.
40. 100% true
Dave from Brazil ,   Sao Paulo   (06.13.13)
Israel has everything needed to be a respectable country (democracy, medical and technologial advancementes, humanitarian activism) but unfortunately it chooses to continue negative activities such as occupation and settlements which only do it harm and isolate it from the international community. When will Israelis learn that their country is too small to be occupying Palestinian Arab land and incorporating more Palestinian citizens? How do they expect to live in a democratic, peaceful, and Jewish-majority state like this?
41. open letter to shelah
joemoer ,   iSrael   (06.13.13)
as an ex south african of white decent i would just like to imform you that your statement "Thinking the world will get used to this situation is similar to what white people used to say in South Africa." is totaly misinformed.Never once in my circle of friends,work colleagues or family did i ever hear that expression..it is an absolute insult and slander to former white south africans to say this is how we thought. i am so tired of so called experts likening the apartheid system of south africa to israel....to call israel an apartheid state is to insult millions of black south africans who grew up under apartheid...there is nothing in common between south africa and israel...israel does not discriminate by colour ..we have muslim judges,police,members of the defence force,doctors,technicians postman ,you name it ..that did not happen in south africa ...PLEASE stop comparing israel to south africa
42. what is MK Shelah Agenda?
Yardena   (06.13.13)
Those who protest “Israeli apartheid” usually have a noticeable lack of public indignation to express toward those countries and regions where real human rights violations are all too common. In Saudi Arabia, for example, freedom of religion, freedom of speech, and freedom of assembly simply don’t exist and women are second-class citizens (and that’s being generous). In Iran, politically motivated killings and kidnappings are common, ethnic and religious minorities harshly repressed, and freedom of the press is non-existent. In Zimbabwe, government security forces imprison, torture, and murder opponents. In Hamas-controlled Gaza, as well as parts of the West Bank controlled by the Palestinian Authority, a residual community of Christians is regularly harassed, intimidated, and even subject to murder by radical Islamists. During 2009, the regimes in both Gaza and Saudi Arabia expressed their approval of crucifixion as a punishment under the law. But those who protest “Israeli apartheid” are silent about all that. Why? Because their real agenda is not to improve the plight of Palestinians, but rather to attack Israel. The “apartheid” slur is just another tool for Israel’s enemies to delegitimize and undermine the Jewish state’s right to exist. The comparison of Israel, the Middle East’s only democracy, to the brutal discrimination of a fallen, evil regime is false. Those who offer it simply reveal their own agenda.
43. Good for you Shelah
Giora Me'ir   (06.13.13)
44. Israelis can be their own worst enemies
Sidney ,   USA   (06.13.13)
You cannot make peace with people determined to wipe you out. Israel is not an apartheid state. How many times has anyone accused China of being an apartheid state for occupying Tibet or Russia for occupying Chechnya? Fools like Shelah are just repeating Palestinian propaganda. The Palestinians are loved only by certain political and "intellectual" (by their own definition) elites not by anyone else. Any treaty signed by Abbas would be worthless, he is no more president of Palestine than George W. Bush is president of the USA. His term ended several years ago.
45. What is truly scary is the fact, that people like Shelah get
tom ,   tel aviv   (06.13.13)
voted into Knesset as members of a Jewish party, particularly one that purports itself to be a "middle of the road" one: Yesh Atid, a misnomer if there ever was one! I know of well educated, serious, patriotic Israelis, that have fallen for Yair's cannard. The "occupation" mantra of the lunatics to the left combined with the Apartheid blood-libel is an example of mass hysteria based on Stockholm Syndrome gone wild in a mass population. It is beyond contempt and deserves to be ridiculed and pointed out as a manifestation of Judeo-Quisling Syndrome. On a more basic (and to the point) level: Shelah is an idiot.
46. #11 mike
solomon ,   bklyn   (06.13.13)
No matter how you dress it up, beliefs do not trump facts. The “legal niceties” also include the facts that the arabs will not accept a Jewish country in their midst. They run from any agreement, no matter how generous. They have to stop wanting to, and trying to, kill all the Jews. It’s that simple.
47. Like South Africa?
Ros ,   Tel Aviv   (06.13.13)
Shelah have you ever visited or lived in South Africa - you have no idea what you are talking about!!!!!
48. Israel into South Africa? Perhaps Ofer Shelach to MK
Ilan   (06.13.13)
He isn't grubbing for ratings anymore, now he has to actually justify being in the Knesset. When pigs fly so will he.
49. cant understand israel
el turco ,   istanbul, turkey   (06.13.13)
hello im a turk and feel for arabs mostly because of my nations muslim ties eventhough im personally an atheist, but understand few yet some aspects of the zionist ideal. what i don't understand is the hunger for land/soil. japan has had a population problem for a long time, its 80+ million people is too much for its land. although they tried it before, they don't say right now in 2013 - lets invade ourselves some chinese soil! what do they do? build skyscrapers. i see israel is very good with technology generally, cant see why you guys would be unsuccesful at architecture! so how about less invasion and more architectural advancements for a change, huh? if you cant see the sense in this, then you want palestinian land for nationalistic, racist, etc reasons, not for sensible ones, or you have some capitalistic interest in the real estate market. yes my jewish brothers, good morning, people make money off of yours and mostly palestinan arabs' misery. this is all real estate manipulation probably by some american conglomerates of jewish descent which use being jewish to con you and your trust but just care about money. i see a very creepy atmosphere in israel and its politics, and i'm in turkey. so try to imagine how bad you guys look. you're supposed to be like an european democracy shining in the middleeast, but look the opposite. you are in competition with oppressive saudi arabia etc for being a bad country. i understand that worldwide jewish community have become more nationalistic after world war 2 as a defense mechanism to prevent something like that ever happening again, but try not to become too nationalistic and ending up the bad guys. have a nice day. peace!
