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Ashdod: Haredi man spits on 15-year-old girl
Neri Brenner
Published: 30.07.13, 09:09
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1. Make an example out of him
Avi   (07.30.13)
Maximum punishment in court.
2. Disgrace
David ,   London - England   (07.30.13)
They call themselves the real Jews & look down on others for the way they choose to live their lives. What warped minded individuals - they truly need to take their heads out of their books & look at Judaism in its purest form: "v'ahavta l'reacha kamocha" What an embarrassment !
3. Was in Jerusalem in May this year
Tim ,   Brighton   (07.30.13)
Saw a couple of these louts shouting abuse at a woman they saw as immodest Asked if men could be accused of immodesty too and they said - of course - but men can hit back Speaks volumes
4. Lock Him Up
Arielush ,   Ramat Ha Golan   (07.30.13)
It begins with one person spitting on a teenager walking down the street. Then a sign is put up directing women to dress modestly and walk behind a wall. Next they post guards to enforce it. All these encounters with Haridim have this same trickling affect. We cooperate to appease them and they want more and more and more. We have it in our power to stop it. This man should be prosecuted for sexual assault of a minor. Let's see how he feels after some time in jail.
5. What do women who dress immodestly expect
Dror ,   Haifa, Israel   (07.30.13)
This is the holy land and its not appropriate for women to dress in an immoral manner
6. Deliberate provocation
Sarah B. ,   U.S.A./Israel   (07.30.13)
Knowing it is a place devoted to religious studies, why does she wear tank tops? I have always advocated that all women in Israel should carry a spare vestment to enter sensitive areas.
7. I'd spit too
Akiva   (07.30.13)
Deliberate provocation of religious Jews is completely unacceptable. If you want to walk around with nuclear fallout all over the place, then go to some other land and country. This is Eretz HaKodesh and the Jewish state and if you don't respect that then you don't deserve to be here.
8. She is dressed immodestly.
(07.30.13)
Jeremiah 3
9. This guy is nothing more than an idiot & not even newsworthy
Wise Saba ,   Western Negev   (07.30.13)
10. 7 Akiva
robert ,   antwerp belgium   (07.30.13)
Although I personally don't see what a woman gains in beauty while dressing with tanks, Ashdod is not an orthodox city . Beside that, when you say that when people who do not respect (in the way they dress...)the fact that this is Eretz Hakodesh they don't deserve to be here, you shouldn't forget that the state of Israƫl was founded mainly by hilonim and national religious people (with God's help despite that the orthodox were mainly against). That's why the hilonim certainly deserve to be here.
11. @5,6, 7 The Yeshiva is in a secular part of the city.
jrebecca ,   modiin   (07.30.13)
Who's provoking whom?
12. Not my post above at #5
Dror ,   Haifa, Israel   (07.30.13)
I am flattered... someone has decided to imitate me on the TB.. I would spit in the face of this sharmuta for pretending to be me. For there is only one me. As far as the haredi are concerned they are overstepping their bounds. Purity through sexual frustration is the most retarded approach to spirituality in my opinion. You want to reach the heights of Rabbi Shimon Bar Yochai, you know what you must do, live in seclusion from the rest of society. The common man is a boor and is willfully ignorant. Yeshiva boys get married young, start having sex and babies at around 19 - 20 yrs old there is no reason for them to be sexually frustrated. Women in Israel are their own worst enemies for revealing too much, it makes men into sex fiends that want only sex and nothing else..
13. Are you in your right mind?
Alina ,   Tel Aviv   (07.30.13)
I bet you would be the one spitting! After all we are a democratic country and it's in the responsibility of the parents to see to their childrens' attire! As long as she is not breaking any laws she can wear whatever she liked and it would NEVER justify spitting!
14. hey guys, it's hot out there
iselin ,   Oslo, Norway   (07.30.13)
Do these "religious" guys really think that the men who wrote the scriptures dressed in black suits and fur hats? Give me a break. I don't think the women of the Bible made sure that their elbows were covered either. Until archaeological digs uncover 3000 year old robes, we won't know for sure, but we can guess. If those religious guys don't like it, why don't they buy some of those modesty glasses that were written about in an article on ynet several months ago. Someone could get rich...
15. Dror, Sarah & Akiva
(07.30.13)
Israel is not a religious country. Israel is not Saoudia !!! Go back to your cave you prehistorical man and women...
16. 6/7/8 - Surely the issue is NOT that
Tim ,   Brighton   (07.30.13)
She may have dressed immodestly - and offended the Haredim BUT its the 'Price Tag' she has paid If they did feel so offended they might have given her a leaflet that explained their concerns - whos to say she was not oblivious or innocently unknowing of Haredim sensitivities? Whos to say that she would not have apologised for any offense caused if given half a chance? But who would in their right minds will even contemplate apologising - dripping with spit Who gave them the right to take the law into their own hands and threaten and spit on her? She had committed NO crime Who gave them the right to take it upon themselves to become the Iranian Equivalent of the Modesty Police? May be offensive to Haredim but its equally offensive to the person they spat on. I wonder sometimes what sanction their Rabbis give to these louts to do that sort of thing Whats these louts did was criminal and you cant justify the unjustifiable
17. # 7 Spitting is for monkeys.
