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Kenyan lawyer looks to sue Israel over Jesus' death
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Published: 06.08.13, 07:56
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31. Interesting
Paul ,   Jerusalem   (08.06.13)
There is a common element between those who are fanatically religious and reality. Anything that happens that does not conform to their ego-based, shewed sense of the will of Gd, they attribute it to Satan, or more conveniently to Jews. We are living in a world of highly deranged and malicious people.
32. IDIOTIC SCUMBAG !
Chris Rettenmoser ,   Bayerisch Gmain Germ   (08.06.13)
33. Cant sue the Romans - better sue the Palestinians
Jrebecca ,   Modiin   (08.06.13)
After all, they claim to have been here before the Jews.
34. @25 we're still collecting evidence.
Jrebecca ,   Modiin   (08.06.13)
35. prosecutions prime witness
jew4jews ,   Jerusalem   (08.06.13)
if he is G-d, let him defend himself....we're waiting....
36. Perfidious Jews murdered your Jesus & created your religion
miki ,   tampa   (08.06.13)
No Jews No Dead Jesus No Messiah No Church how idiotic can one man be?
37. Fairy tales and fantasies are the hallmarks
Sagi   (08.06.13)
of all religions. There is not one shred, iota or scrap of historical or scientific evidence that this Jesus character ever existed, just as in the Jewish religion there is no evidence of such characters as Abraham and Moses etc. I use the word character not in order to be derisive but as opposed to person or individual which would denote acknowledgement of existance. By historical or scientific I mean actual historical records of a contemporaneous nature or archeaological evidence stating categorically details of birth and death. Please do not give me Josephus as evidence, this was written almost 70 years after the story of his so called ministry and executuion. As for Pontius Pilatus there is no concrete evidence of his serving as Governor or Prefect, indeed little is known about him other than the village in Italy in which there indeed resided a family by that name. All the stories and folklore and Gospels were written 140-160 years after the "event". Nazareth was a small one horse village of no significance at the time of the "event".When it comes to religion fabrications are the forte of Man's fabulous mind.
38. I am waiting for this nutcase in Rome..
Anna M Sedda ,   Rome-Italy   (08.06.13)
This man has a brain of a gorilla; taking to court a dead man is court case for a sick brain of the jungle...
39. If perfidious Jews had not murdered Jesus, there is no
miki ,   tampa   (08.06.13)
40. to #12
StevieT ,   USA   (08.06.13)
If one still lives, he will have to testify.
41. You don't even need to know law to defend against this
Jacob E ,   Holon, Israel   (08.06.13)
This would be a mockery of a trail. First of all, this is a trial against the Jews, not against Israel. As it happened during the time of another governmental body, the state of Israel is not responsible. The only other way to do it is blaming Jews as a whole. The governing body at the time were the Romans, so in the end it was their responsibility. So what I would like to see is for someone to sue the Romans for killing Jesus and then a hundred years later putting the blame on the Jews for a punishiment they did. Next, the arresting officials, even if they were Jews were in the service of the Roman authorities, so due to agent relationships, the blame would still go to the Roman government. Next, the charges. If the charges were blasphemy, they weren't charges from the Jewish people because they were a monotheistic people and the governing authority was a polytheistic one. The Romans would arrest Jews for blasphemy for saying they worship one god. So they would definitely arrest someone for claiming he was the son of the one god. Furthermore, the death of Jesus was not by crucifixion, it was from a ROMAN spear. So again... not our fault. More so, in this time there was no rules about interrogations or confessions. Finally... If Jesus was the Christian messiah, he came to earth specifically to die for the sins of mankind. Therefore, he was going to die by someone else's hand becuase suicide is a mortal sin. So the best charge you can give to whoever you end up charging with a crime is assited suicide, or maybe conspiracy to commit murder.
