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IDF soldier's murder: Shin Bet's race against time
Yoav Zitun
Published: 22.09.13, 01:07
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1. Will Israel ever introduce capital punishment?
Jack ,   San Diego, USA   (09.22.13)
2. #1
Rhonda ,   Chicago, USA   (09.22.13)
I think they need to.
3. Punishment
USA   (09.22.13)
1. Blow up the terrorist's house! Then flatten it with bulldozers so that is simply flat dirt unrecognizable as anything that was there before. 2. Life improsonment for the Nidal Amar!!!! 3. Pass a law that provides for automatic life sentence for anyone who kidnaps, or kills during a kidnapping. 4. Pass another law that automatically increases the prison sentence to life of the prisoner, whom terrorists are trying to free. That should be a deterrent.
4. All terrorists and proven murderers should be executed!
Son of Cyrus ,   UK   (09.22.13)
5. #1- maybe a good solution but ..
Michael Redbourn ,   Lisbon Portugal   (09.22.13)
Apart from the moral question, as far as I know the death penalty didn't lower murder rates in the US where the death penalty is permitted - Texas for example.
6. @1 after see how it serves as a deterrent in U.S. - NO!
Israel ,   Israel   (09.22.13)
You people have the death penalty and you have terrorist and murderers buying ALL of their weapons on-line and at local grocery stores... so how does having capital punishment deal with YOUR kidnapping (how many Amber alerts did you have this year?) and murder problem (you have the highest murder rate in the world)? Rest it Jack, just rest it. Your MEGA-STUPID is showing
7. Shabak/Tzahal, excellent job
CJK   (09.22.13)
were it only that tomer hazan was found alive. it is imperative that soldiers and also civilians be more cautious. they must be told never to go to jehuda/shomron on their own. they must resist the normal human instinct to be kind to arab palestinians. many of the tragedies of terror that have been perpetrated against jewish israelis were the result of unearned trust and kindness.
8. Bibi keepon dealing with terrorist show them how week
NATAN ,   ISRAEL   (09.22.13)
we are!!
9. It's not about the Shin Bet
Eliyahu ,   Rehovot   (09.22.13)
Should we congratulate the Shin Bet because we won't trade a hoard of murderers for the body of one of our slain? H-ll we let them go for free, for a lie now. It is murder plain and simple. It's about another poor soul that was offered on the altar of a morally missing government.
10. You'll Excuse Me
Larry ,   Margaliot   (09.22.13)
But this entire article reads like a PR campaign on behalf of the Shabak and the IDF. The soldier was abducted, murdered and thrown into a well. He died. It is nice that the entire establishment looked for him, but he was murdered. As to the hovering question of whether releasing 104 killers under American pressure helps motivate murderers like those who killed Tomer, Z"L, the answer is probably yes.
11. 10.
Birdi ,   Israel   (09.22.13)
Spot on, exactly my thoughts. (Too angry to comment further)
12. @ 6
Sheik Rattle & Roll ,   USA   (09.22.13)
Take it easy. #1 Just asked a simple question, and you reacted like he was attacking Israeli society. You are right, capital punishment doesn't work. The US does have a major problem and if you do the math it is worse off than some "war zones". That is why the US should stay away from all world conflicts and aid no other country and focus within,
13. I Admit, Birdi
Larry ,   Margaliot   (09.22.13)
I care less these days - not about the Jewish murder victims like Tomer - but about the country and the people. Perhaps it is cynicism that grows out of a feeling that people just really don't care all that much. Here, we await the inevitable explosion with Hizbollah, and feel like the residents of the 'otef Aza' districts. If it comes, and we are bombed, most of the Tel Avivi's will live to drink another capuccino or macchiato. But that's okay, we drink them up here too, and we too wish away reality. Chag Sameach.
14. 11 Birdie
CJK   (09.22.13)
the infitadas happened for the simple reason of arab hatred. we should not blame the government for this horrific murder. the soldier, unfortunately, was not cautious.
15. #1, #2 and others: No, Israel won't.
