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Atheists in closet: Rabbis who lost God
Tali Farkash
Published: 28.07.13, 11:13
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31. #16 "All things That Thy Do Unto Thyself be True"
Rabb ,   Washington D.C.   (07.28.13)
There is nothing so compelling as the self,,,,,,,, atheist or believer,,, but if a "Jackass", gave me good "Advice", "Guidance" and the "Truth",,,,, I'd take it. I don't need "Faith if I posses "Common Sense", "Faith may come latter,,,,,,,, I "Hope"... There is a remedy for hypocrisy, My "Subject" and the "Subject" of this article,,,,, I wouldn't take my car to a carpenter by trade.
32. To #29 Sagi
M. Hartley ,   Atlanta, US   (07.28.13)
You kill me!
33. 21 - Raph, Melbourne gets it
Jake in Jerusalem ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (07.28.13)
Self-doubt is an essential part of Jewish thought. There is no Reward nor Punishment if there is certainty. This is why it is called "Faith" and "Belief". Philosophically and theologically, the existence or non-existence of a Jewish god has to be unprovable for Schar Va'Onesh to be relevant.
34. Rivkah #27 get the hell out of here, we've had enough of
your christian ,   propaganda   (07.29.13)
35. #30 - Get a life, pinhead ,...
split ,   US   (07.29.13)
36. Every fourth person alive today is an atheist today.
Michael ,   California, USA   (07.29.13)
Atheist in the world, I mean, among all the different religions. 99 percent of them are former Orthodox Jews, and I am not counting the ones still in the closets. If you doubt my statistics, go out there and count it for yourself.
37. and what now?
wake up ,   eu   (07.29.13)
ok jews so you hate haredim, dont want torah and all mitzvot and now even no faith in G-d.. how far this thing will go? jews without the Torah and G-d are nothing! we saw it 70 years ago, be assomilated, rich, europian and denai faith in G-d didnt help us to safe our lifes in those days. Only one thing what save us at least after is be a Jew! i only hope that all of you here are not jews but only people with jewish roots(intermarrygies), because real jewish soul will never say this
38. Commentary
Akiva ,   NYC   (07.29.13)
A generation back Commentary did an issue on the state of American Jewish faith. About 40% of Reform rabbis were atheists, so the concept is not new. At the turn of the 20th Century there were Talmudic scholars who did not keep even Shabbos, separating Jewish culture from Jewish observance.
39. 28 Robert, I need to hear the other..
ORA ,   JERUSALEM   (07.29.13)
side's version,before to be allowed to believe your version .Sorry.
40. 31Rabb,Faith begins where reason..
ORA ,   JERUSALEM   (07.29.13)
because of it's limits, can't explain anymore.Common sense might be a help to having faith.
41. # 40 Ora
Sagi   (07.29.13)
Common sense ? Ora, common sense and faith in religion and God are two things which are miles and worlds apart.
42. 34 Irmo, is that you? Boy, you sure had a bad day.
Rivkah   (07.29.13)
Maybe you need some hormones. You sound like an old nag. Messianic Judaism is not Christianity. Messianic Judaism is allowed as an acceptable aliyah religion in Israel by the Israeli Supreme Court or don't you read the Israeli news?
43. 41 Sagi,I was not always Haredi..
ORA ,   JERUSALEM   (07.29.13)
however, i wanted to know what sense has our short life on earth. I read a lot . While philosophers could not satisfy my spiritual search, the Tora gave me satisfying answers.
44. 41 Sagi TRY 2 How do you explain ..
ORA ,   JERUSALEM   (07.29.13)
without faith,the sense of our short life here on earth? and the creation of a sophisticated universe without a Creator,without a guide,without laws?. Since our senses are limited,we are solely able to perceive the Creator by common sense and by faith.
45. #21 - Ralph - I love your post....
Andy ,   Washington, DC   (07.29.13)
I am in the same position.
46. #21, 45: Read Baruch Espinoza to become pure philosophically
Michael ,   California, USA   (07.29.13)
47. #44, The "accidental" big bang just happened!
Michael ,   California, USA   (07.29.13)
You can take it or leave it. Nature's doings require no approval from limited minds of humans on this earth. Our "short" lives are getting longer because of atheistic medicine. You are benefiting from it every day and are using your spare energies to spread boobe mayses.
48. 47 Lives getting longer ?
ORA ,   JERUSALEM   (07.29.13)
Apart from a few centenaries,people are dying very young,due to heart attacks,cancer,auto accidents ,high blood-pressure,cholesterol,diabetes, strokes wars,murders,suicides... Shall i go on? Who is spreading boobe mayses?
49. Athiest Rabbis
JeanH ,   USA   (07.29.13)
Now is the time to return to true Torah. What I see is that medeivel ideas have run their course and need to be uprooted and true Torah keepers can emerge and follow HaShiem according to the path Moshe was given and gave to us. After all over 98% of Jews have been driven away...it only goes to show that rabbis are the reason.. atheists?! Educated people see through this!
50. #48 In Israel alone people live 5 years longer today
Michael ,   California, USA   (07.29.13)
than just 10 years ago. In every western country people live longer. Get your head out from the Mea Shaarim sand.
51. author is a conservative rabbi
bob ,   new haven   (07.30.13)
he's obviously trying to push an antireligious/atheistic agenda. i know that being a conservative rabbi pays big bucks, but wouldnt it be so much more honest to be a social worker instead? that way you dont have to do the whole fake psuedoreligion thing. you dont become a conservative rabbi if you actually believe in God. BTW: i just found out that a former classmate or mine (who is male) married a man and become a conservative rabbi. what a joke!
52. a symptom of the the problem, not the cause
david ,   new york   (07.30.13)
a person (rabbi or non rabbi) who "loses his religion" in his "40's and 50's" is doing so because of other problems, not because of a sudden philosophical thunderbolt. of course, a midlife crisis is going to hit everything you value. doubt your marriage, your career, your religion. it is important, however, to understand the source of the problem: general insecurity with who you are and your role in this world.
53. Don't replace Judism with Jewishness !
Noevil9 ,   USA   (07.30.13)
You seem to be a great example of the slander that Zionists ,Israeli loyalist put on any one who dares to deviat from their Jewishness, and not from their Judiasim as religion. Read Gilad Atzmon book; The Wondering Who ? It will shed a lot of light on what is wrong on replacing Judiasim with Jewishness . It might helpYou stop your bigotery and slander toward others.
54. Didn't "lose" God; discovered their religion isn't about God
Restorer ,   Israel   (07.30.13)
Medievalism is NEITHER Torah NOR the Creator. More likely, the FOUND God -- of Moses.
55. 50 Back up your statements,please.
ORA ,   JERUSALEM   (07.30.13)
56. Rabbis who are "non-believers"
Susan Averbach ,   San Francisco, USA   (08.01.13)
There is an entire international movement of rabbis who are not theists. There are communities all over the world of humanistic Jews who consider Judaism to be the culture and history of the Jewish people and who celebrate holidays, Shabbat, births, weddings, deaths, all authentically without saying theistic words that they don't believe. Come on over to the Society for Humanistic Judaism!!
57. rabbis who have lost faith
Rich   (08.03.13)
I vote for Elisha Ben Abuya
58. atheist rabies
miklos ,   malmö   (08.27.13)
It is comletly normal most of the grreatest thinkers of in hven in the istory had the same problem if readed about the subject know it .Even in the christian religion was the same .those thinkers gave the World great ideas from Descartes to schyopenauer and so on the line is long ful of thinker who questioned the Worlds of god.
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