42. IDIOT - Israel has already been punished for this !
Arn. ,   Sweden.   (08.06.13)
Malaki 4. 5 Look, I am sending Elijah the prophet to you, before the great and terrifying day of the Lord arrives. 6 Turn the hearts of the parents to the children and the hearts of the children to their parents. Otherwise, I will come and strike the land with a curse. Comment - Acciording to Jesus Himself John the Babtist was Elijah. And Israel did not Receive neither Him not Jesus Himsel who claims to be HASHEM himself incarnated in the Flesh, so, Israel was then Cursed with distinction. Arn.Sweden.
43. Executed but not dead
EM ,   Ra'anana   (08.06.13)
If Jesus was resurrected (not dead)..putting anyone on trial for his murder should be impossible. If Dola Indidis, is indeed a lawyer, then he should know one of the main concepts in a murder trial.. 'no body..no case'. Within the same Scriptures that Indidis cites for evidence of mistreatment, is the very clear fact that the body (i.e. evidence) was gone after 3 days.
44. First Prove That Jesus Existed. Who were his grandparents?
(08.06.13)
The Jewish prophet Jeremiah cursed King Jeconiah (and his descendents) because Jeconiah was an apostate king. According to the curse NO descendent of King Jeconiah may sit on the throne of Israel. Matthew and Luke both appear to have been aware of Jeremiah’s curse and the fatal problem it created for Jesus. So Luke eliminated King Jeconiah from Jesus’ geneology. However, both Matthew and Luke blundered by leaving Shealtial (Jeconiah’s son) and Zerubbabel, (Jeconiah’s grandson) in Jesus’ genealogy. Historically, none of Jeconiah’s descendents ever again sat as a Jewish king, although one of his righteous descendents sat as governor. Matthew failed to remove King Jeconiah from Jesus’ genealogy. Instead, he eliminated King Jehoiakim, King Jeconiah’s father. Apparently, Matthew was confused by the similarity of their names and eliminated the wrong king by mistake. Luke’s genealogy from David to Jesus is 15 generations longer than Matthew’s genealogy from David to Jesus. This undermines the Christian claim that the Gospels are the “word of G-d”, because G-d certainly knows the genealogy of King David. Some Christians attempt to solve this fatal problem by claiming that Luke’s genealogy is actually that of Mary, although Mary is not even mentioned in Luke’s genealogy. Further, this claim is rendered meaningless by the fact that Jewish law only recognizes tribal affiliation through the father. Even ‘if’ one could consider the genealogy of the mother, if one assumes that a generation is at least 20 years, this means that Joseph was at least 300 years older than his wife (15 extra generations X 20 years per generation = a 300 year difference in their ages. This gives a new meaning to a “May-December” relationship. The two genealogies do not agree of Jesus’ grandfather. According to Matthew, Jesus’ grandfather was Jacob and according to Luke, he was Heli. This creates another devastating contradiction, further undermining the credibility of the genealogies given for Jesus by Matthew and Luke. The apostle Paul, realized that Matthew’ and Luke’s genealogies were problematic for Jesus, so he said: “But avoid foolish disputes, genealogies, contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and useless.” “…nor give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which cause disputes rather than Godly edification which is in faith.” Paul had good reason to be concerned about the very flawed and contradictory genealogies in Luke and Matthew, since genealogy is the only authentic messianic criterion that the Christian bible claims that Jesus fulfilled. Jesus is eliminated from messianic consideration because of the myriad of errors and problems in both Matthew and Luke’s genealogies, in which they attempt to connect Jesus to David. Matthew said, “So all the generations from Abraham to David are 14 generations, from David until the captivity in Babylon are 14 generations, King Jeconiah was taken into captivity in the 28th. generation, and from the captivity in Babylon until the Christ are 14 generations.”
45. A good response for #16
Jacob E ,   Holon, Israel   (08.06.13)
Since your statement is true, I would love to see a roman authority re-do the trial of Jesus under the charges of subversion, inciting rebellion, and treason. Freedom of religion is something that is not an excuse for these charges... something a lot of muslims in Europe would do well to remember.
46. Religion
Sagi   (08.06.13)
is a notable contributor to illogical and irrational thoughts and actions. This is a prime example.
