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IDF: Harassment of haredi soldiers reminiscent of Der Sturmer
Moran Azulay
Published: 01.07.13, 16:10
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1. Fantastic cartoon on the ICF, Israel Cantonist Forces
Manny   (07.01.13)
The description of the situation is super.
2. The Charedim in the army
Naor ,   USA   (07.01.13)
Will slowly become discouraged and will second guess their choice to serve in the IDF if this is allowed to continue. Then Israel will have only the police, and their poor enforcement of the law in the Charedi areas to blame.
3.  Heinous IDF worse than Satmars...
ORA ,   JERUSALEM   (07.01.13)
Harassing JEWISH soldiers in ISRAEL!
4. 3 Ora read the article correctly...
robert ,   antwerp belgium   (07.01.13)
it is haredim in their own neighbourhood who are harassing haredi soldiers and their families. SHAME
5. Just look at the cartoons
Sane   (07.01.13)
And you will see the 'Der Sturmer' comment is rubbish. However the pro-draftee's have been using language like 'parasites' which is exactly the same as that used in Der Sturmer
6. Dear Haredi Jews!
shira   (07.01.13)
Your place is not with us. You dont want to be part of our country, you don't want to contribute to it, you don't want to defend it (and please don't give me the bull about the prayers etc. because Israel continues to have constant conflict with its "peaceful" neighbors and many Jewish soldiers keep dying!). Your place is in the Gola, Brooklyn for example. There, you can live your segregated life and here, we can take a break from your leachy, hateful ways. Please, please LEAVE !
7. 3 Ora, are you showing your true soul...
robert ,   antwerp belgium   (07.01.13)
when you call the IDF heinous while the haredi soldiers were not victim from the army but were harassed by haredi neighbours? I am shocked!
8. Harassers are Herodim! Boethusians!
Paqid Yirmeyahu ,   netzarim.co.il   (07.01.13)
as are ALL who defend them!
9. Who is doing the harassing?
Isabella1709 ,   Tampa USA   (07.01.13)
Apparently I don't read well, I couldn't find it stated who is responsible. It seems to be Haredi but not clear.
10. # 3 Ora
Sagi   (07.01.13)
I have told you before that you are very naive. It is not the IDF or individual soldiers or commanders who are doing this, it is within the communities themselves, it is the Satmar leaders who instruct their flock to attack and deride those who choose to enlist.
11. #3 Worse than Satmar?
Surprised at you Ora   (07.01.13)
Surprised at you, Ora, for talking bad on charedim who are out there defending religious Jews! Do you know that it was the Chazon Ish (not the Satmar Rebbe) who strictly prohibited religious Jews from enlising in the IDF declaring it the 7th of the Aseret Hadibrot, the 10 Commandments.
12. # 6 Shira
Sagi   (07.01.13)
I agree with what you wrote, one exception, "dear" they are not, at least not to me.
13. Sagi , Ora is NOT naive
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (07.01.13)
but does NOT understand , or better , does not WANT to understand what is written .
14. #9 - FYI
A Jerusalemite ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (07.01.13)
"The IDF representative noted that "there is condemnation and aggressive speech on the haredi extremists' pashkevils (street posters). These expressions are meant to condemn them (the soldiers), remove them from the congregations, synagogues and neighborhoods in which they live. " Also "The police need to better deal with this. For example, I cannot understand why they don't patrol the streets to which haredi soldiers come home to."" Clear now?
15. 10 Sagi, did i misunderstood?
ORA ,   JERUSALEM   (07.01.13)
How could i think of Haredim spitting on synagogues ? That's inconceivable . Anyway i should not jump on conclusions. Thank you for your kind post,Sagi.
16. 11 Don't be surprised...
ORA ,   JERUSALEM   (07.01.13)
It is not the first mistake i made . I should think a little more before writing.
17. I agree with #1 as there are no swastikas on the photos
Moshe   (07.01.13)
It's not Der Sturmer but Cantonists, Russian grabbing children off the street to join their army and making them good goyim. Non-democratic Zionists Israel were always known to be like Communist Russia with the KGB lurking all over. This picture is just that. Nothing to prove it to be like Nazis.
18. 15 Ora, I also used to think...
