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'Vengeful' teenage yeshiva students suspected of J'lem hate crimes
Noam (Dabul) Dvir
Published: 06.10.13, 16:39
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1. Can you blame them?
BUILD BABY BUILD ,   United States   (10.06.13)
It's human nature to retaliate. KEEP BUILDING RETURNING JEWS NEED AFFORDABLE HOMES!!
2. Just punishments for their crime
Mark ,   Cleveland USA   (10.06.13)
In addition to their families having to pay the cost of the damages, these young people should be forced to do community service in Arab neighborhoods, and work for Arab-Israeli families, so that they can learn about the people who they have stereotyped and targeted unjustly.
3. Telling words
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (10.06.13)
"Eventually we will have to catch them and there will be violence." Sounds like a big old threat to me. So, I am certain that should Israeli civilians go after ARAB rock-throwers and catch them, the Arabs will have no problem. Sauce for the goose is, after all, sauce for the gander as well. That would be a useful bit of information for Arabs to retain in their prefrontal lobes, you know?
4. #3 SB
(10.06.13)
Quoting Sarah B=" Sauce for the goose is, after all, sauce for the gander as well." So these brats should be treated the same way that the IDF treats Palestinian kids then? I am glad you agree. Lock 'em up and don't let their parents visit them or into the court. Oh and shackle them and give them a proper haircut too!
5. #1 BBB
(10.06.13)
Quote"It's human nature to retaliate". So you just justified the actions of Palestinians. Thank you!
6. Not out of the ordinary
USA   (10.06.13)
When the enemy attacks, states do the same thing on a larger and/or more sophisticated level. Give the boys a few lectures, and let them go.
7. Suffering of Jerusalem's Jews
TelAvivBubble ,   Jerusalem Israel   (10.06.13)
There isn't a day that goes by that Jewish young people and adults in the Old City of Jerusalem and nearby areas that they must pass through do not suffer physical and verbal abuse by Arabs The Jews of Jerusalem truly live on guard 24/7 regardless of age and should be given a special medal just because they live there . Those living in the "Tel Aviv coastal area bubbles" seemingly don't understand the reality here.
8. ISRAEL
daniel ,   the world   (10.06.13)
the lord desire for israel is that they go and teach others about him,israel is to be a nation of priests,prophets and missionaries to the world,the lord intent is for israel to be a distinct people,a nation who pointed others towards him and his promised provision of a redeemer,messiah and savior,The lord did not set his affection on you and choose you because you were more numerous than other peoples,for you were the fewest of all peoples but it was because the lord loved you and kept the oath he swore to your forefathers that he brought you out with a mighty hand and redeemed you from the land of slavery,know therefore that the lord is the faithful,keeping his covenant of love to a thousand generations of those who love him and keep his commands
9. To: No. 2
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (10.06.13)
I guess it goes without saying, then, that you believe that Arab punks and thugs who stone cars driven by Jews and vandalize Jewish graves and houses of worship should have their families pay the cost of damages and that they should be forced to do community service in Jewish neighborhoods and work for Jewish Israeli families so that they can learn about the people whom they have stereotyped and targeted unjustly. Isn't that right, Mark? Isn't that what you're preaching? Equity? Or are Arabs somehow magically exempt from your myopic concept of justice?
10. Biased report!
Abraham Nachmias ,   Petach Tikva IL   (10.06.13)
In the first place the neighborhood is called Shimon HaTzadik for Israel (that's why we have the right to return to the houses stolen by the Jordans in 1948. In the second place, arab teens do this all the time and when they get caught the order for IDF soldiers (if they are minors) is to free them after 2 hours! Please! try to defend your country a little bit more!!!
11. Minors?
JACK ,   israel   (10.06.13)
Being minors they have been send home. Very nice ! But the parents are responsible for they minors children. they must pay for all the damages their kids have done and if necessary send to jail.
12. This only proves that
Edithann ,   Miami   (10.06.13)
Kahane was right!!!! The so called Palestinians want everything which they are not entitled to which only proves how right the Rabbi was. Thet must go!!!!!!!! TATA
13. Fake Jews
Semis Stois ,   Birmingham, U.K.   (10.06.13)
The fake Jew in the so-called Holy Land,,,, the ground of Canaan is surely in pain.
14. hatred to arabs ??
shadi - Gaza strip ,   Gaza strip   (10.06.13)
they committed crimes against Arab civilians and their properties just because they are arabs ?? so why do you blame arabs in Gaza and west bank for their hate to the Israeli people ... Don't you know that many Arabs serve in the Israeli army and they themselves killed civilan arabs in Gaza strip just because they consider themselves Israelis ?? go and destroy their properties as well ... after all , they are Arabs for ever
15. Veshiva students understand
Ezra ,   San Diego   (10.06.13)
I have to take the side of the teenage yeshiva students. They need to have their wrists slapped, then released (so they can regroup and finish the job).
16. Fake Jews?
Ben ,   USA   (10.06.13)
As opposed to what real Jews? Definition determined by whom? You-most likely a rabid anglican anti-Semite or Arab living in the Uk? You probably think that Arabs are descendants of the Canannites. Just to set the record straight, no legitimate scholar believes that the Arabs living in Israel are anything but Arabs who migrated there from other Arab countries. Most of them only within the last 100 years, only after Jews began arriving and creating jobs and a better life for them. The Canaanites as a people disappeared just like most ancient civilizations. The only people who still exist from that era who are in Israel are the Jews. Read something other that anti-Semitic propaganda for a change and learn the facts.