Dee Bee ,   The Galilee, Israel   (09.22.13)
The reason is that you cannot have double standards and Israel will never execute an Israeli for terrorism or murder. The death penalty is certainly warranted in cases of terrorism and even murder where there is no doubt whatsoever of the guilt of the killer but it will never fly here.
16. The government has to carry its part of the guilt.
eli ,   Yerushalayim   (09.22.13)
If we wouldn't free terrorists and murders, there wouldn't have been a motive to kill Tomer. Capital punishment now!!! - in order to prevent more cases like this. If there isn't anybody to free, there is no reason to kidnap and to kill. And maybe they start to think twice before they commit terror acts in the future, if they know the price and that they cannot expect to become heroes after a short term in prison.
17. #3 - #4
Sarah ,   The Netherlands   (09.22.13)
Does that count for all killers? I remember 2 Palestinian women, killed by Israelis. His sentence? 45 days in prison. Disgusting.
18. shin bet failed!!!!.period.
meyer ,   israel   (09.22.13)
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19. This kid is dead because he was stupid
Dror ,   Haifa, Israel   (09.22.13)
Not my intention to spit on a dead man's grave, but this guy was somewhat dafook barosh. How can you be so gullible? How can you believe any of these people? Yes, I will teach my child not to trust them, not to get near them, and to always be wary of them if he is anywhere around them. The Arabs of Haifa are slightly more trustworthy and tolerable than the palis, but I keep my distance from them as well. No need to mingle with them either.
20. # 5 Chicago needs the death penalty
BUILD BABY BUILD !!! ,   United States   (09.22.13)
more home grown violence than any other American city, obama's home town needs the death penalty. Is part of Texas's problem the drug trade from mexico? Why should all the criminals have all the fun? Whether or not the death penalty is a deterrent, is debatable but, is it fair for the public to pay for appeals and lawyers to keep a killer alive? An eye for an eye worked for eons.
21. # 17 Tell the folks what these two pal women did?
BUILD BABY BUILD !!! ,   United States   (09.22.13)
pals use terror as a weapon, if the pals play with fire, they get burned. This is a war and as they say, "all's fair in love and war." Muslims have no use for women, you know that. If the Israeli's didn't off them the pals most certainly would. Explain also, if you will, "honor Killings". And, those particularly nasty 'female circumcisions' where many women die as a result. Please do, I'm waiting. Like you give a rats ass about these women......
22. Isn't there any law
Raphael ,   Netanya   (09.22.13)
That prevents greedy employers to hire illegal palestinian intruders? The restaurant of Bat Yam where both the victim and the killer were working should be sentenced to a painful penalty.
23. to #18: Sarah - how dare you?
(09.22.13)
How dare you calling us Israelis "disgusting" from far away Netherland? What do YOU know about whaty is going on here beside what you here in the media? For your information, contrary to the false Palestinian propaganda it isTHEM who murder Israelis on a daily basis and not us. It's always them who stab babies in their sleep, it is always them - a gang of Palestinian men who stab to death two middle age tourists, nit even Jews, because they thought they were Jews. It is always them who fire missiles deliberately on schools and kindergartends. It is always them who stab Jews in the old city of Jerusalem and EVERYWHERE they can. It is always them who try to savagely lynch Jews who find themselves by mistake in their neighborhoods or villages. It's always the Arabs who are violent, ssavage. In Jerusalem where I live you see that everyday. You're afraid to cross a park or walk in a deserted area only because of frear of Arab who will attack you - because it's always them who are the criminals in Jerusalem and all over Israel. It's the bad mentality. It's the savagery. It's the bad education or non education they get from their parents and their communities.
24. 13.
Birdi ,   Israel   (09.22.13)
Larry, if you get bombed, Tel-Aviv will get bombed as well. Hezbollah has threatened so, they have the long range missiles which can reach the center. Btw, there are many of us who do care & who do feel for the residents in the north & in the south. Huge changes by our government are necessary. We need leaders whom we can respect! Hag Sameach to you.
25. 14.
Birdi ,   Israel   (09.22.13)
The blame lies with the low life Arab who killed Hazan. I am against releasing any Palestinian prisoners. Hatred is the only emotion the Palestinians know & we can thank their leaders for inciting this hatred.
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