Robert ,   Antwerp Belgium   (07.01.13)
that Rabbis and Yeshiva students could not behave badly. That's why I understand your refusal to see any wrongdoing emanating from haredim. Sadly enough , some do behave badly and because of the silence from the Rabbis, refusing to condemn one of their peers or students, their acts do reflect on a big majority of good people. So , please, try to be more evenhanded
19. It is easy to bash the Haredim
Sharon   (07.01.13)
Sometimes they deserve it. Like now. This internal conflict is necessary to weed out the ones that need to leave or have their social benefits completely stopped. They are not more Jewish than any other Jew just because they dress like eighteenth century shmos from eastern europe. They need to get it through their heads that they have a choice to contribute to Israel economically, militarily, and spiritually (I agree that prayer is a spiritual tool) or leave. We have enough problems with the parasitic "ersatz" Palis we don't need parasitic Haredim.. This is a good step to having them decide if they want to be a part of the country or not. If not, NO HELP, NO MONEY, NO HANDOUTS. NOTHING. If I am praying at the Kotel and you come begging to me while I am praying be sure that you keep a good two or three meters away from me..
20. my heart goes to the haredim who enlisted
chaya ,   central israel   (07.01.13)
to the IDF. i hope and pray they are not treated badly in their own homes when they come back from hard day training.
21. Robert 18
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (07.01.13)
You wrote : "....and because of the silence from the Rabbis , refusing to condemn one of their peers ...." You wrote the same thing as i did under Ovadia Yossef . OK ?
22. #19 Don't be so naive and gullible.
M   (07.01.13)
Haredim are the pillars of the State of Israel. If haredim leave, it's the end of Israel.
23. Pathetic - the left in Israel and USA
adam wolf ,   boston   (07.01.13)
The left in Israel as the Jewish Left in the USA is without boundaries as long as they achieve their objective. Pathetic that we have reached this stage….the common thread that they above all others know best………..
24. Re #6 & #12
boaz ,   chicago USA   (07.01.13)
How many idiots like you are in Israel? You are pathetic! you are part of the herd that was yesterday. As a secular Jew I find the way you speak about religious Jews ugly! May we be able to rid your filth from our People
25. Horrendous
Elka ,   Netanya   (07.01.13)
It is horrendous the behavior a Hareidi solder has to endure when he returns to his home. The Hareidi are fearful of their boys becoming less religious or non-religious while in the army! What do they think this behavior will do? If I was a Haredi boy and I saw my non-Hareidi comrades going home each Shabbat and being welcomed by friends and neighbors and I knew I had to change my clothes and sneak back into my house, for sure, I would have second thoughts about my religious choice. It is NOT the IDF that will force these boys to become Chiloni--it is the Hareidi!
26. M
Sharon   (07.02.13)
You are full of yourself. You assume too much. You are arrogant and egotistical. How many Haredim died in the Holocaust. They thought they were pure and righteous obviously they were not, If you believe in God I think you need to start becoming more humble.
27. Haredi have had own unit for many years
Gerard Herbert ,   Rutland Vermont   (07.02.13)
The Haredi Netzah Yehuda Battalion ‎ (also known as Nahal Haredi ) is a battalion in the Kfir Brigade of the Israel Defense Forces (IDF).
28. Hypocrites!
Az   (07.02.13)
Doesn't the Torah command Jews to join the army at 20!? Israel's already there - so if you think you live in a Jewish state then you should think that you should join the Jewish army. What's the alternative? Keep praying for this Messiah guy who's gonna come save the day while you sit around hoping? Sounds like a good way to get Jews to sit around hoping, while you plot an attack when they least expect it and are full of naive hope.
29. #23 What do haradim have to do w/"leftists"?
the nose ,   Israel   (07.02.13)
Haredim are neither leftists or rightists they will openly agree to support any coalition that grants them what they want, independently of political ideology.
30. #22: M, it is the Haredim who will
Runner1983 ,   USA   (07.02.13)
cause the end of Israel. They live under the military and economic umbrella of those Israelis who work and pay taxes, and who serve in the IDF. Due to the high growth rates of the Haredim, the societal model of Israel is not sustainable. Those who do not see this are blind.
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