If this is a such a good deal than why don't I see any profit oriented corporation lining up to get the contract are they stupid or what? ,...

2 billion contract signed in 2012 between israeli aerospace industries and lockheed martin for israel to install israeli technology in the f-35 fighter jet wings as well as assemble the entire wings on the f-35's in israel proper where israel already built the assembly line necessary for the above. refer yourself to the following web sites, yes, peer reviewed web sites, as follows: reuters.com aviationnews.eu deagel. com aviationtribune.com israelandstuff.com in the above articles about this subject and contract and according to lockheed martin's ceo, israel aerospace industries is to: invest and produce the required ADVANCED WING SYSTEM AND WING TECHNOLOGIES AND THEN ASSEMBLE THE ENTIRE WINGS ONTO THE F-35'S. the above contract was signed in 2012, last year and will start in 2015 in israel. and this is just one of many other contracts between the israeli aerospace industries company and lockheed martin, inc. your military also has billions of dollars contracts with israel military industries, inc. which israel produced the technology and body for the arrow, the iron dome and the the famous drone america was using in iraq and now in afghanistan. china just signed a 2 billion dollar contract with an israeli water desalination corporation to the tune of millions of dollars for israel to build a water desalination plant in china. so many others....but, you get my gist. you see, split, every profit oriented company abroad is heading to israel for its genius in water desalination, solar energy, military hardware and inventions, medical and biomedical innovations, etc.. start reading peer reviews, my friend. start reading so you won't make a total clueless moron of yourself. can you even read? do you even have a clue as to the term peer review magazines and publications? do you even know how to do research in anything? do you even know how to access the above information? i doubt it. but, hay, keep on ranting.

Cold War allies don't come cheap, if you're in the habit of actively dismantling alliances between regional states and the Soviet Union, in exchange for covering their losses of foreign aid from the USSR. That's what the US *did*, when Carter gave Egypt military aid along with Israel - the aid was part of Egypt's basic demand, and the deal *and* the USA's own basic regional principles promised no change to military balance and parity at any time. And what's also noteworthy is that the USA had been trying to basically buy Egypt off of the Soviets between 1950 and 1967, a time when Egypt enjoyed both Soviet military and fiancial aid along with US attempts to give the same, though Egypt only ever took the wheat, preferring the Soviets for the rest. And for the same reason, the USA gave Jordan aid since the early 50's. And then there were the funds to Greece. And to Turkey - part of the Truman Doctrine against Communist spread. Then we had the Marshall Plan - Great Britain, France, and West Germany being the main recipients. Then we have South Korea, the Guomindang regime in China, Japan, the Shah's Iran... Add regional economic interests (see: Oil. Also, gas) and a vast homegrown military industry that is always hungry for more business. Mix that all up, and you have the USA policy of tying client states to itself, much in the same manner the USSR did - one can argue it was at least more benevolent in the process, and the ends were good. But you did remind me of the dates, so I do stand corrected. Except I have to fire back that 1968 was Israel buying Mirage aircraft with cold, hard cash, the *loan* offer having been considered too severe in terms of interest - this was only "aid" in the sense that the USA was finally willing to sell actual combat vehicles to Israel at all. Real *aid* would only begin in the late 70's, after the Camp David accords. But let's see... donations are individual help, rather than government aid, so I fail to see the problem, or perhaps you wish it to be taxed since you don't like this particular donation destination? And loan guarantees? You do realize what *guarantees* are, right? It's a promise the USA makes that they'll cover Israel's international loans if they default, which allows Israel to get loans at better rates. Israel has yet to default on any loan it has taken, meaning US loan guarantees haven't cost the US taxpayer a single penny.

Like what? Every time I have nailed your bragging you jump to another topic. Be careful with the aviation subject because before I started working for myself I was working for Boeing and still have a friends there that use to work for Lockheed, Northrop Grumman and Martin Marietta - One more time, what do you have that we didn't 25 years ago? To save your breath name us some of 'your' inventions by patent numbers, or get lost ,... If the Iron Dome, David's Sling or Arrow (financed by US taxpayer) is the best system you can buy why don't we have it in Alaska or any west coast cities that are reachable by Russian, Chinese or N. Korean missiles?,...

AP Asociated Press - April 24, 2013 Google 'Israel to make wings for F-35 warplanes' pay attention to the date it was printed ,... Here how it's done, google 'U.S. and Israel agree to develop plan to boost trade' ,... It's a one way street. US companies are forced by lawmaker's to throw you a bone under the table if they want to get government contracts, tax brakes or subsidies for research, same crap with our purchases of 'your' junk - The wing deal didn't work ,... The F-35 is the product of the Joint Strike Fighter (JSF) program. JSF development is being principally funded by the United States. The United Kingdom, Italy, Netherlands, Australia, Canada, Norway, Denmark, and Turkey are part of the development program - Ooops, no Israel ;) ,...