50. #16 is right
Andi ,   Israel   (06.13.13)
That's the issue. The majority of Israelis according to election results and poles don't agree with subjugating Palestinians, don't agree with expanding settlements, and in principle support landwithdrawal and 2 states. BUT it won't happen unilaterally because Israel will get rockets on Ben Gurion airport the next morning from Hamas , and any agreement will be worth no more than the paper its written on. The Palestinian leadership won't allow us to end the occupation even if most of us want to.
51. what an ignoramus
Ilana   (06.13.13)
If only he knew enough to know how very far S.A. and Israel are in comparison. Next he will be one of those hateful people who say \Israel is like the nazi party or something insane. SHame on him.
52. #14 There already could have been 2 states,
A ,   Belgium   (06.13.13)
but the high and mighty UK decided to plant her Hashemite puppet in Trans-Jordan. Britain is LAST in line to voice an opinion over the subjication of other peoples, you are STILL doing it even after your empire has withered away.
53. The Palestinians are the Occupiers!
Benny ,   Iran   (06.13.13)
Pals are the "true occupiers. " These former Bedouins have been sneaking into Israel for many years, just like they are doing today from Sudan, etc. They all were escaping from evil leaders throughout history. Look at Libya, Iraq,Syria,Iran.... Nobody can stand to live there anymore. They run away and settle in Israel ,looking for a better life. Then they call the Israelis settlers, You need to get the facts straight and tell it to the world.
54. I would be ashamed for displaying such ignorance
Daniel ,   TA - IL   (06.13.13)
but then again, facts and intelligence never were the characteristics of the left... underbelly populism which is a direct result of ignorant arrogance and jewhating... My god if somone imposes apartheid it is arabs by their aggression towards jews even willing to impose by murder. Another sign that yesh atid is an eu funded tool to bring disarray and destruction to the jewish state.
55. he doesn't have the right to kick people out of their homes
Scott ,   Ramat Gan,, Israel   (06.13.13)
Shelah is talking about kicking hundreds of thousands of Jews out of their homes. No one has called for the eviction of any Arabs, & no peace settlement has ever called for the mass expulsions he wants. Jews have the right to live in Yesha.
56. Shelah never allows the facts to confuse him
Zev ,   Israel   (06.13.13)
There are so many facts that completely challenge his agenda that I am surprised he is not embarrassed.
57. #49 Comparing Japan to Israel is ridiculous
A ,   Belgium   (06.13.13)
Japan is surrounded on 4 sides by water, Israel is surrounded on 3 sides by hostile arab countries. And don't mention "peace treaties with Egypt and Jordan", as long as the gullible US keeps pumping them money, neither country will turn militarily against Israel...for now. Do not forget also, that since 1945, Japan has not been involved in any wars and therefore doesn't need to invest more than 50% of its GNP on defense as Israel does. If Israel had respectable neighbors, who can imagine how much more she could have achieved. And before you start judging Israel with your vaguely hidden hatred, give freedom and independence to the KURDS, they deserve independence too, right? Turkey is well on its way to becoming the second Syria. Guess Erdogan wants to be head butcher. And one more point, next time there is a devastating earthquake in Turkey, I hope it isn't Israel that is first to jump and send help. Try counting on your moslem friends for that.
58. RESIGN YOUR SEAT NOW !!
Shadoil ,   Jerusalem   (06.13.13)
59. According to International Law, Israel is
Larry ,   Or Yehuda   (06.13.13)
not an occupying nation. This is the kind of person that Yesh Atid brings? Someone who has no idea what he is talking about.
60. Shelah there is no comparison because
Tom   (06.13.13)
As a black South African who lived under apartheid, ...in my view, Israel cannot be compared to apartheid in South Africa, Those who make the accusation expose their ignorance of what apartheid really is. Under South African apartheid, which was "a legal system of segregation and oppression based on skin color," black people such as himself could not vote, freely travel, or hold high government positions. Furthermore, they were subjected to segregation everywhere from pubic restrooms to schools to hospitals. In my numerous visits to Israel, I did not see any of the above. "Black, brown and white Jews and the Arab minority mingle freely in all public places, universities, restaurants, voting stations and public transportation. All people have the right to vote. The Arab minority has political parties, serves in the Israeli parliament (Knesset) and holds positions in government ministries, the police force and the security services. In hospitals, Palestinian patients lie in beds next to Israeli Jews, and doctors and nurses are as likely to be Israeli Arabs as Jews. ...None of the above was legally permissible in apartheid South Africa!" It is slanderous and deceptive to make such accusations against Israel as doing so trivializes the word apartheid, minimizing and belittling the magnitude of the racism and suffering endured by South Africans of color. In conclusion, is a model of democracy, inclusion and pluralism that can be emulated by many nations, particularly in the Middle East.
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