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Will Norway help Palestinian NGO destroy ICC?
Gerald M. Steinberg
Published: 16.08.13, 12:53
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31. anton compare your hole to norway
igor ,   toronto Canada   (08.16.13)
32. #28, really? compared just like that?
ilan ,   Ramat Gan   (08.16.13)
your not going to mention all of Israel's money being wasted on really expensive $50,000.00 missiles to take out $800 rockets, just so the Pali's won't cry bloody murder? or the $135,000.00 missile to take out rocket launchers to protect its citizens? your not going to compare Israel's defence budget needs compared to norway? any other country would have just ended this situation by slaughtering the enemy a long time ago. just look at egypt, syria! or hamas and hezbollah's attempts at slaughtering us! Israel has restrained itself, and the proof is that the conflict is still going on for how many years now? compare collateral civilian causalities from any other conflict to ours? NO? you don't feel like? well if this farce ever ended going to the ICC, you can bet our lawyers will!
33. Zyx
DavidR ,   USA   (08.16.13)
Hillbillies are Scotch and Irish highlanders who supported William and Mary in their late 1600's escapades. billie is a supporter of William (Bill), and hill regards the highlands. Norway has nothing to do with the term. Seeing you are from the US, you are probably using the term as a pejorative. But I doubt you know what that means either.
34. Stop whining!
Harri ,   EU   (08.16.13)
ICC has been founded so that no military power could steal the land and human rights from the weaker people. If you negotiate with good faith and make peace with Palestinians so that also Palestinians could have some basic human rights, you have nothing to fear about ICC. But...if you try to steal all the land and water of Judea and Samaria from the people of Judea and Samaria, and try to force the people of Judea and Samaria into diaspora, God will send every blight you can imagine upon Israel, ICC and boycotts to start with.
35. #29. "Palestinians" are fictional & have no legal claim.
Chaim ,   Israel   (08.16.13)
#29. Palestine never existed and never will. "Palestinians" are fictional and have no legal claim on a single grain of Israeli sand. As far as "Palestinian" human rights are concerned; they are better treated by Israel than by most Arab states.
36. #29 Unfair to compare!
Johannes ,   Norway   (08.16.13)
Norway has no murderous Islamist neighbours like those surrounding Israel, whose goal is to wipe out Jewish existence in their God-given land! And with such gullible leaders like those leftists we've had for the last 8 years, Norway would not have survived in an evil ME'ern environment!
37. Thank you for this pedantic contribution
Zyx ,   USA   (08.16.13)
38. Disgusting! Do Norwegians know that their money is being
Marwan Khoury مروان ,   Montreal, QC   (08.17.13)
used to promote hatred, bigotry and terror?
39. Anton # 28
David Israel ,   New York, USA   (08.17.13)
Israel's military is one of the strongest in the region as well as in the world. While Israel buys most of its high tech equipment from USA, Israeli engineers know how and research is used on most of these arms. Israel does not get hand outs, Israel hands out her research and know how to USA to jointly develop these arms.
40. norway better be careful.
motti   (08.17.13)
Israel can break norway with both hands tied. norway and its governemnt had better not push israel too far.
41. david
anton ,   istanbul   (08.17.13)
israels military air ground and naval forces contains many aids , free subs from germans funding of iron dome by americans lets not forget many war planes just given to israel as gesture from uncle sam, this doesnt mean israel dont do anything herself she does, but the amount of aid she gets annually be it 3 bl money or equipment is really something, that all iam saying, norway dont have these choices btw i have tried altınkapı in izmir truly one of the best doner i ate, tnx again :)
42. #22 The ICC can prosecute Israeli's
On the Balcony ,   Akko/NY/Kyiv   (08.17.13)
regardless of the fact that Israel is not a signatory. Its decisions will be respected and enforced by signatory nations including those of Europe. Why do you think that both the U.S. and Israel have been so concerned?
43. #42. More pathetic fear mongering. Israel is 100% correct.
