Where the black hatted freaks can dictate where woman can pray and declare themselves as the only democracy in ME ,...

Do you ever get tired of your pointless Israel bashing which no one ever even pays any attention to? How much are you getting paid for this?

Hoffman slammed Bennett's decision, saying he was supporting extremist positions of religious chief "at the expense of Israel's Women Was it not other Israeli women and way more than the small odd group of WOW that stopped the WOW from making trouble at the most holiest place in Israel.

Only in israel can you make a racist statement like "black hatted freaks" and get away with antisemitism like you espouse. if it bothers you that haredi judaism is the authentic unchanged judaism of your grand parents and ancestors, thats not their problem, its yours.

They would be very popular with PLO and Hamas.

I once dated a woman like Anat Hoffman, leader of the Women of the Wall. She slammed me almost daily like Hoffman slammed Naftali Bennett for his compromise.

there are less than ten ladies protesting yet they seem to be able to grab the headlines. other groups can have hundreds of protesters yet no news media cares. What is their secret of success? is it that the news media likes them because they draw interest or the ''righteousness" of their demands? Or is it the money they have at their disposable to hire professional publicity agents to help stir up interest? I believe the latter.

I am NOT religious and completely oppose the women of the wall.

sounds like a democracy to me!

I am not Hareidi. I am a modern Orthodox Zionist women. I was at the kotel yesterday and offer the following observations. a. no idea where this "protest" is taking place. I didn't see anything or anyone. b. I do not need, or want the WOW praying where they can disturb me in my traditional Orthodox prayer. It has NOTHING to do with being Ultra and everything to do with MY rights, MY feelings etc. WOW could care less for anyone but themselves.Claiming only Hareidi opposition is setting up a smokescreen in an attempt to enlist the support of people who don't totally understand what they are doing. BTW re: no panhandling--How about enforcing that at the Kotel Plaza area too!

Speaks about audience... It's not like anyone invited those WOW gals in Israel. Can't keep the "gold" inside US gat? What a spill over... WOW!

This isn't egalitarianism, it's segregation. Once again, women are moved to the back of the bus. Bennett is solving the problem by exiling the women. This solution denies women equal access to the wall and exiles them to a distant locale. Why not move the Haridim, they are the ones who don't know how to behave. Why is it they are never expected to compromise?

It was very difficult to read this article with all the mistakes. It seems like a bad computer translation from the Hebrew. I would think Ynet would have better editors and proofreaders.

Look for 'split' and keep pounding ;) ,...

It looks like Ynet have an agenda, but a leap to 21 century is not on my black list ,...

Dude, I don't need any religion or black hatted freak as a middle man in my relation with my creator ,...

and don't truly believe factual history So even Jews who reject religion still believe the Haredi lie you read in #4 Until Jews shatter that lie and accept history and fact, Haredim will continue to rule you

Last time i checked LA is in the USA not Israel , you cannot even commit to Israel by making aliah yet you feel it your right to tell others how to live their lives in Israel, quite honestly its none of your bussiness, so keep your arm chair politics to your self as quite obviously the material trappings of LA life matter more to you.

of the the religion itself. without it what is the point? Pathetic. please, you are just digging yourself into a deaper and deaper hole....

The lie goes deeper than that. In Shmuel Aleph, the Jews demanded an absolute rule, a king in preference to the Judges. The concept of a king means absolute authority and such things as rabbinic courts. Basically, and forgive my over simplification it's come down to a battle between those who see religion as something fluid and evolving and those who see it as static. There are no winners and losers in this battle just division.

As I see it, the historical, Torah she-Bikhtav (Tanakh -- I can't write Biblical because Christians would, wrongly, presume their NT into what I'm posting), PRINCIPLES of Torah MUST be static while the details of application MUST progress along with mankind in order to remain relevant. I think the most basic problem is that liberals throw out the principles along with the details of application while the Ultra-Orthodox Haredim see only the details of application, have grown completely oblivious to the historical principles of Torah, and focus entirely on fighting against any progress in the details of application. They demonstrate by their repeated evil behavior that they have no more clue about the principles of Torah than the Reform and other non-Orthodox.

What are these Gentiles praying for,,,, a person goes to a wall to pray? Jews are suppose to pray in a Temple, Synagogue, Knesset, house of worship, Tabernacle,,, I mean what do and are these Gentiles praying for,,,,,,,,, to keep this confusion, and conflict going everyday to eternity? "Fullness of the Gentiles", has so much meaning you can believe and is so Prophetically correct. Geeesh, a Gentile praying at a wall,,,,,,,,,, Jews pray in a TEMPLE.

The separation of the sexes is not mandated by the Torah. The mandate comes from Halacha, laws propagated by the Rabbis. The basics idea was to prevent sin mostly by men. Here are some examples of Halacha made many years ago and in today's world appear to be overly excessive. 1. Staring at members of the opposite sex is also forbidden. The Torah states that it is forbidden to "gaze at idols." "Idols" in this refers is a reference to women. 2. The Pirkei Avot states that one should not socialize with women, including one's own wife, in order to avoid being sent to Gehinnom. If socializing with one's wife is a serious offense, how much worse is it to socialize with other women? 3. Family members should not eat meals together, or even in the same room at the same time, even on Sabbath and on festivals. It is preferable that the women eat while the men attend shul, and the men eat after arrival home. The time in which men are in shul is viewed as a time for women to be separated from men in the home. In public 4. Men, especially, when in public, must strive to avoid to inevitable site of women. Jewish women have an obligation to avoid having themselves seen by men. 5. Attendance at an event with mixed gender seating, such as a wedding, concert, or meeting, is forbidden. Even if a man is not seated directly next to a woman, he is putting himself at risk.

Perhaps the women who follow Jewish tradition are at the Kotel every day and the handful of WoW come once a month with their publicity stunt and media circus. It's neither Minhag Avoseinu nor Minhag haMakom for women to don tefillin and tallis or to lein from a Sefer Torah. They were given a separate area for their service and they are welcome to then join the main Western Wall Plaza. Everywhere in the world there are separate sites for traditional and reform Jewish worship. This was the view of the Israeli Supreme Court. Kasiva v'Chasima Tova.

Each of your examples is inaccurate. According to Reb Moshe Feinstein in Ingros Moshe, the separation during prayers is a Halacha leMoshe Mi'Sinai and not Rabbinic as you suggest. Gazing at women is prohibited if you have immoral intentions, but also because it's offensive to women. Pirkei Avos says a man shouldn't behave in a manner that lowers him in his wife's eyes. Points 3, 4 and 5 are simply not true.

Every holy place has its own etiquette. In churches men take off their hats, in mosques and Hindu temples people take off their shoes, in synagogues men and married women cover their hair. Those who reject etiquette should do so discreetly. It is not Minhag Jerusalem for women to don tefillin and wrap themselves in men's talisos to lein from a Sefer Torah. They are welcome to do such things at a separate area of the Kosel and then to join the Ezras Nashim of the Western Wall Plaza, where people of all faiths are welcome.