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Germany urges Britons not to celebrate WWI centenary
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Published: 18.08.13, 19:51
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1. Revisionist Germans: WW1 was your fault
Sean ,   Phoenix   (08.18.13)
Are the Germans trying to pretend that WW1 was their "last good war?" Germany tried to find any excuse to go war in the decade prior to 1914. The assassination of Archduke Ferdinand was the perfect excuse to push Austria to invade Serbia. Sending Lenin to the USSR was your fault. WW2 was your fault. Pretty much every bad thing in the 20th century was your fault.
2. After WW2 & Nazism.......
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The Germans would be better off, not making any comments on these subjects. What is it any concern of theirs if Britain celebrates victory in WW1 in their home territory.
3. What an idiot. Lectures from Germany
Sami ,   New York, USA   (08.18.13)
Now the Germans are going to threaten the UK and tell them how they should celebrate WW1.
4. Germans giving orders again!
tiki ,   belgium   (08.18.13)
Forgetting WW1, than WW2. Germany would love that. But....I won't be surprised if this scenario will actually happen in the future as I look around me with all the new Neo Nazi's worshiping the good old days again, being called an anti Zionist/Semite has become an honor title, where Jews in Europe are targeted again and the trampling on the ultimate Jew 2013, Israel, has become the national sport of Europe. .
5. For general information, so long as UK
(08.18.13)
remains in the European Project, Germany & France Rule 25 other countries including UK
6. #4 Tiki - Very well put, thank you!
Son of Cyrus ,   UK   (08.19.13)
7. Jews served voluntary in German Army
Dovid ,   Atlanta, GA, USA   (08.19.13)
Just FYI, in World War One over 100,000 Jews served the Kaiser (12,000 fell in battle) and over 320,000 Jews served in the Austro-Hungarian army (over 40,000 fell in battle). Most Jews in the German and Austro-Hungarian armies volunteered for service. Both the German and Austro-Hungarian armies provided Jewish military chaplains for its Jewish soldiers and sailors.
8. sore losers
zionist forever   (08.19.13)
Notice its always the losers that think that the winner should not celebrate their victory and remember their dead? Germany doesn't have much to be proud of considering they started what became WW1 and then they later started WW2. Germany was one of the founding members of what became the EU so they want the British to celebrate the German achievement rather than the British victory over Germany in what was probably one of the most important wars that had taken place in centuries because of the way it affected the whole world then and now. After the war the British were given their League of Nations mandate to create a Jewish homeland in Palestine based on the 1917 Balfour Deceleration which they did not follow through with to appease their arab allies. It makes me wonder if they had fufilled the terms of their mandate would the Jews of Europe had a refuge during WW2 and maybe the Holocaust could have been avoided because somebody was willing to take them in.
9. Not alone in guilt
Neal ,   Minneapolis USA   (08.19.13)
Germany is not solely to blame for World War 1. Equally guilty, if not more so, is the mentally slow Czar, whose order of mobilization (to defend the Slavs of Serbia from Austria) set off Germany's mobilization and thus those of Britain and France. The Great War, as it was called, was a senseless slaughter of millions over what in geopolitical terms was next to nothing (not that I condone assassination or shrug off the archduke's family's real grief). A second great stupidity was the greed of the Allies -- primarily France -- in seeking to put all the blame for the war on Germany and punish it was impossible reparations. That led to German domestic disaster and resentment that were fertile grounds for Hitler, the demon who gave us the 1939-45 war in Europe and its tens of millions of dead -- among them 6 million of our people. If the British want to celebrate their pig-headed murder of their own young men, repeatedly ordered uselessly into withering machine-gun fire (you'd think they'd learn after once or twice, but it took them four years!), that's Britain's own business. The Great War deserves no celebration anywhere.
10. (8) good points!
tiki ,   belgium   (08.19.13)
11. Germany should keep quiet
CJK   (08.19.13)
the brits should celebrate as they wish. the germans should remember that after ww i they gave us the horrors of ww ii.
12. Neal no: 9
Bikerwolf ,   London U.K.   (08.19.13)
I believe your talkback is correct and this is indeed how most historians view the causes of WW1. A famous British Historian (AJP Taylor) called it: ' war by timetable'. My history books add into the mix a desire for the European powers to try out the strength of their new Industrial Revolutionary arsenals and to fight over the spoils of colonialism. The Daily Mail, however, won't shy away from a fight with any of our EU partners since it promotes an anti - EU spin on all things European. Unfortunately we are still playing the ''colonial card' with our obsession with Gibraltar and the Falkland Islands. Who knows, we may learn some day.
13. To: Neal at No. 9
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (08.19.13)
But given Germany's history, one can also make the argument that World War I simply allowed the true nature of the German people to become apparent. It's never their fault, you know? The Franco-Prussian War, World War I, World War II .... isn't it disheartening to see how quickly the German people scramble away from any responsibility? By the way, no one is "celebrating" the Great War. But there is nothing wrong with celebrating the memory of all the selfless young men who fought and died to preserve freedom. Do not take that away from their families. Hitler -- may his name be cursed throughout eternity -- was unique to the German experience. Nothing is ever THEIR fault, after all. If British celebration of the First World War offends Germany, perhaps it is time for the Germans to embark upon a bit of introspection. High time, too. Germans are responsible for more misery than any other identifiable group in history. They need to face their despicable past. It would appear, given German protest, that nothing has changed. I do believe we dropped the bomb on the wrong country.
14. LEARN HISTORY CORRECTLY!!!
Tomi ,   Budapest Hungary   (08.19.13)
WWI was an imperialist war,without racism. Millions died in vein, but it was a so called traditional war,where Christians and Jews fought side by side. The losers ( Germany-Austo-Hungary etc. ) had been punished in Versailles.. Very seriously and partly unfairly. WW2 was not only imperialist, but simultaneously a racist war,with the aim of exterminating a human race, the Jews. Todays Germany is less racist than todays England! On the other hand when Great Brittain closed the door of escape before the Jews during WW2, they actally bacame accomplices of the Nazis in the annilihation of the Jewish race!
15. #10 Belgium
Harold F ,   Signal Hill USA   (08.19.13)
Britain declared war on Germany after that country ignored a British ultimatum to withdraw from Belgium. Belgium's neutrality had been guaranteed by a treaty signed in 1849.But Germany's Schlieffen Plan required the German army to invade Belgium in order for the right wing to carry out its mission of enveloping the French army and capturing Paris. When Bethmann-Hollweg was told the British would intervene if Belgium neutrality was violated, he expressed his amazement that Britain would go to war because of a "scrap of paper."
16. #9 - You are correct.
Dovid ,   Atlanta, GA, USA   (08.19.13)
Preferably no war should be "celebrated" - though it can be commemorated.
17. This is ridiculous
Ian ,   Newcastle upon Tyne   (08.19.13)
I've lived in Britain all my life and I can say that there has NEVER been a celebration of the outcome of the Great War. Armistice day,11/11/1918,is marked as a day of commemoration and remembrance and is extremely solemn but NEVER triumphalist . Perhaps the German government is saying that they wouldn't want the day marked in Britain the way it would be marked in Germany if Germany had won. THREE CHEERS FOR ISRAEL!!!
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