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Minister: Netanyahu against settlement freeze
Attila Somfalvi
Published: 30.06.13, 08:25
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1. Doesn't Kerry ....
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (06.30.13)
.... have anything better to do than bully Israel at the behest of Hussein Obama? Obama is not going to write his way into the history books at Israel's expense. He is destined for the history books anyway, as the worst American president ever. The president who presided over two reductions in the bond rating of the United States and the president who sat back as the Middle East -- and loyal American allies -- caught flame and burned. Hussein Obama's problem is that Israel has nothing but contempt for him. So, for that matter, do most thinking Americans. The man is a fraud and a phony. And he STILL hasn't given his Nobel Prize winnings to charities, as promised. But that wouldn't be his first and only lie, would it? Obama has done his level best to drag the United States through the mud. He's succeeded remarkably. But if he thinks he can do the same thing with Israel, he had better think again. Israel knows Obama's dirty tricks, and Israel knows Obama's even dirtier secrets. He would do well not to push Israel too far. Israel has the proof that will impeach him. Of that I am certain.
2. Pals think they are doing everyone a favour entering talks
Sam ,   Canada   (06.30.13)
Palestinians are the ones looking to change the status quo but they think they are doing everyone a favour entering talks and should be rewarded for doing so. Maybe if the US stopped behaving like such doormats instead of the super power they are supposed to be Palestinians would show them a little more respect. Rather than being the Secretary of State, Kerry looks like the groveler in chief of some petty gangsters.
3. Come on! who are they trying to fool?
Ilan ,   Ramat Gan, Israel   (06.30.13)
so we accept your pre-conditions! 1)we declare to the world a freeze in settlement construction. 2)we release terrorists, some with blood on their hands 3)we withdraw back to the 67 borders! now what? you got all that you wanted before the negotiations even start! what stops you from coming to the negotiating table, sitting, sipping water from your cup, raising your middle finger at the Israeli delegation, and then just walk out. Next thing we know you are within walking distance to tel-aviv, our safety and existence is put in danger again and we are forced to build a much loooonger wall, to which you will again cry about, and launch rockets over them! That's not negotiating! We are not the fools you take us for! we are not naive like that american Jew who got himself killed in Egypt! (wow i feel bad for saying that, but its true!) save your scams for the naive, not us!
4. Move ahead!
Ed ,   USA   (06.30.13)
Netanyahu won't agree to a freeze, because if there were any real negotiations he'd have to confront giving up territory. So by insisting on a freeze, he can shift blame to the Palestinians. Mr. Kerry, make it clear that this has to occur! Don't let Netanyahu wiggle out of responsobility this time. And if this coalition can't get the job done without dissolving, get on the the next government.
5. Well written
dov ,   united States   (06.30.13)
Good news. Take a stand we must.
6. Kerry the camel salesman
Dror ,   Haifa, Israel   (06.30.13)
I have some used camels I would like to offer you...
7. Why the urgency?
Dror ,   Haifa, Israel   (06.30.13)
Can it be that the Saudis are threatening Obummer again? Could it be to distract from the war in Syria? Could it be to distract from the global financial crisis? Could it be all of the above?
8. there will be no pre-conditions
CJK   (06.30.13)
there might be new negotiations, but no pre-conditions.
9. 7 Dror
C   (06.30.13)
the saudis are not in a position to threaten anyone. they are in the fight of their lives against shia uprising in the oil rich south and east.
10. So it is for all the other reasons
Dror ,   Haifa, Israel   (06.30.13)
If the Saudis need a distraction in the mid east they used to always go to Israel and the Arab-Israeli conflict. Now they created the biggest distraction is Syria. The American and European news media always went along to conspire with them as they are now. After all the oil is the only thing that the west really cares about. Let us stop pretending.
11. C
Dror ,   Haifa, Israel   (06.30.13)
True, they are in the fight of their lives. Prince Bandar openly stated that he wants Israel to attack Iran so that Saudia would not be indicted by the world for asking America to protect her. The House of Saud holds Obummer by the balls. It is the Petrodollar agreement that he has to make good on. Amerika is Saudi Arabia's body guard, hence the war in Syria and Obummers support of the Saudi led rebels. We are not as naive as we were during the Clinton administration. Kerry can get back on his camel and ride into the mideast sunset.
12. Equal Rights for Gaza's Jews!
Aviva ,   Tel Aviv   (06.30.13)
...Oh, wait, I forgot. There are no Jews in left in Gaza - like everywhere else in the region that Muslims have taken over, Jews were expelled. Does anyone really think that the West Bank would be any different?