47. i thought jesus said turn the other cheek...
max ,   america   (08.06.13)
will this man sue the descendents of the black africans who sold the white europeans their neighbors? and if the jews in israel today are fake khazars who have stolen the original palestinians' land, shouldn't he be suing the palestinians?
48. #14
aaron ,   toronto,canada   (08.06.13)
Now that you put your two cents in you can go back to your killing of defenseless bulls.
49. # 21 Yoni
Sagi   (08.06.13)
Habeas Corpus has nothing whatsoever to do with "no body,no case". The "no body,no case" concept was, I repeat was, part of English Common Law from 1660 to 1954 in which year it was abolished. Habeas Corpus is a writ issued by a judge instructing that a detained person be brought before a court in order to determine the legality of his detainment and if necessary extend it. It is essentially a demand of the judge saying, Habeas, can I have and Corpus, the body. In plain English, Please bring the detained person physical before me.
50. #18 mark
aaron ,   toronto,canada   (08.06.13)
Too bad the third reich is long gone isn't it mark.The whole of your country should be taken to the ICJ and made to pay EVERY JEW IN THE WORLD to keep your stinking country in poverty for the thousand years that your filthy people did to them.
51. # 50 Aaron
Sagi   (08.06.13)
You certainly do not pull any punches and your target certainly deserves all the possible pejoratives. That the "iniquities of the Fathers shall fall upon the Sons" is possibly something that happens by self generation or dynamic process, but it is not prudent to wish it on today's Germany, the German people of today, and certainly not on those of the next thousand years. Having said that I can empathize somewhat on your opinion.
52. Can we sue Muhammad for founding Islam?
(08.06.13)
53. What a fine representative of the Kenyan judicial system
mea   (08.06.13)
Can I be in the play pretend jury?
54. Mankind
Sagi   (08.06.13)
should put religion on trial, condemn it and convict it for what it is, the biggest mass murderer and serial killer of all time. After the trial it should be abolished and outlawed never to raise its ugly head again.
55. let him sue the wizard of oz for a brain
ed ,   u.s.   (08.06.13)
Jesus gave his life no one took it, If this idiot wants to help Jesus let him give his time an money to the poor an needy in Kenya
56. Wait, Israel can make money here
yona ,   tlv   (08.06.13)
they claim that it was the Crucifixion of jesus that got rid of lots of pain and suffering of the world, therefore jews did the world a big favor, isnt it time people give lots of money to israel as a way of thanking them for doing this?
57. Judeans and Romans
Joe   (08.06.13)
It's time the New Testament translations wrote Judeans instead of Jews just like they write Romans instead of Italians.
58. #12 Jesse
DavidR ,   USA   (08.06.13)
While I fully agree with you, I would like to bring it to your attention that the One yet living witness said, "No one takes My life from Me. I freely lay it down and I will take it up again." So all the accused are found innocent in mans court. It is the Heavenly Court that should trouble the accused. For the record, Israel did not kill Yeshua. He allowed a hand full of Roman appointed so called Priests who had no connection to Aahron, who were paid for their services to Rome by keeping the Jews in line. They He allowed to perform their hellish duties. Remember the words, "We have no King but Caesar? No Jew would ever say that. Only self hating descendants of Hebrews who sold their souls to Rome would say that.
59. If he is suing..he must have named a price
Benjy   (08.06.13)
required by the prosecution...now if by any chance he wins this case, where would that money go? are they actually running out of email scams....and I do think this case is a wee bit too old, no evidence...oh dear what a clown. We must thank this idiot for one thing....YESSSS, the Jews where here long before Islam and xtianity....the so called new religion. WTG Kenyan judicial system...
60. Yep, I admit it. I killed him...
Beautiful Haifa   (08.06.13)
And I would do it again if he ever came back from the dead. I mean, he might be harder to kill him because he would technically be Zombie Jesus, but I think it would be possible. I'll start construction of the giant cross.
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