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Nixon in '73: Jews must realize they're Americans first
Yedioth Ahronoth reporter
Published: 25.08.13, 07:57
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31. WHO REALLY CARES? Nixon's dead and HK is obsolete!
lildoobird ,   Jerusalem   (08.25.13)
32. Peter #21, by Day 8, the war was basically one
Jake   (08.25.13)
The American supplies starting arriving on the 8th day of the Yom Kippur War, by which time the IDF had repulsed the attacks, was deep inside Egypt and Syria, had encircled the Egyptian 3rd army, and the outcome of the war was already decided. Instead of honoring the outcome of the war, Nixon gave Kissinger a free hand to blunt the Israeli victory on the battlefield and hand the Arab aggressors a diplomatic victory.
33. #19, The IDF was already victorious in '73
Jake   (08.25.13)
by Day 8, when the American supplies starting arriving. The outcome of the war was already clear. Read the details of the war's progression. The Arab forces had been repulsed and the IDF was deep inside Egypt and Syria. Nixon and Kissinger's main contribution to the outcome of the war was to blunt Israel's victory by handing Egypt and Syria a diplomatic victory.
34. What's more shocking is Kissinger agreed with him.
Jake   (08.25.13)
One can hardly be surprised by Nixon launching an antisemitic diatribe. But what shocked me the most was Kissinger, a Jew, responding to Nixon's comments about Jews. Kissinger replied, “I agree completely. They brought it on themselves.”
35. The tales and distractions
Brod ,   USA   (08.25.13)
Hussien's Leftists bring out these old tales on Nixon just to create distractions from those who are planning to impeach Hussien the Islamist. The media should stop peddling craps tarnishing the President Nixon who saved Israel in the 1973 War. Nixon was one of the best Presidents that America had had.
36. He was a small man, but when it really counted...
David ,   Hartford USA   (08.26.13)
he came through for Israel. For that alone, he should be remembered as Israel's greatest friend. Had Kissinger not been the shmuck he was, Israel probably wouldn't have lost so many good men.
37. Nixon was infinitely preferable to Obama.
Chaim ,   Israel   (08.26.13)
Nixon may have slurred Jews in private. However, he was very supportive of Israel. That makes Nixon infinitely preferable to Obama, who sometimes mouths nice things about Jews but who attacks Israel's welfare every chance he gets. Obama is the worst kind of liar and hypocrite.
38. Solomon @ 23 ,...
split ,   US   (08.26.13)
Look at the price we have paid ,... Oil embargo and sky high oil prices resulted in the destruction of US auto industry ,... The industry never recuperated - Those “friends” weren't stupid after all by saying 'we pass' they took advantage of skyrocketing oil prices by flooding US market with small/cheap cars and that was the end of Detroit. Needless to mention but also the beginning of the demise of US as an industrial superpower ,...
39. He helped Israel and that's what counts
Laila ,   Montreal, Canada   (08.26.13)
He helped Israel and that's what counts.
40. #32, #33 jake
solomon ,   bklyn   (08.26.13)
The battle of Chinese Farm took place on the 16th, 10 days after October 6th. Israeli forces had crossed the canal, but Chinese Farm had to be cleared before more could do so; they were far from encircling the Egyptians. Dayan said that US ammunition was sent directly to the front upon delivery at the air fields. How could the advances continue without ammunition? I trust Dayan's word more than yours. Follow your own advice: read the details of the war's progression. And learn how to add [Oct] 6 to 8.
41. #28 david
solomon ,   bklyn   (08.26.13)
Jews are not traitors...and they are. We have both, saints (if I may use that word) and villians. We are a mixture, like any other people on earth. We may feel we have much more good people than bad people, but the bad ones are there. Blanket statements about all Jews don't ring true, as they don't ring true about any people.
42. Jews in America had no problems with Nixon in 1973.
Michael ,   California, USA   (08.26.13)
I never met a young American "Jew" who doubted his or her loyalty to America or doubted being American first. Maybe the older generation, especially some of the immigrants (those who were not born in the U.S.) expressed some doubt, but it did not affect their children, I think. America breeds loyalty by simply being a very good country in which ant-Semitism is illegal. Not that you won't run into an individual anti-Semite once in a while, a law breaker, just as you can run into a "Jew" once in a while who only loves his ilk.
43. #30 sorry, but I beg to differ
solomon ,   bklyn   (08.26.13)
Yes, there are many Poles much like split. But there are many others who are not. Yes, many are infused with anti-semitism. But the ones I know run the gamut from idiots to intellingent...as all peoples do.
44. #38 split
solomon ,   bklyn   (08.26.13)
The recent economy destroyed the auto industry, not the embargo. The embargo pushed us to be more oil-independent. Resupplying Israel showed that the US is a superpower. As usual, your "facts" are twisted and made-up to suit your wishful thinking. Your posts have no connection to reality whatsoever. Never have, never will.
45. #40 solomon
Jake   (08.26.13)
Regarding the encirclement of the Egyptian army and the battle of Chinese Farm and the main crossing of Suez Canal, I concede you are right. These did occur after the first 8 days of the Yom Kippur War, and so it was not correct for me to say that war was essentially won by the 8th day. However, I do think that the outcome of the war was not in doubt by that point, because both the Egyptians and Syrian offensives had been turned back by that point and the IDF was already making significant gains beyond the ceasefire lines that had existed prior to the beginning of that war. The Wikipedia article on the Yom Kippur War states that by Oct. 14, " the IDF had advanced deep into Syria and was mounting a largely successful invasion of the Egyptian mainland from the Sinai, but had taken severe material losses. According to Abraham Rabinovich, "while the American airlift of supplies did not immediately replace Israel's losses in equipment, it did allow Israel to expend what it did have more freely"." The fact remains, however, that it was American pressure that forced Israel to take the first hit from the Egyptian/Syrian invasion, which was supported by the Soviets throughout the war, while Israel did not receive American support until the 8th day. The fact also remains that Kissinger's "shuttle diplomacy" blunted Israel's victory on the battlefield by handing the Arabs a significant victory on the diplomatic front.