How can you default on any of your loans that are paid off by US Congress before it's time to pay it off? Google 'Economist tallies swelling cost of Israel to US', 'Israel Has Never Repaid A US Loan', 'United States Foreign Aid Summary Chart' read and educate yourself, you're lousy hasbara goon ,...

US ones, I presume? Well, on a random search... 8,406,464, 7,791,006, 7,652,234, 7,584,045, 7,357,061, 7,485,862, 7,492,308, 7,495,198, 7,611,094, 7,714,261, 7,888,644, 7,961,386, 8,020,483, 8,091,482, 8,278,611, 8,402,767, 8,467,598. And that covers aviation, reactive armor, armaments, missiles, sensors of various forms... and that's just the publicly-patented things, rather than the classified stuff. Of course, if you go the USPTO and search for Israel, and then go searching for "Israel Patents" on Google, you'll find out that Israel is probably the biggest source of patents registered in the USA. Go on, then, talk to your friends in Lockheet-Martin - ask them which systems Israel provided to the unified F-35 project, and which ones Israel will be replacing with its own, superior systems when the plane arrives here.

Found Rense.com, with a word for word listing of your claims, pretty much. Congratulations, Split! Your standard for facts is the biggest conspiracy theorist in the United States, on par with 9/11 truthers and UFO sighting reports. And it's amusing to note that WRMEA and the late Richard H. Curtiss report basically the same notions, with Curtiss seemingly the direct source... and yet the late Curtiss seems to have massaged the figures to make his point, and makes no real references whatsoever to validate his claims, other than saying that Jewish or Jewish-bought congressmen are in charge of "masking" the spending. And here's the thing... loan grants, Split? These are not loans, you ninny. Loan *grants* by the US government mean, by definition, that another body provides the loan proper - private financial institutions, to be blunt. Private financial institutions do not forgive loans.. Nor do they hand out grants. Curtiss and those quoting him mistake rewrite reality by saying loan *guarantees* are direct government loans, which is not the case.

Most Orthodox Jews worked, work, and likely will work for a living, be it here or abroad. The balance sheet evens off, and Jews have an excess tendency of complaining and exaggerating when it comes to *other Jews*. Internal strife is pretty much part of our culture, by this point, sad as that may be. And as numerous historians noted over the years - attempts to secularize and join society in Eastern Europe, or even convert to Orthodox Christianity, changed very little beyond leaving said Jews bereft of *both* communities more often than not, so long as they maintained even some remote self-identification as Jewish. Jews were accepted when they ceased, utterly, to *be* Jews, by even the flimsiest meaning. And Nazi Germany didn't even see *that* as enough. Blaming everything? No, we don't "blame everything" on Antisemitism. But we do take note when it's there. Sadly, it's alive and thriving. And it's there quite often, masked as criticism. Except quite often, it's basically the old world, of lies and caricatures of humans as crooked-nosed evil midgets. We didn't invade, Split. Population shifts and nonviolent migrations are not *invasion* by any stretch of the word. Unless, that is, you define it as an attack against purity. The sanctity of race and culture against the malevolent Other. No one invades by merely existing in your immediate vicinity. Preservation of custom, religion, and language are not an act of war. But then, that's the real point of classic Antisemitism, going all the way back to the Roman Empire. The Jewish Other as an invader merely by existing, with his different values, and different beliefs, and different customs and language and culture... Can't have that, right, Split? The Jew is not malevolent, unless malevolence is equivalent with having less in common with you than you're normally used to. Add some traditional ignorant spite, based on folktales, religious bigotry, and so on... and what you're left with is reductionism. The Jews being less than human, easily categorized into set categories of the human condition. The Jews are lazy. The Jews are greedy. The Jews are exploiters. The Jews are rich by ill-gotten gains. The Jews are filthy, unwashed, disease-ridden and poor. The Jews are ignorant. The Jews are learned with dangerous ideas. The Jews are traitors, often betraying multiple opposing groups and ideologies at the same time. All at the same time. And *that*, Split, is classic Antisemitism. It cobbles together bits and pieces of excuses, which it uses to judge a whole people, a whole nation

how many times do i have to repeat myself and tell you to lay off google. do your research in peer reviewed publications, not on google. if you read magazines such as the economist, jane military, etc... you will see that what i told you about israel building the wing technology and assembly of the wing mechanism on the f-35's is accurate and noted by all these peer reviewed publications and by the ceo of lockheed martin himself. stop the google crap. it is not peer reviewed.