Chaim ,   Israel   (08.17.13)
#42. Like cowardly leftists of your ilk, you are a one trick pony. Your one trick is trying to scare Israel into surrendering to her genocidal enemies. Your fear mongering won't work. Legally, Israel is 100% correct. This is easily provable to any fair minded person. If the ICC issues a vile, politically motivated condemnation of Israel; it will be absolutely destroyed by many of the world's greatest lawyers. Real brilliant world renowned lawyers. Not ridiculous poseurs like you.
44. Anton
David Israel ,   New York, USA   (08.17.13)
Don't forget that many battleships such as the Muavenet, many fighter planes to the Turkish military were handed as gifts to Tufkey. In 1977 when I was a yedek subay in Ankara I worked on the training airplanes that were the gift of Germany. At that time Turkey had nothing to reciprocate. Israel reciprocates with providing research know how and collaboration. I am glad you liked altinkapi. But I forgot to recommend the lokma of cesme
45. #40
iselin ,   Oslo, Norway   (08.17.13)
Excuse me, but is that a threat? If so, it is from Motti alone! If Israel tries to break Norway, which it won't and can't - no government is that stupid - then it certainly would win even fewer popularity contests than it does now. Doesn't Israel get enough negative press as it is without some moron shooting his mouth off?
46. #43
On the Balcony ,   Akko/NY/Kyiv   (08.18.13)
Cowards hide behind stereotypes, name calling and silly slogans. I have simply stated a fact: the ICC can prosecute Israeli's even if Israel is not a signatory. This is not fearmongering, it's simple fact. Not a single living widely renowned international law scholar supports Israel's position. Again, just a simple fact. Get a new hobby Chaim, your usefulness to what even Bibi is now calling the lunatic right is nearing an end.
47. #29 Excellent and measured response, Declan.
Ben Alofs ,   Bangor, UK   (08.18.13)
Thanks very much.
48. To No. 46
Bertram ,   London, UK   (08.18.13)
I would be quite upset if Chaim disappeared from this forum. It is like having a demented elderly aunt. You know she talks nonsense but she is entertaining and you will miss her when she has gone.
49. Genocide Prevention
Zechariah   (08.18.13)
Genocide Prevention is the First Duty of The International Court and the Islamist Jihadi and Fatah -Ba'ath are capable to Genocide the Jews in Israel out of revenge for the Jews Victories especially since 1948 .The Palestinian leader El Husseini Supported Nazism and had fruit juice with Hitler whilst Jews were being gassed en masse.These Crimes swamp Crimes by the Jewish forces in the conflict Crimes which Jihadi Sharia and Fatah Ba'ath would commit en masse against the Jews if they had the Power .This Reality is a Catastrophic Reflection .
50. #46. Over 1,000 intl. lawyers told E.U. Israel is right.
Chaim ,   Israel   (08.18.13)
#46 Jump Off The Balcony. You have posted countless ridiculous things on this forum. But never a single fact. A news story dated August 2nd, 2013 detailed how more than 1,000 international law lawyers told the E.U. Israel has every right to build in Judea and Samaria. Yet you claim there is not a single one who believes this. The only value of your posts, and Bertram's, is to reveal the idiotic thinking that informs the ludicrous ideas of the Jewish left.
51. #45 Who's breaking who?
Tahl   (08.18.13)
Relax, Israel is not out "to break Norway". Israel actually prefers to have a friendly relationship with Norway. But unfortunately, it is Norway which tries in every way possible to break Israel. And we are sick and tired of your country's meddling in our business and the constant demonizations and de-legitimization of us. And without even a good reason, as this conflict has nothing to do with you. So just stay out of our business, be neutral for a change instead of being so virulently anti-Israel, and then could be friends. But until that happens, you cannot blame us for despising your country. You gave us excellent reasons. (And by the way, yes - the Palestinian murderers we released are EXACTLY like Breivik.)
