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Knesset votes on draft bill; haredi MK chains himself to podium
Moran Azulay
Published: 23.07.13, 09:02
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1. Simple solution - only those who served in the army can vote
Larry ,   Or Yehuda   (07.23.13)
2. #1: simple solution
Zvika ,   Jerusalem   (07.23.13)
What about the Arabs? You think the Supreme Court will allow that? It's not so simple.
3. Good please let him stay there and thorw away the key
Haim ,   TA   (07.23.13)
4. #2 - So make it either IDF or Sherut Leumi service.
M. Davison ,   Ra'anana, Israel   (07.23.13)
Then neither the Haredim nor the Arabs can complain about discrimination. I have a suggestion for Meir Porush, though-- instead of chaining himself to the podium in the Knesset plenum chamber, perhaps he could chain himself to the nearest lamppost outside as a protest... the other end of the chain should be around his neck, of course, ending this criminal charlatan's blackmailing of successive Israeli governments.
5. Where does it say in the Torah (Im not an expert)
Tim ,   Brighton   (07.23.13)
That Haredim cant Serve in the IDF Observe Religion Study Torah Have a career or business at the same time? It not only benefits the individual but financially benefits the Yeshivot with greater donations from participants with income Even more rather than compromising their orthodoxy and loyalty they bring with them fresh and new approaches to learning and interpretations coloured by their life experiences To the Haredim Leadership You have nothing to lose and everything to gain
6. #1 Larry - not so simple...
A Jerusalemite ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (07.23.13)
What about the physically disabled? Some of them are permitted to volunteer for non-battle (kravi) positions, but not all of them are so lucky. Would you deny them the vote too?
7. Give him plenty to drink
Tom ,   Tel Aviv   (07.23.13)
and just leave him where he is.
8. Female security guards
Tomy ,   Weiss   (07.23.13)
Just ask female security guards to touch him and he will unchain himself and run away.
9. 4 - Idealistically, #1 solution better
Cyberbrain ,   Israel   (07.23.13)
Sherut Leumi should be left to volunteers, not staffed by those required to do it. Call it like it is: those who don't serve in the IDF don't deserve a vote -- and absolutely yes, that includes EVERY citizen, including Herodim as well as the so-called "Arab-Israelis" whose allegiance is with Israel's enemies.
10. simple solution
rut ,   karmiel Israel   (07.23.13)
and what about all those who came here after army age etc etc
11. 8 Great Idea. Even better, have women sing there endlessly
Israeili Jew ,   Israel   (07.23.13)
12. For once Gal-On is right. It's not equal.
jrebecca ,   modiin   (07.23.13)
The Arabs still dont have to do anything.
13. He's used to being chained (medieval superstitions)
Israeili Jew ,   Israel   (07.23.13)
14. 10- I came after army age; served in IDF anyway
Paqid Yirmeyahu ,   Israel   (07.23.13)
That was back in the 80s but I'm confident that, since foreigners can serve at any age, they still have programs for citizens of any age. There's always work the IDF needs done that would otherwise take soldiers away from their primary tasks.
15. cuffed to podium
yoel ,   Israel   (07.23.13)
These religous activity guys have gone bonkers- I wpould have left him cuffed to the podium come what may! crazy and stupid they have lost their marbles
16. The sooner
Raptor   (07.23.13)
they leave the better, no one needs them in the army and no one needs them living off others.
17. Serve any age ? Not so
Emes Said ,   Silver Spring, md   (07.23.13)
Maybe years ago, over 24, not wanted in regular army since Goldstein incident.
18. why do u hate this peopple??
someone ,   europe   (07.23.13)
why israel wants to be like the countires that hate jews?? this is even worst then german ok there are diffrent opinions and troubles but why this hate? israeli people forget what they are and where they come from and why there are in this world.
19. # 18 Why ? you ask
Sagi   (07.23.13)
I shall tell you why. Every single thing in life is cause and effect, for every action there is a reaction. The hatred and dislike are the effect, the cause is the behaviour and disgusting liestyle that these people live, not only do they live it, they insist on imposing it on others. Show me a democracy in this world that has religious courts and laws that can decide on how and what people can and cannot do. By the way, these people and their illogical behaviour have nothing to do with Judaism, they are a cult, pure and simple, and a dangerous one at that.
20. Draft Bill in Knesset
Sara   (07.23.13)
What about all the lefty kids who weasel out of service to bum around Tel Aviv? Yes, there are religious, Arab and seculars who won't serve this country~Let's call a spade a spade. Stop picking on one sector, this will never bring unity and while we try to destroy each other our enemies will walk in and destroy us!
21. How about chain himself to the Job Center
Haim ,   TA   (07.23.13)
Who knows maybe the rest of them will go get a job !
22. pure hate and blindness
someone ,   europe   (07.23.13)
#19 this is only blined one side opinion you discribe them as animals this is not true what you wrote proves about your inteligence and level of knowledge you speaks exactly like antisemits shame on you and bytheway they can do some mistakes too but what u wrote is too much
23. 17 You're mistaken
Paqid Yirmeyahu ,   netzarim.co.il   (07.23.13)
IDF has other branches beside "regular". There is (or was) Hagah, reserves, volunteering for various needs in IDF, etc. There's no excuse for not serving.
24. # 22 Response
Sagi   (07.23.13)
My intelligence and my knowledge are not up for discussion, I am very satisfied thank you and I have many documents and a resume that will attest to the level of both. As for your former contention that "we have forgetten where we came from". No Sir, I have never forgotten, and that is why I have plowed the soil of this land and reaped its harvests for more than 60 years, fought in three wars, two in combat, served my people and country in other ways that you would not even understand. Those who have forgotten from whence they came are the folks with the funny hats and the long white socks and their nose stuck in a book all day long and creating dozens of children that others have to pay for.
25. Can i have my handcuffs back ?
Snuggle Bunny   (07.23.13)
Now come on i told you they were just for fun !
26. Wrong way
Gady ,   Mexico City   (07.23.13)
...one side of the chain should be tied up to the cieling, the other end to the neck.
27. @1 and those agreeing with him....
Old Immigrant ,   Israel   (07.23.13)
whatever will you do with people like? I immigrated to Israel pregnant at age 30 and so I didn't go to the army or do national service. You expect me to be disenfranchised in order to meet your ridiculous racist and anti-religious purposes? Really folks your stupid is showing.
28. what's up with all this hatred?!
Israel ,   Israel   (07.23.13)
reason to respect M.K. Porush: he's a member of Knesset reason to be kind to M.K. Porush he's a bereaved father and he has been the same since his daughter was killed in a terrorist attack in Jerusalem. reason not to hate M.K. Porush or anyone else: What goes around comes around...
29. Delusional fools..suggestion ..pull out all police IDF
Al   (07.23.13)
from their communities and let them fend for themselves. I am sick and tired of these petz. Without the police and the IDF they would be torn to shreds in no time flat.
30. U didn't convinced me
Someone ,   Europe   (07.23.13)
Fighting in the war or be soldier doesn't make you better person If you are full of hate of your people Too much hate from your writings
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