and it is very difficult situation but just we have to be carfull not start to hate each onther this will be end of israel like it was lot of time before tragedies that happened were everytime our fault and decrees from heaven there are few coments that are the same like people use to say in 39 "deporting" ?? just be carfull what words u choose

One might even understand the cowardice of people - who either only stone in crowds or spit at women who are weaker than they are - too chicken for active military service, but most are not being asked to do that. They are being recruited to provide some form of national service, not only because everyone else has to do it (and most do it willingly), but because it's what decent people do in return for what's done for them: schooling, housing, health services, food.... These ingrates are threatening WAR only to retain their parasitic lifestyle? Well, that'll be a first in the annals of history. What a disgrace to humanity.

If you don't want to fight in the army then you got to support yourselves. Why should I pay taxes for you if you don't want to fight in the Israeli army. If you want all the benefits then you need to do something for this country for example national service. I think your cowards or simply lazy.

Haredim are bad for Israel. They should be encouraged to leave the country and live somewhere else. The trouble is that no one else would tolerate their behavior.

not against my enemies. WOW! I have no words. These people are so selfish and such a Hippocrates. All the time they learn torah, at least few percent of it would have come in practice. Raise weapon - go for civil war in Israel against your own??? Against those who feed you? Against those who pay for your schools? No. 24 is correct. We need firm action and try to deport these haredim just like Sudanese. Israel will be a better place without them.

They''ll fight everywhere, anytime, but not in the IDF. They'll also attack women on buses, wearing "immodest" clothes, drivers on Shabat, gays...but will not fight for their country.

RANTIS and murdering sheikh 'n Bake, arabfarts jew in shin bet - we terminated them. and so many others hehehehehe,these scumbags that bite our hands will be deleted hehehehe KNOW WHAT We Mean ?

They are now in allegiance with Mohamed Mursi of the Muslim Brotherhood. Of course , fighting to defend Jewish lives from arab terror is not allowed, but they are happy to fight and destroy the Israeli democratic state. Actually, their predecessors, the Pharisees did this and destroyed the temple. haredim worship a strange god called money. They will only fight for that. And for their right to extort money from the State, or anyone else.

I do not believe that they regard you and me as their blood brothers. I certainly disown them, my brothers they are not, nor are they my kith and kin.

I have known Israel all my life, and that is many many years. Israel has never been a democratic state, not even for one fleeting moment in its history. The canard,"Israel is the only democratic state in the Middle East", is nothing but demagoguery for the feeble minded masses. The ballot box is only the seed of democracy being planted, after that the plant must be nurtured and tended to, in Isreal democracy stops short in its tracks exactly two minutes after the closing of the ballot box, never to be revived until the next election. Democracy in Israel is a farce and a mirage fed to an hallucinated public.

The actions and inflammatory rhetoric coming from the Haradim community is so very wrong, ethically, practically, and spiritually. These individuals have usurped and perverted Torah and created a perverse, hostile, and insular society within Israel. A friend recently asked me if I thought that this type of behavior was in some way responsible for the alienation of European Jews resulting in pogroms and persecution throughout the years. As a Jew I cringed at the question, blaming the victim is unacceptable I told him. The question however echoes in my head as I read these types of stories of disloyal Haradim threatening anarchy.

The question your friend asked is a perfectly logical one. There has never been the slightest doubt in my mind as to the answer, it is a resounding yes and I came to this conclusion many years ago, in spite of the fact that my family background is Eastern European, from long before the sad events of the last century or even the pogroms. If you study the history and lifestyle of these communities then the question begs the obvious answer.

Have you ever studies Jewish History because I have extensively and your points are not supported by actual facts. The Holocaust started in Germany- the German Jews started the Reform movement and were well integrated into German culture. Many intermarried and most did not practice Judaism at all. Hitler and the Nazis did not care how Jewish you thought you were if you had 1/8 Jewish blood in you they killed you. If you were totally unafilliated they killed you. Look at the European attitude toward Israel now- most of the assertions are false and all are unfairly biased against.Israel. It does not matter how "modern" and "liberal thinking" you are. Anti-semitism is real and has nothing to do with"our" behavior. Please study more about Jewish history from ancient times before it is too late.

They'll fight a "civil war" in order to avoid a draft into an organized army? The smoke must be pretty fair in the settlements. Here's a reality check for the them: The response level to their riots inside their own neighborhoods is measure for measure and usually quite tame, but try to heighten the "war" and see what the Border patrol and Police bring you idiots. Stop loafing--no Jews in history loafed like the yeshivites of Israel. Get off your arises and contribute to the nation.

Too bad they won't fight our enemies with the same zeal.

This is anti-Chareidi media spin. Look deeper and you will find that what they are saying is they will fight the draft and will protect the Torah way of life. They are not stockpiling weapons to start a war. The venom against Chareidim is shameful. Healthy dialogue is what we need not shameful name calling as a response to over blown media bias. The blood libels are now being perpetrated by Jews against other Jews.

I can't decide if bringing us to a civil war in order NOT to fight is an oxymoron...or just plain moronic.

you yourself donot follow the God of Israel, why do you want the people of God to leave His country?? You should repent of your awfull comments. You bring shame to Israel.

Israel is filled woth dictators who curse those who follow the God of Israel. You should repent of your awfull comments, unless you don't want peace.

1. They won't fight Arabs who are out to kill them but they will fight Jews who feed them and protect them? Insanity. 2. Before 1979, the Haredi were drafted and the Haredi worked. But working and the army are the worst of all sins. So their fathers and grandfathers were the worst of sinners? Insanity. 3. Israel is the WORST place for Jews? Utter insanity. (If Israel is the WORST place for Jews, why not leave? After all Israel is not the Soviet Union. Could it be the stipends and welfare? This is not manna from heaven, it is money from the secular - more insanity). 4. Poland is a better place for Jews than Israel? Try it and find out how truly, madly insane you actually are? 5. Making Haredi follow the law and work for a living is a war of extermination? Then America also has such a war of extermination. As does every country on earth. Insanity. When I say insanity I mean it literally. The Yeshivah education these people are receiving has so warped their minds, they are now unable to perceive the world as it actually exists. It is truly frightening if this is what they are teaching their children. Ending welfare might shock them into understanding their true position but maybe they are too far gone. The statements here are indications of very disturbed minds. Minds unable to perceive reality.

I don't believe that haredim will ressort to civil war in order to avoid military duty. I think this article is incitement against haredim. I'm sure that , except for a small minority among the haredim, most orthodox will comply

Where are the charedi rabbanim to condemn those words then ? have you seen how charedi MK behaved after the vote ? A KNESSETH MEMBER ! Incitement when reporting words or facts ? So for you the press should remain silent ?

other believes are insane is insanity. Talk with one of the great Tora scholars,try to understand their logic,then you can comment,since you will know what you are talking about. Certainly not after just reading the press who has it's own agenda.[big sales]

Not only people with 1/8 Jewish blood , but also converts to christianity . The best known of them was Edith Stein , a nun !

and "kasherising" shows her ignorance again . Abroad they are working , don't live on other's money . There is no discussion possible on this . No great "scholar" on tora can deny it .

than their own ,could better talk to the wall. In yiddish"red zsi de wand"

a difference between their ignorance and sane people's opinion should shut up , and stay in their kitchen for the "many guests" she receives . "wie het schoentje past , trekke het aan"