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Second-choice sons
Jerrold Post, Ruthie Pertsis
Published: 20.07.13, 11:12
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1. Ridiculous Article
Mike ,   USA   (07.20.13)
Come on ynet. Why do you even publish such drivel?
2. Proposal for next article: "Abu Mazen & Hitler pushed into
tom ,   tel aviv   (07.20.13)
politics because of their mustaches". No?!
3. You forgot to write: lower quality
Aurora Aronsson ,   Malmö, Se   (07.20.13)
4. ??? Bibi went into politics after he failed everything else
miki ,   tampa   (07.20.13)
Failed miserably! Politics and journalism are two leading professions which require no permit, no license, no education. BS artists are easy to spot and Bibi leads the pack. Should he wish you a hearty "Good Morning" look to the window quick to make sure the sun is really shining-
5. stupid comparisson/dumb article
tiki ,   belgium   (07.20.13)
Netanyahu, son of an hystorian/academic and brother of Yony of which it is not clear if he had any political aspirations, was elected. Assad junior is the unelected heir of a dictator. If this is the best which comes out of universities, than I understand why the world is in trouble.
6. actually, very interesting article
Jordan ,   US   (07.20.13)
seems like previous comments were written by people so narrow-minded and shallow that they cannot handle a little depth and some thought provoking ideas. This is in fact a very interesting article that really offers a different perspective on the issue, I wish there were more such articles posted instead of the regular stuff we usually hear and read. Kudos to Ynet for posting this!
7. There are NO 2nd choice sons and
Sasha ,   Bilbao, basque   (07.20.13)
psychology is NO science!
8. Apples & Oranges
Harry ,   NYC, USA   (07.20.13)
Why doesn't the author just say he hates Bibi, instead of writing some silly defamatory piece comparing Bibi to a dictator. Whether Assad's brother would have been as "terrific" an unelected oppressive dictator as his father was has absolutely nothing to do with the leader of a democracy. Maybe Bibi would have stayed in America if his brother wasn't killed, but something tells me that this author would still be writing how terrible PM Yoni Netanyahu is if Yoni lived and became PM. Pure drivel.
9. JFK and Joe, jr (END)
Dave ,   Canada   (07.20.13)
10. Nr. 1 and Nr. 7 are right, but...
Imperator ,   USA/Israel   (07.20.13)
Both Nr. 1 and Nr. 7 are right, but to others that condemn YnetNews, I say that actually it is an interesting article. Maybe Jonathan Netanyahu would have been a great leader (he demomstrated that with his own life), but chastising Bibi is wrong. I am not happy with the concessions he is being forced to make, but at the end of the day every one, even Labor and Meretz, will realize that the PA does NOT want peace with Israel and never wanted it. Israel is under enormous presure from both Obama and the EU and he has to to convince them that the PA stands for Poison Authority and that Israel will not abdicate to them. And maybe it is time for someone like Danny Danon at the helm or at least as Foreign Minister?
11. Interesting!
Moshe   (07.20.13)
12. Not really at all similar situations
Mark Jeffery Koch ,   Cherry Hill, NJ USA   (07.20.13)
Netanyahu came into power after his brother died freeing dozens of Israelis at Entebbe. Bashar Assad came into power after his brother died while driving his $200,000 sports car into a wall. Netanyahu was in the Seyeret Maktal while Assad was examining people's eyes in London. One is a patriot and brother of a patriot while the other is a thug who has murdered 100,000 of his people and made several of his cities look like cities bombed to rubble in Germany in World War II.
13. Interesting but insulting
Neal ,   Minneapolis USA   (07.21.13)
While this analysis is very interesting -- and who knows, even may be correct -- my initial and lingering reaction is that it's really a cheap shot at Bibi. It's not possible to know how Yoni Netanyahu or Basil Assad would have worked out as government leaders. Suggesting that their younger brothers not only are "second choice" but thus second best (as this opinion piece clearly says w/o saying it directly) is pure conjecture (and politically antagonistic) with no factual basis. Could anyone better handle the conflicting diplomatic, social and religious pressures the confront Bibi? Maybe, maybe not. But to call him inadequate solely on birth order and fraternal intention is unfair and cruel. BTW, I was in high school when JFK was elected, and I vividly recall the enormous lift in public vitality that resulted. And he overcame greater physical limitations voters knew to get himself elected and to govern. Yes, he wasn't the paragon of virtue we all thought, but that's separate from governing; who knows what he might have accomplished if he hadn't been killed?
14. #10 mixing oil and water
BaruchD ,   Israel   (07.21.13)
I'm not sure how you can say that it is an interesting article while agreeing with #1 that it is a ridiculous article unless, of course, you find the ridiculous interesting. I sometimes do as well. Although I detest the arrogance and ignorance of Dani Danon and Bibi's politicking and paranoid absolutism, I think that you are right to defend Bibi for making concessions. You are afraid that he might go to far, I am afraid that he might not go far enough. While I am not sure whether peace with Palestine is possible, I am sure that Israel must give them what the world wants them to have --a chance to prove themselves in their own country. To do this Bibi has to give up the dream of a Greater Israel. But we do not have to sacrifice and I am certain that Bibi will not sacrifice, our security. My hope is that Bibi can distinguish between the two.
15. all you sensitive narrow minded people
alan A. ,   NY, USA   (07.21.13)
can't you handle analysis that attacks the issue from a new view? why are you so defensive and 'insulted' that you can't see byeond your initial narrow gut reactions? the writer says right in thestart that bibi-asad are different in 'almost every way' and compares them only in this one aspect of 'seconde-choice' sons. i find most reactions here silly and pathetic
16. Fascinating
Ron ,   Tel Aviv   (07.21.13)
I am not sure I entirely agree with the argument but it does offer some fascinating clues into the behavior of the two leaders. I wonder which one will survive longer and how their actions will play out when their respective moment of truth comes
17. Very interesting but only a small part of the...
Shachar ,   Eilat   (07.21.13)
psychological make-up. Both Bibi and Assad have many reasons for their conservative stances. I think most world leaders are conservative in their policies while a great leader not only knows how to make daring decisions he also knows how to sell them. Assad is light-years from ever being a great leader and I doubt Bibi has the genes of a great leader either. So we make do with average leaders as do most countries most of the time.
18. Comparison
Ovadya ,   Israel   (07.21.13)
I think that this can explain the behavior of Bibi But comparison to Assad is problematic this days , What about the Jordan dynasty?
19. all the article shows is both were younger sons
zionist forever   (07.22.13)
Bashar Assad was second choice to inherit a dictatorship from his dictator father. Its like royalty the prince inherits the throne when the king dies although in this case the heir to the throne died so his younger brother became the next king. I the case of Bibi so what if he was not the favourite son, in most families there is always a favourite child even if the parent does not tell their kids they have a favourite. Even if Yoni had lived there is no evidence Bibi wouldn't have got into politics or his policies would be any different. This article really is nonsense
20. Neal #13
arne ,   chicago usa   (07.23.13)
Great talk back, but Kennedy caught a big break, he didn't live to see the tragedy of Viet-Nam--he left it for Johnson and that killed him.Kennedy, also died without seeing the civil disobedience which took hold in this country. I often wonder how he would handled these.
21. #14, you can be sure
arne ,   chicago usa   (07.23.13)
he will not bring another Trojan horse to Israel (oslo)
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