17. Get a taste, Aravim,
ASTRONAUT ,   SC,USA   (10.06.13)
of the coarse hatred you have directed to the Jews for centuries.
18. They are right
A french guy ,   Paris, France   (10.06.13)
Israelis are at war. Police and army don't act as they should to protect jewish people from arabs. Politics prefer 'negociate' with fatah while they keep trying to kill jewish children and asking for terrorists release. These teens have my support.
19. King Herod the Arab and converted Jew
Semis Stois ,   Birmingham, U.K.   (10.06.13)
The so-called King Herod a real person in real time was Nabatean Arab, a convert to the Hebrew faith, just as the Roman=Palestinians, some, as the Hasmoneans, Sellucids, Hellenics and Edomite to become Arab%Hebrew.... Hebrews were/are and ethnic group of black and brown peoples that did interbreed with the Canaanites/Egyptian Hamitic peoples of old,, as present day Israel was a Hamitic colony in the ancient world. The Sumerians(brown skinned peoples) Chaldean peoples of Ur, present day Iraq, Abraham's peoples migrated/fled an Indo-Aryan Caucasian invasion of their country from the north,,, Tanakh "get thee from thy house", migrated to Canaan interbreeded and hence our marvelous Hebrew peoples, shaped by G-d, time, sins, mistakes and a future redemption, these Hebrews,, these peoples are such, of which this modern day Euro-Jew and Meditereinian Mullatto DNA Arab(Israelis) think they are.
20. So what......
David ,   On this planet   (10.06.13)
Arabs have been doing this every day for over 65 years. The arabs and their lefty friends are angry, and that british pompous jack ass who claim Israelis are fake Jews, get a life moron
21. Responsibility
A Jerusalemite ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (10.06.13)
1. These boys have learned that attacking innocent Arabs passing on the road or riding in a bus is acceptable behaviour. This can be attributed to their families and yeshivot only. Punishment therefore must be applied to the parents and teachers. 2. Young Arab boys that throw rocks are punished severely including being beaten by some soldiers and police.. These young Jewish boys must NOT be allowed to get away with the same behaviour! 3. As noted above: "If it ends without a conviction they'll be encouraged and will understand that the police closes such cases," This is a true statement and must be acted upon. 4. The fact that children, be they Arabs or Jews, are afraid to go to school alone is anathema to all thinking people. I went through that with my children during the bus bombings in Jerusalem. There is nothing so horrid as a terrified child!
22. SIMPLY RULE OF LAW: Break the law, go to prison.
Jewish Doctor ,   AMERICA THE BEAUTIUL   (10.06.13)
It doesn't matter if your white or black, brown blue or orange...break the law, get caught, go to trial, sentence, prison... what else? Trade them for gaza prisoners? auto draft into army? RULE OF LAW: Break the law, go to prison.
23. Law must be followed
Rhonda ,   Chicago, Usa   (10.06.13)
I hope they prosecute them to the fullest extent of the law. We cannot have a democratic Israel if the laws are disregarded.
24. To: No. 13
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (10.06.13)
The ground has been in considerable pain since the Arabs charged through it, raping, pillaging and stealing. That is why it was barren and unyielding for centuries, and did not become lush and fertile until the Jewish people returned to reclaim that which has always been ours.
25. To: No. 21
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (10.06.13)
Surely you know that the overwhelming rock-throwing attacks are committed by Arabs. Where is the uproar over that, and when does enough become far too much? How many more Palmer families and Pass families and Fogel families should we endure until the Arabs learn that spilling Jewish blood and threatening Jewish lives will not be tolerated?
26. If The State
Ariel ben Yochanan ,   Kfar Tapuah, Efraim   (10.06.13)
B"H - If the State was Jewish and the IDF a Jewish army and if they did what they were supposed to do, that is to protect the Jews, as opposed the "citizens of the State", than this would not have happened.
27. When Arabs do it, its called a "nationalist crime"
Jake ,   USA   (10.06.13)
When Jews do it, its "fueled by hatred of Arabs".
28. Young "attackers"
Annie ,   Israel   (10.06.13)
Get real guys. Tzahal doesn't even bother to go after or arrest the scores of Arab kids who DAILY throw stones along dozens of roads in Israel. At most, they chase them away. Personally, I don't think Jewish kids (or any kids for that matter) should be throwing stones or damaging property, but give the Jewish kids the same treatment as the Arabs get. A lecture and sent home. I have yet to hear of an Arab family having to pay for damage to moving cars, hospitalization, etc. etc. to Jews. It's a laugh to even mention it. Once upon a time we used to destroy the homes of Arab terrorists but then that was condemned as unfair communal punishment. So please.... don't talk to me about Jewish parents paying damages. If the police and army did their job (if the government let them...) all this would end.
29. ISRAEL
daniel ,   the world   (10.06.13)
village remember the grace when the almighty cause among you prophets and made you holy and righteous,giving you what they had not come to any in the world,village enter the holy land which the lord has destined you and not return on your evil steps if not,weary,having lost
30. Build Baby Build.
David Clarke ,   Liverpool, England   (10.06.13)
It wasn't an act of retaliation it was a violent act of racist extremism, those Arabs who were victims of these individuals are Israeli citizens seeking to earn a living and a livelyhood, they live peacefully alongside their Jewish neighbours, they have done nothing to warrant this vicous assault and the last thing they want is to be attacked by gangs of violent right-wing religious extremists. The fact that you think the violent racist extremism shown by the Yeshiva Students is somehow justified because they attacked Arabs shows what a disgusting, small minded, bigoted and racist individual you are for supporting acts of racist violence against innocent people simply because of their race.
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