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Precedent for Palestinians only
Merav Betito
Published: 01.07.13, 10:48
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1. Merav, I agree with you that the entire Israeli
Israeli 2   (07.01.13)
justice system needs to be thrown out and replaced by a true and honest Torah court system dictated by compassion but real justice. As long as Moshe Katzav is not vindicated and people like you only defend Arabs, you are all corrupt.
2. Any affluent Israeli...
Vlad   (07.01.13)
Jew or not Jew, in fact, any affluent person in the world, would probably never be convicted in the first place. They'd just hire a top lawyer to get them acquitted, or to negotiate a plea bargain involving a slap on the wrist.
3. I could not agree more!
Jason green ,   Ra'anana   (07.01.13)
I have never liked you meirav.. However this article is short sweet and straight to the point the truth... Hopefully courts will learn here to stop plea bargaining and hand down harsh sentences for violent crimes including rape.. And murder!!
4. Possibly one of the most disgusting opinion pieces ever
Miracle Dog ,   Israel   (07.01.13)
Hidden away in the article - a token "I'm not trying to defend Jaber" paragraph. So what are you doing? Making glib generalizations about Israeli society to help you deal with your self-hate complex?
5. Shall we forbid movies of all movie stars
Miron ,   USA   (07.01.13)
who got their roles by giving sexual favors then? I am not sure even Teletubbies will survive this high a bar. If you think it will help to raise morals, I am all for it. Even if we end up disconnecting the TVs. By the way, don't by silly. You are definitely "defending Jaber". In fact you clearly stated that unless we get as even handed as angels we are racists. And to disprove you that we are not I offer to bring things in order in one clean sweep. Go... Start with Fantomas and move on to Sherbur's Umbrella... the world is waiting for your brand of "justice" with open arms.
6. Israel is a State for Jews whether they behave or not
Kalman   (07.01.13)
After all we're all brothers and some are bad. On the other hand, GUESTS who want to live in the Jewish State have to conduct themselves properly or else their punishment will be very severe. If they don't like the rules, they can go home.
7. The author is correct
Sagi   (07.01.13)
Rape is second only to murder and should carry a mandatory life sentence together with chemical sterilization, no chance of parole and no mitigating circumstances, irrespective of the perpetrator's ethnicity, citizenship or social background.
8. totally off base
israel israeli ,   tel aviv   (07.01.13)
Betito is off base, to put it mildly. Can she point out a rape that was similar where the criminal got off easily? I can only think of the Shomrat rape, but then the rapists were Leftists. Betito should compare the punishment Jews get for attempted murder (15 years, no parole) compared to the punishment Arabs get for murder (2-10 years) The problem is not Arab vs. "affluent Israeli Jew", it is Leftists have more rights than Arabs who have more rights that Haredi/ religious / zionists.
9. Not getting the point
Big Al ,   Zichron Yaacov   (07.01.13)
This was a real sadistic crime, where, if I understand correctly, all kinds of acts were carried out on the victims. To be honest I would rather see the guy get five years in an Israeli jail than thirty in a Jail filled with Palestinians where he will be given some kind of political status and protection.
10. Kalman, Jews in other countries are equal in laws
Goy immigrant ,   Israel   (07.01.13)
So don't speak nonesense. Jews and non Jews should have the same sentences regardless of their religion otherwise it's called Apartheid. Stop whinning.
11. No1 NEVER !
(07.01.13)
that ain't gonna happen dear ! Israel is not going to be like Iran
12. I shed no tears
Bubastis ,   colombia   (07.01.13)
As opposed to what? A Palestinian court? They would have convicted the victims....
13. Disgraceful analysis of rape and its affects on society
rachel ,   tel aviv israel   (07.01.13)
This op-ed piece should never have been written. Not only does it do a tremendous disservice to the victims who will bear lifelong scars of their attack, but it appears to justify the act itself by disguising it as a comment on society as a whole. This was a brazen terror attack and the female victim was correct in asking the court to treat it as such. The male victim was also sexually assaulted and then forced to watch his friend being raped at knifepoint. This case involves two victims and 15 years for each offense seems light in my opinion. Life imprisonment would have been better. Too bad this did not happen in Texas where they kill people for what Jaber did to his two victims. As long as left wing nutjobs try to justify every single act as a societal ill or attempt to prove that society is to blame and someone's socioeconomic status indicates the severity of their sentence, they are committing another kind of rape and getting away with it.