13. Freeze Kerry did you do your homework
Martin ,   SA   (06.30.13)
Freeze Kerry did you do your homework Freeze means we are illegal squatters in Yehuda and Shomron and Jerusalem and maybe in Tel Avibv. We are not planning to move out or being moved out. Not by Abbass and by the tenuous fractured Arab Leugue. The AL is dysfunctional whilst Sunni and Shiites are in their spring battle thanks to the encouragement of the west. Kerry you messed up by accepting Abbas rhetoric on settlers. To go 4th time and say no concessions now is demeaning. The reality is no conditions if you dont understands whats happening rather stay home. Mr Kerry you allowed a stall on visit 3. With your skill you should realise every visit Abbass will find another reason stall. The reality is no arab or muslim who wants to live would negotiate as some political faction will be upset enough to ease a knife in his back, a real one or whatever, form of execution style suits the occasion. They after all is said and done cannot negotiate even of Jaffa without breaking the Charter. If you are humble enough to go back a 4th time you still wont find a negotiator in site Try your luck. 242 says negotiate and if they and Abass want to accept that no concessions are appropriate. Then start move from talk & talk …. And move on to real negotiations.
14. 242 negotiate is AbC and 1&1=2 no cocessions
Martin ,   SA   (06.30.13)
Oh yes there is a concession. Wen negotiating the negotiators can insist on still water and or coke a cola pepsi and or sprite even with a zero. Lighting yes canles or strobe lights or what ever. Venue can be in Moscow Genneva or perhaps demascus No other concessions. Yes...
15. 11 Dror
CJK   (06.30.13)
you are assuming that he has balls. I assume that he has his pet personal agendas which are independent of the black rock and its worshipers. he will always do as he wants. he surrounds himself with totally unqualified people so that he can do as he wants. what would lisa moniaco, the counterterrorism advisor do to advise him when all she did was work for head of fbi for two years? the man has insulated himself from all outside influence and purges those who do have balls.
16. Peace-for-Peace, through direct talks, without any...
Jehudah Ben-Israel ,   Qatzrin, Israel   (06.30.13)
...preconditions, and based strictly on UN Security Council Resolution, 242, 1967. Anyone who doesn't wish to proceed with peace talks within this context is clearly not interested in peace, and should be dealt with accordingly...!!
17. All American Efforts Have Failed
Mark of Lewiston ,   USA   (06.30.13)
It is hard to understand why the US keeps trying. No American effort has ever succeeded. Neitther side wants a resolution as much as the US does. Better the US should just give our annual credit aid to Israel, and cut all contact and funding for the PA. They will do their thing. Israel will seize their tax revenues and take back all governing when the PA collapses. Then what happens is no US business and the US can deny any further responsibility or interest.
18. # 1 Go back to Brooklyn
Kobi Martin ,   Tel Aviv   (06.30.13)
Hey, number 1, Obama and Kerry are doing a fantastic work to bring peace to our lives. We, TRULY Israeli JEWS want peace, want to have a future for our children, want to be normal as any other country, without boycotts, without hostility. Kerry is doing his best to approach to enemy peoples. He is right. Then, from a darkness and sulfurous hole in Brooklyn we listen voices against peace, preaching hate and war. Stay there. Don't come to our beloved Israel and don't mess in our issues. If you don't like Obama, go to the streets, vote Republican, but leave us here, TRULY ISRAELIS to manage our problems, our routine. Leave us alone.
19. Peace Negotiations Formula?!
Son Of Cyrus ,   UK   (06.30.13)
Is this the formula they are trying to agree to start peace talks? 1) Israel defines its ideal borders, the same as PA has defined its borders as being 1967 armistice lines. 2) Israel frees prisoners who do not have blood on their hands or have committed a criminal act against Israelis. 3) Israel halts new settlements however, can build in existing areas. 4) PA gives up the right of return. 5) PA recognizes Israel as the homeland of the Jewish Nation State and modifies its charter accordingly. ======================================= If not, it will be a complete waste of time! - in my humble opinion. =======================================
20. #11 CJ
Dror ,   Haifa, Israel   (06.30.13)
Obama is afterall Nasi Gog. His name appears several times in the bible codes as Nasi Gog. We have much to expect from this usurping sham president. God will anhilate him when he decides to openly turn on Israel. He will openly turn on us. It is a matter of time. The man's star is falling fast. He will turn on the Jews. It is becoming so obvious.