there is no reason to continuing to argue with a total moron and a clueless uneducated one at that. i have tried to give him fact based peer reviewed publications whose articles have included the exact same info that both of us are trying to relay to this idiot. to no avail! he's hopeless. just can't get it. claims that he worked for these companies himself is rather dubious. i don't believe any such companies will ever hire someone of this idiot's caliber. so, let us both just desist our back and forth in a totally hopeless situation, made more so, by an absolute ignorant, misread, uneducated individual who has limited knowledge except for hate ideologies, one sided arguments, lack of deductive reasoning abilities and a total array of posts that not only make no sense, but reflect such cluelessness and some very interesting conspiracy theories. can't win them all. this is why we have apples and oranges and idiots and well informed individuals. makes life a bit more interesting in the process to have this kind of "split verbiage entertainment", don't you think?

One is a bilateral trade pact, the other is a very recent opening of of the F-35 project to direct sub-contractors, after the pentagon publicly scorned Lockheed-Martin's manufacturing process. And Israel's a partner state in the JSF program. Not a more direct participant, since we were more interested in the F-22 originally, before Congress removed any chance of it being exported, but funny thing... we're also one of the first and biggest F-35 customers. Which is why, regardless of Israel's low-tier participation in the development, we're still getting a custom-made model, the F-35I, that will allow the installation of Israeli-made systems like Elbit Systems' electronic warfare suite. Oh, and not only did IAI win the wing manufacture contract, it's also rumored to play a role in a two-seater variant development.

One is a bilateral trade pact, the other is a very recent opening of of the F-35 project to direct sub-contractors, after the pentagon publicly scorned Lockheed-Martin's manufacturing process. And Israel's a partner state in the JSF program. Not a more direct participant, since we were more interested in the F-22 originally, before Congress removed any chance of it being exported, but funny thing... we're also one of the first and biggest F-35 customers. Which is why, regardless of Israel's low-tier participation in the development, we're still getting a custom-made model, the F-35I, that will allow the installation of Israeli-made systems like Elbit Systems' electronic warfare suite. Oh, and not only did IAI win the wing manufacture contract, it's also rumored

He's a somewhat simple man to refute.

succinctly, in your face and the honest truth about people such as split. brilliantly stated, my friend. hameed aboughaze, iranian he should hang his head in shame.

Don't like my sources ? Where do you think you can find this stuff, in politically correct US media that happen to be owned by Jews ? ,... You know what happen to anyone who dare to say something critical about Israel or Jews. Mearsheimer, Walt, Finkelstein to name a few are a prime example why Rense not NY Times or CNN ,...

The frankenfoods and vaccine scares? The 9/11-is-a-plot claims? The *flying saucer* references? The New World Order, the Illuminati, and so on? And of course, the many links to white supremacist websites, Holocaust denial websites that mesh all to well with calls to either expel or exterminate all non-Whites in aforementioned white supremacist sites, etc. All with the truly awe-inspiring hairdo of Rense himself overseeing the mess. Split, if you need to dig through the truly revolting trashbin of information that is Rense and its ilks, then perhaps your "stuff" isn't really news. Perhaps your Jewish-owned, Jewish-run, Jewish-controlled and Jewish-tainted world is little more than an expression of your upbringing and negative desires, rather than of actual reality.

poor thing. it is really not his fault, you know. some are just born with such low intelligence and mental capacity and so, resort to fanatical tirades and imaginary boogymen. jews in general should be honored and relieved that someone like split spends entire days convincing all of us of his mental challenges. to take him seriously is a comedy of sorts or a comedy of errors. either way. i am not a jew myself. i am an engineering phd. from MIT and military hardware and technologies have always been my favorite research interests. i believe i understands where split is coming from and the underlying reasons for his animosity and fanatical hate. i have heard all these reasoning before and to tell you the truth, he is quite a nasty, not to mention, clueless as to what he states in most of his posts. by the way, your refutations as to his posts are quite accurate and well documented when it comes to the f-35 wing technology and especially the wing assembly component, if i may say so myself. i congratulate you on standing your ground when it comes to facts rather than conspiracy theories and bogus posts. have a great day.

so, do let us know, split, what happened to you so far? after all, you spew such antisemitic cabals and venom and you're still standing and breathing. no JEW laid a finger on your body to harm you so far. you're wasting my valuable time, moron.

If it wasn't for websites like rense Solzhenitsyn's "200 years together' or for instance Raul Hilberg's (considered to be the world's preeminent scholar of holocaust) 'The Destruction of the European Jews' would never see the daylight in English ,...

..or rather lack of them...indicate that you're ''quite okay'' with doing the wrong thing for the right reason. The means justifies the end, eh? ... the way you conduct your daily affairs, eh...?