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Rabbi Stav attacked by haredi teens
Akiva Novick
Published: 17.06.13, 13:09
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31. RCA backs R. Stav. A priori, Diaspora Orth rabbis "evil"
Logician ,   Israel   (06.18.13)
Now ALL non-Haredi Orthodox conversions "not recognized"
32. 27 Atheists don't need arguments...
ORA ,   JERUSALEM   (06.18.13)
to confirm their non-belief in G-D. Moreover ,no arguments can make them change their mind. Einstein said that no theory [in this case,Judaism or Atheism] is fully proved without experimentation. Only by daring, even a shy try , one can know if it works for him.
33. Rabbi Yosef should be arrested for incitement to violence
Eric ,   Tel Aviv & NY   (06.18.13)
Rabbi Yosef should be arrested for incitement to violence for his speech. Men of power need to know when and how to use it carefully, and calling someone evil is incitement to violence
34. Where words said for a good cause...
ORA ,   JERUSALEM   (06.18.13)
has unforeseen consequences ,namely inciting children's hate . Please teach now those hooligan's in herbe to refrain from hate . Remember them Hilel's teaching: "Veahavta at reeha kamoha". Children are Israel's future.
35. 34 Ora
Robert ,   Antwerp Belgium   (06.18.13)
Words... for a good cause. Do I understand you correctly that you think you can judge one rabbi being greater than the other to the point that he can utter words of hatred and curse?
36. 35 Robert,who am i to judge Rabbis?
ORA ,   JERUSALEM   (06.19.13)
i study the book of Hafetz haim about "lashon Hara". It is allowed to blame somebody under certain conditions,if it is done with the goal to avoid harm. I think Rav Ovadia knows better than i which are those conditions. It seems that Rav Ovadia is a "Gadol Hador"
37. cynical power play
Steve   (06.19.13)
Power politics disguised as religion to confound the brainwashed amongst you.
38. Ora Who declared Rav Oavdia
Yerach ,   Jerusalem,Israel   (06.19.13)
To be a gadol? Years ago he was nothing but a puppet of Rav Shach who was just as coarse as Rav Ovadia. What was Rav Shach's claim to fame? He was a nobody until he slandered & smeared the Lubavitcher Rebbe,ZT"L & HaRav Yosef Dov Soloveitchick,ZT"l who did far more to save generations from assimilation & preserved Orthodox Jewry. These 2 (Yosef & Shach) with their hatred & slander did more to alienate Jews than they helped. I'll take the Rebbe & Rav Soloveichick over the 2 hatemongers any day.
39. Gadol idiot you mean
Reuven ,   Netanya   (06.19.13)
They should throw him in jail and let him rot. And if you agree with his deeds, feel free to join him. Don't you have nothing better to do with your mind, Instead of blindly following a retarded senile man?
40. 36 Ora
robert ,   antwerp belgium   (06.19.13)
The conditions you quote do not allow to defame another Rabbi or person on the basis of hearsay. I don't think wether a Gadol hador would behave that way
41. 40 Robert,things are not always...
ORA ,   JERUSALEM   (06.19.13)
as they seem at first sight. Only after having studied Tora thoroughly we can judge this matter. Ask a great rabbi what he thinks about that.
42. 41 Ora. immunity
Robert ,   Antwerp Belgium   (06.19.13)
Does it mean that when a person gains the reputation of being a great Rabbi, he can say or do whatever he wants and you will accept this? What do you think about what Rav Obadia said about the six million Jews that were killed in the holocaust? That they were souls of sinners that were revived in the bodies of those slaughtered. Do you think your grandparents, maybe your parents and so on were all sinners and deserved to die? Who is Rav Obadia that he put himself as judge?
43. please be critical of the sensationalized news stories
(06.20.13)
I wish that the media would be more careful in their descriptions of these stories. I am of the opinion that these Anti-Chareidi stories (WOW attacks at the Kotel, attacks on soldiers, gender segregation on busses) are exagerated the majority of the time. How many "charedi teens" were involved in this incident 2, 20 or 1,000. And why write a story about a few misdirected individuals as if it represents tens of thousands of people. I find many of these news reports to be highly sensationalized and purposely trying to judge an entire people on the behavior of a few. It is almost as if have learned the strategies of anti-Chareidi from those who have used the media to take the bad behavior of a few Jews to judge 6 million.
44. Welcome to the Jewish Taliban
Rich ,   Las Vegas, USA   (06.20.13)
It's sickening to hear and read about how a core of self righteous Ultra Orthodox Jews are telling their flock who is a jew and who is not. By your disgusting logic, I'm not even Jewish although both my mother and father are jews as is everyone on both sides of my family. Just because we don't pray when we get up, or spend our entire lives in shul, your kind says we are not jews. It is those who think like you who will cause a civil war in Israel. Reformed Jews are Jews, Conservative Jews are also Jews. The Orthodox do not have a monopoly on who is and who is not a jew
45. 42 Robert,These are words out of ...
ORA ,   JERUSALEM   (06.20.13)
context. Why don't you bash Einstein,for one of his inventions ,who gave birth to the atom bomb,a mass killing machine ? The answer is,because we evaluate a person for all his achievements. What do you know about Rav Ovadia? Only what is written in anti-Haredi articles? If you want to be taken seriously,you should have more information ,when commenting about him. Concerning the Shoa,everybody can make his own conclusions.Only G-D knows the TRUTH. Let us move on in the right direction,trying to understand each other,even if we do not always agree,we can live in harmony and so be a strong Am Ehad.
46. 45 Ora I'm sure...
robert ,   antwerp belgium   (06.20.13)
that Rav Obadia Yossef has a lot of good deeds. Stil, if even Moshe rabeinu, David the king and the talmidim of Rabi Akiba could sin, Rav Obadia Yossef is certainly not immune. But, like you say, it's not upon us to judge. In Pirkei avot it's said you have to judge favorably your follow man . it seems to me that Rav Stav was not judged that way by the haredim. So ok to move in the right direction and let's see if haredi, national religious, conservative and reform Rabbis can meet for the good of am Israel
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