52. #46 You seem to have missed the point
Tahl   (08.18.13)
Which is, that the ICC has been hijacked by pro-Palestinian groups for using it as a political ramming tool for demonizing Israel. This entire article exposes the great hypocrisy, cynicism and lack of good faith involved in this demonization effort. Yet your comments show you haven't even bothered to read it beyond the title. After all, why let the hard facts presented get in the way of your agenda.
53. Why not summerize..
Beary White ,   Norway   (08.18.13)
The Norwegian leftist government is licking the ass' of islam by allowing almost free immigration of islamic variations. And due to the close love-affair between norwegian leftist and islam, our FM has taken the role of PA's defender and will bring/help PA, to bring Israel on ICC agenda. Financially Norway supports the PA more than 800 mill. annually. At the same time this twisted government close the eyes to all atrocities done by islamic followers towards non-muslims. This is the truth and status regarding the current norwegian politics in ME. We all (non-leftist, non Islamic), voters hopefully will be able to throw the current government and get politicians with open minds an eyes. The female politician, Halvorsen, who stood up in Oslo with the hamass supporters, seems to loose her seat in the parlament because her political party seems not to be represented at all in Stortinget..
54. to the Norwegian Royal Family
Bluegrass Picker ,   Afula   (08.18.13)
Please think carefully. You were installed purely by violence, nothing more. And your jihadi welfare-collectors will not lift a finger to save you from Sampi attackers. Please remember the fate of the last Czar and his children.
55. Beary White no 53 Norway
Bikerwolf ,   London U.K.   (08.18.13)
Many a good comment posted by you my friend. Great to know that the Norwegians are waking up to the Leftie conspiracy and the antics of its socialist left ruling class. Saw today that the Ruling Class will only get about ten seats in the new Stortinget (Parliament) The SV (ruling class socialist left representatives) party may not even make it into the Parliament and traditional socialist regions are going for the conservative bloc. I'm sleeping better already. You?
56. To No. 50
Bertram ,   London, UK   (08.19.13)
Chaim, I am sure this news story dated August 2nd is correct. I would like to read it, so where can I find it?. The source please.
57. Declan 29
Bikerwolf ,   London U.K.   (08.19.13)
Great list of facts mate. All true as well. Thankfully the Norwegians are using the cream of these natural resources to build a better homeland and have created the third most equal society on the planet. Unfortunately 800 million kroner of this fabulous wealth is currently being squandered on your Hamas Nazis comrades who are using it to teach their children to be Jew- killing Jihadists instead of teaching them how to develop Gaza into a peaceful Sinai tourist gem. During the last Gaza conflict your peacenik buddies were chanting 'bomb Tel Aviv' outside the Norwegian parliament. In case you didn't know, the hydro-electric industry was developed by the Swedes and the oil and gas was the result of US, Canadian and British capitalist expertise, something the Norwegians - except the muppet Left - eternally appreciate. Hopefully your new Irish oil and gas monies won't be hijacked by your own barmy Sinn Feiners and handed over to Hamasistan by the flotilla - load.
58. ICC: Israelis are trembling in their boots
CJK   (08.19.13)
do the palis and their norwegian supporters really think that hard men who have fought in wars and who have to protect israel against the muslim hordes surrounding israel with a hundred thousand missiles fear the icc?! what total nonsense. the arabs have committed huge numbers of war crimes and crimes against humanity and one day they will pay.
59. 30 uk citizen, well said
CJK   (08.19.13)
60. #50, 56 I stand corrected
On the Balcony ,   Akko/NY/Kyiv   (08.19.13)
If the article published in the israel national news on July 22 is correct then lawyers including several notable Israeli international jurists are using the arguments of the levy report to protest the EU's decisions against the settlements. But not even Israel endorses the levy report. Nothing, not even an ICC ruling, will convince those who disagree about the illegality much less the immorality of the settlement policy. People who believe they possess truth with a capital "T" are not open to rational discourse.
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