Arielush ,   Ramat Ha Golan   (07.30.13)
You wrote in your comment: "If you want to walk around with nuclear fallout all over the place, then go to some other land and country." The human body is not nuclear fall out. It is not radioactive nor is it dangerous, If you think so, then you need help. As for spitting, civilized people know how to speak so they don't need to spit. Spitting is for monkeys.
18. Although wrong to spit....
Zalman   (07.30.13)
she shouldn't dress immodestly.
19. 6/7/8 - Surely the issue is NOT that
Tim ,   Brighton   (07.30.13)
She may have dressed immodestly - and offended the Haredim BUT its the 'Price Tag' she has paid If they did feel so offended they might have given her a leaflet that explained their concerns - whos to say she was not oblivious or innocently unknowing of Haredim sensitivities? Whos to say that she would not have apologised for any offense caused if given half a chance? But who would in their right minds will even contemplate apologising - dripping with spit Who gave them the right to take the law into their own hands and threaten and spit on her? She had committed NO crime Who gave them the right to take it upon themselves to become the Iranian Equivalent of the Modesty Police? May be offensive to Haredim but its equally offensive to the person they spat on. I wonder sometimes what sanction their Rabbis give to these louts to do that sort of thing Whats these louts did was criminal and you cant justify the unjustifiable
20. sanctioned insanity
Steve   (07.30.13)
Israeli women should carry a small canister of mace on their key rings and blast anyone who assaults or accosts them. I would imagine that after a half dozen or so well publicized incidents, where these primitive ogres who defile the Torah with their madness are left gasping in their own snot, they will perhaps learn to keep their bodily fluids to themselves.
21. A new trend to be in the headlines...
ORA ,   JERUSALEM   (07.30.13)
This ingenuous youngster should not have done her this favour.
22. No.7
Jew1 ,   Ashdod   (07.30.13)
I live in Ashdod and I know exactly which area it is. It is near the construction of new police station with Matnas & Tzaharon. It is a new area of Ashdod with 99% seculars and that also with 90% of it coming from soviet Russia. The one who game them land there is idiot and do not wish good for any side of it. On top of that, even if it would have been haredim area, who game them right to spit on another person? This is a crime. Start putting them in jail for more than 5 years of time and see the difference in them. Eat on seculars money, don't pay any taxes, don't pay area taxes but ready to spit on them at the first unprovoked occasion. They should be labeled terrorist.
23. Cave dweller mentality
Grp ,   Tel Aviv   (07.30.13)
Has the human race not advanced from the grunt? Spitting is a disgusting and uncouth behavior associated with a lack of breeding and it deserves both contempt and punishment. One might ask what is wrong asking first if a person could respect the area with more covering? People respond more to reason than attack. However, there can be no denying that there is a push to extend the power of ultra orthodoxy by building these institutions in secular areas as the means to enforce their religious codes on those who don't want it. So if these good folk can't stand the site of the female form, they should set up shop in areas where no females are ever likely to go. A remote island sounds ideal.
24. Islamic behavior
Stuart ,   South Africa   (07.30.13)
The actions of this man are similar to the actions of Islamic men towards women. I do not personally support any form of immodesty but neither do I take it upon myself to judge others as we are all equal in the eyes of God
25. Not when I am present with my daughter
Israeli 2   (07.30.13)
or wife and no matter how immodest they dress. If anyone spits on them, that sucker is toast and fried for everyone to see whether so called "chasid" or otherwise. I don't care if it is in their so called neighborhood or on the beach. Wherever I am in Israel, no one spits on me or my family. When the police tells me otherwise, I will comply. NO SPITTING or you will be severely whacked.
26. spitter spatter
jo moor   (07.30.13)
Who are the haredi the spitting image of?
27. 25 The tiger has a big mouth,but ...
ORA ,   JERUSALEM   (07.30.13)
he flees like a mouse ,when he sees somebody coming with a garden hose pointed in his direction. Better solution to be respected: Respect others.
28. Sick!
A Jerusalemite ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (07.30.13)
If a man is so unable to control himself that the sight of a girl in a tank top makes him sexually stimulated, he is sick and should be hospitalized. That goes both for the individual and the group.
29. 10Robert "the orthodox were mainly..
ORA ,   JERUSALEM   (07.30.13)
against" is anti orthodox propaganda. The orthodox people in the whole world,except some sects ,were praying during the Israeli independence war for Israel's victory.Moreover many very motivated religious boys from Bne Akiba and others joined the Israeli army.
30. 11 So what,if a monastery would be..
ORA ,   JERUSALEM   (07.30.13)
there instead,would she walk there in this provocative attire ?
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