21. To: No. 18
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (06.30.13)
You are truly delusional. The ersatz "Palestinians" are not in the least bit interested in peaceful coexistence with Israel; they are interested exclusively in supplanting Israel. There are approximately thirty organizations, each of which purports to be the sole true representative of the ersatz "Palestinian" people. The common thread among them? Each of their charters calls for the destruction of the State of Israel, and the expulsion and/or extermination of the Jewish people. Crawl back under your bridge, you silly little boy. Leave the political debate to the people who have the requisite intellect. That includes me but, alas, it does not include you. I don't live in Brooklyn, by the way. Just more of your silly nonsense, assuming that all Jewish people in New York live in Brooklyn. Would you be surprised to learn that most do not?
22. Kobi, you are a naive lightweight
Dror ,   Haifa, Israel   (06.30.13)
The same America that you want as a peace negotiator and arbitor is the same America that sent the USS Liberty and all of her sailors to their deaths at the hands of our IDF fall guys in 67. Study history, the USS Liberty was Johnson's dirty work based on Project Northwoods FALSE FLAG OPS. America's government is DEFINITELY not to be trusted. The entire incident put a stain on our militray and our men and it was all America's handi work. Shanda. People like you are naive and foolish. You believe you understand something, YOU UNDERSTAND NOTHING.
23. Sounds like an international best selling novel.
BUILD BABY BUILD!!!! ,   United States   (06.30.13)
Only thing I would hope for is that Israel exposes this muslim favoring fraud and expose him and his dirty secrets as impeachment is sounding like music from heaven. Just do it already America's hurting due to this idiot, not to mention our only trusted ally in the ME, Israel. KEEP BUILDING. Makes obama and saudi king madder than hell..
24. Sounds like an international best selling novel.
BUILD BABY BUILD!!!! ,   United States   (06.30.13)
Only thing I would hope for is that Israel exposes this muslim favoring fraud and expose him and his dirty secrets as impeachment is sounding like music from heaven. Just do it already America's hurting due to this idiot, not to mention our only trusted ally in the ME, Israel. KEEP BUILDING. Makes obama and saudi king madder than hell..
25. # 17 Good idea Mark
BUILD BABY BUILD!!!! ,   United States   (06.30.13)
Cut off all aid to the murderous pals. Jordan is their official home anyway. KEEP BUILDING!!!!
26. # 19 Not gonna happen dude.
BUILD BABY BUILD!!!! ,   United States   (06.30.13)
pals have no legitimacy at all in Israel. Why? Israel "THE HOMELAND FOR THE JEWSH PEOPLE." THAT'S WHY. The terrorists pals can go to hell for all most people think. Jordan is the pals home, go home and stay there you mutant would be sub human shit. KEEP BUILDING !!!!!
27. # 18 Nobi Martin Back Sar has duel citizenship you nut job.
BUILD BABY BUILD!!!! ,   United States   (06.30.13)
Israel is for JEWS!!!! Sarah B is a Jew with duel citizenship. She must aggravate the hell out of you pals.. She's smart, knowledgable, and has the facts whereas, you have zero, zip, nada, nothing. Whether or not Sarah posts, you pals are losers more times than we can count. It wasn't helpful to your cause to employ terror ( using your own teens as suicide bombers, blasting cafes and buses, aiming for women and kids ) In short, you have no real support except for other illegal pals and squatters on Israel's land. Time to move bucko. Adios, goodbye, fon't let the door hit 'ya where the good Lord split ya.. Israel KEEP BUILDING !!!!!
28. #18, I agree, you are delusional!
Israeli ,   Haifa   (06.30.13)
First of all, do not presume to speak for Israelis. Second, what drug are you taking to believe that Obama and Kerry are working hard, let alone to bring Israel peace???? They don't give a rats pitutti about peace in our region. They work for OIL and for fame. Kerry only aim is to be THE Foreign Secretary who brought Middle East peace and so does Obama, want to be THE World Leader who brought Middle East peace. Get a clue # 18.
29. 25 Planning a Coup?
Mark of Lewiston ,   USA   (06.30.13)
Who do you plan on governing Jordan in Abdullah's absence? He won't agree and Israel would never give control to Palestinians. Plan on good relations with the new neighbors, Iraq and Syria on the North and East? Kerry has failed and so has Netanyahu and Abbas. Celebrate if you like. Jordan is not going to solve your problem for you.
30. a comment
israel israeli ,   tel aviv   (06.30.13)
This article and Talkbacks are irrelevant. The fact is that Netanyahu has imposed a complete but unannounced building freeze on Judea, Samaria and Jerusalem but is encouraging rampant Arab building in these areas. Why? Some people say Netanyahu is paying Obama to attack Iran (something that won't happen) Others say that Netanyahu wants to create a new Arab state in Judea and Samaria without negotiations.
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