46. May all Anti Semites be like him!!!!
Koose E Mack ,   NY USA   (08.26.13)
What Nixon said and did are two different stories....As #39, Laila so correctly stated...No one helped Israel more during the Yom Kippur War then RM Nixon. He sent huge amounts of war material to Israel; including the brand new TOW Missile Jeeps, aircraft, tanks, and ammunition. He acted as the finger of G-d to save Israel from the Arab onslaught. Without his help, the war would have had a much graver outcome for us. So, perhaps he was not perfect...but his actions certainly contradicted his anti Jewish diatribes. Action speaks louder than words!!!!!!
47. Not all Polish people...are
Misha Hui ,   ny us   (08.26.13)
Anti Semites and/or ignoramii...Our resident mongoloids: Split and Grazeck, do not represent all of the Polish people in the US or in Poland. Some of my closest friends are Polish Christians and they are vehemently pro Israel and pro Jewish. Every race and creed has its aberrations...but let's not generalize.
48. #42. "Anti-Semitism is illegal" in America.
Chaim ,   Israel   (08.26.13)
#42 Michael. Once again, on what alternative universe do you reside?
49. # 44 ,...
split ,   US   (08.26.13)
Google '1973 oil crisis' and read for a change instead of running your mouth ,...
50. KooseEmack hear me out...
Dror ,   Haifa, Israel   (08.27.13)
Who was it that convinced Golda to stand down in 73'? Despite several clear intel warnings and alerts she stood down, why? Many historians and insiders on all sides in Israel, America, Egypt, Russia (most importantly) know the real reasons why. Recorded history and Golda's apologists will claim that she calculated that it would be best not to seem like the aggressor in another mid east war but rather as a defender, this is TOTAL hogwash. The real reason she stood down was because she was coerced by Kissinger and Nixon in secret. She thought that having to sacrifice some of the frontline defenders on the Bar Lev line would be worth the cost for getting America to become Israel's military patron and for eventually removing the Soviets from Egypt. It was all contrived and premeditated. She died not to long after the war from lung cancer I believe. She smoked herself to death from being guilt ridden for all of the losses we suffered during that war because of her miscalculations of expedience and dirty politics. To this day we are lackies of America because of her decisions.. this will end very soon.
51. Note to composing writers,.....
Gideon Reader   (08.27.13)
McCoy to Kirk: "He's DEAD Jim."
52. To #27 Split (Brained)
Steven ,   Rockville MD USA   (08.27.13)
Since both pro and contra Nixon views are represented by the talkbacks, Split can not incite any conflict, Thus he made the remark that US will not be the first world-power that the Jews will bring down. So, please mention the other world power the Jews destroyed. Do not tell me that it was Germany, since it was brought down by the Allied Forces. Could it be Poland, and you as a refugee unfortunately ended up on this side of the Atlantic, and since your arrival you live on the tax-payer's money. You most likely unwilling to work, and with your anti-social hateful mentality you can not keep a job not in the public and not in the private sectors. So, until you name those countries, shut-up and think (if you are able to perform such a simple function).
53. # 52 ,...
split ,   US   (08.27.13)
Spain, Russia, Ottoman Empire ,...
54. I was unaware of this....
Koose E Mack ,   NY USA   (08.27.13)
Where can I read about this....I can tell you that there are several books about Nixon and the Jews..... What you say is believable and logical...I'd like to know more about this. Thanks!
55. #30 ,...
split ,   US   (08.27.13)
"i worked with had no understanding of complex mathematical issues" If it wasn't for Polish math brains that deciphered Nazis Enigma code and shortened WWII for at least 2 years you wouldn't be running your mouth today. This fact alone have changed the outcome of the war. Nazis were much closer to have a nukes than you know and already working ballistic missile (V-2) delivery system ,... BTW It was the Polish partisans that stole a downed Nazi V-2 rocket and smuggled it to Allies ,...
56. #49 split
solomon ,   bklyn   (08.28.13)
An oil crisis is not the same as ruining an entire industry. Learn how to read before running off your mouth.
57. #45 jake
solomon ,   bklyn   (08.28.13)
I certainly agree with you about Kissinger's "shuttle diplomacy".
58. #53 split
solomon ,   bklyn   (08.28.13)
More proof that your posts have no connection to reality whatsoever. Never have, never will.
59. # 58 ,...
split ,   US   (08.28.13)
And Poland of course ,... Winter '38/39 - Prior to WWII, Polish Banks empty, Polish currency worthless, Polish tourists strangled in France to and from French Riviera. Spring '39 - Poles are chipping in their life savings in foreign currency, wedding rings, jewelry, silverware to help the government to buy some war toys to be able to defend their country from the Nazi war machine. No response from Jews and after defeat and occupation you could see a mountains of gold coins, jewelry, gold and silver (Jewish of course) at the waiting/processing rooms tables in concentration camps ,...
60. 56 - You talk too much ,...
split ,   US   (08.28.13)
... stop running your mouth and read what I have ask you to read ,...
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