14. All Rapists Should Be Executed (end)
David ,   Minneapolis, USA   (07.01.13)
15. A JEW IN SAUDI ARABIA WOULD SURE GET A FAIR TRIAL.
Nowhere Man ,   Metropolis, Zion.   (07.01.13)
Provided he is not beheaded right at the doorstep of his plane.
16. We can simply wait for the next court case and see what puni
tom ,   tel aviv   (07.01.13)
shment is handed down. Unfortunately we will not wait long.
17. what?!
nadav ,   tlv   (07.01.13)
First of the all, the rape was, as the female victim made clear (read her statement and give voice to the victims of rape, not the perpetrator!), a hate crime against her as a "Jew." This rapist also sexually violated her boyfriend! the 80% of rapes you mention are terrible, and yes occur frequently among acquaintances, but rarely do they involve the rape of a couple at the same time! The rapist should have gotten the electric chair- too bad we don't have that here in Israel!
18. #1 The Torah law
Larry ,   Or Yehuda   (07.01.13)
And who would be the judges? The rabbis? Give the Jewish people a break and drop that now.
19. her data is wrong, 80% do not know the victims
ghostq   (07.01.13)
and boys r also victims to pedophiles, women can also rape, too many female school teachers "fall" inlove with minor students. and this trial can set president in other rape trials. so stop complaining.
20. to #10 not if you consider 4000 year old law in Israel
ghostq   (07.01.13)
at that time there was no currancy, jew who owned a debt had to "offer" himself to work for 2 years max, Edomite had to "offer' himself for 10 years max. with certain conditions.
21. Reply to #11:
Israeli 2   (07.01.13)
No name, Israel is going to be like Israel ought to be. Not with a corrupted court system like it is now. We are going to get Israel back for us Jews. Those like you who do not belong may leave soon - the sooner the better. I M Israeli 2 - unlike you.
22. The article is right concerning leftist,rich Tel Aviv
Rod ,   Fargo N.Dakota   (07.01.13)
Israelis.But they would throw the book at any Nationalist Jew
23. Bad comparison
Gershon Reed ,   Be'er Sheva, Israel   (07.01.13)
I assume the author is referring to Moshe Katsav, who was convicted solely on testimony and no forensic evidence. He should not have been convicted. Jaber on the other hand, was convicted with DNA evidence. If "A" was truely raped by Katsav, then she should have gone straight to the hospital and had a rape kit performed. Seems this didn't happen.
24. Author jumps to the wrong conclusions.
jrebecca ,   modiin   (07.01.13)
Firstly, rapists, who target victims they know, are generally less of a threat to society as a whole. Their crime, as serious as it is, generally is limited. A rapist like the Ga Ha'ir one, will rape more often, over a wider spectrum of society, and more viscous. Given a chance he is likely to eventually kill. Then she ignores that the rapist had additional motives, and was particularly vicious. That being said, ALL rapists, should be castrated and be tattooed on the forehead to warn society.
25. What About a Poor Israeli Jew?
David ,   Seattle   (07.01.13)
I note the author specifies an "affluent Israeli Jew." She also specifically notes her thesis only carries through for an Israeli Jew "who has above average socioeconomic status." In other words, she can only sustain her argument when the comparison is made to the Israeli elite. It doesn't hold true - or is fraught with difficulty - when the comparison is made to the average, and even more-so poor, Israeli Jews. The injustice is spelled out by her own specification! Its socioeconomic rather than ethnic.
26. Guilty is Guilty.
Bartley Kulp ,   Haifa, Israel   (07.01.13)
It does not matter how the verdict was obtained. Once someone is found guilty there are sentencing guidelines that are completely independent of the evidence or lack of. The sentancing standards should be equal to everybody across the board.
27. The punishment needs to fit the crime
Gee ,   Zikron Yaakov   (07.01.13)
In this one case it did. For the most part Jews are in fact punished more harshly than Arabs and are far more likely to face a trial. So yes he got a harsh sentence and all convicted rapists should as well.
28. Cowardly Liberal Author!!!
GHook93 ,   Chicago   (07.01.13)
"I am not trying to defend Jaber. God forbid." Um smokie YES YOU ARE! By coming out and attacking the sentence and ATTACKING JEWS, you are defending the horrendous act committed by these animal. Shame on you. Jews like you only make us weaker!
29. # 24 Rebecca
Sagi   (07.01.13)
You got that wrong. No need to mark their forehead. Their testicles should be hung out to dry as they watch and when this is over they should be given an injection.
30. In Iran
Raphael ,   Netanya   (07.01.13)
A Jew gets death penalty for having a muslim mistress. This happened to Daniel Mahgerefteh, 24, last december.
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