that one day the so called "Jordan" will become Palestine or whatever the Arabs occupying Israel want to call themselves. Bon Voyage on your way to the promised land (but not in my backyard!)

Well mr. Schiffer, it´s always easy to critizise but I´m still waiting for you to come with a better suggestion of how to end the conflict.

This good op-ed misses one point. It is palestinians who try to use israeli arabs as a fifth column for undermining israel today and tomorrow. So this recognition is needy. If there wasn't their willingness to use the league of arab "palestinians" in the knesset, i don't think it would be a so great sacrifice giving this recognition.

For every deal-breaking Palestinian demand - right of return, we put up an equivalent - recognizing Israel as a Jewish state. When they give up on their demand, we will give up on our's. Give and take applies to both sides, not only Israel giving and Palestinians taking. We have been down that road before and now it's a dead end, as it should be.

Sorry, but Bibi is nowhere near being Churchill.

What gives you the right to state what Begin would do. You clearly do not understand the reason for insisting that the Palestinians accept Israel as the Jewish State. Failure to do this will reasult in UN demands that the right of return must apply equally to Jews and Arabs, and this will eventually entirely eliminate the Jewish State. I recommend you read Martin Shermans article in last week's Jerusalem Post to obtain a much more authoratative view on this subject

Why so coy?

The article simply attacks Bibi for not coming up with alternative ideas but doesn't suggest even one new idea. Simple negative articles of this kind, that offer nothing except a venting of the spleen by the authors can be churned out all day by anybody without a moments thought. I must add Shimon Shiffer to my "don't bother to read list".

Dear Author. U suggest NO alternative. Dont slander yr PM.

Netanyahu cannot negotiate a peace with the Palestinian people without eroding his government and endangering his position as Prime Minister of Israel. Netanyahu is only interested in Netanyahu, the long term survival of Israel is not his primary concern, never has been never will be And this situation will remain until the vast majority of normal decent Israelis living in Israel proper realise that they are being held hostage by settlers, many of whom are dual nationals and who, at the first hint of trouble will return fron whence they came.

Resettlement to the East has already been tried, as has placing settlers o take over the land and businesses of the country occupied Didn't turn out well for the regime that proposed it, and pursued it

So, in your view we're like the Nazi Germans if we insist on a viable (for us) solution? A solution it is, whether you & Arabs fancy it or not. It is only a question of logistics and fair compensation. Nobody is talking ethnic cleansing a la Stalin/Mao or past Israeli governments (Gaza )

The solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict - the only REALISTIC solution! - is as follows: Israel withdraws to 1967 borders, with some minor changes (agreed to by two parties in negotiations) and dismantles the settlements. The Palestinian side gives up the right to return for refugees, bans all terrorist organizations, accepts to be demilitarized state and all Arab countries plus Iran recognize Israel and end the hostilities. Any non-delusional person on the face of the Earth (Yes, I mean both you "Judea/Samaria are part of Israel" people and you "Wipe the Zionist state off the map" people) realizes this farily basic thing.

What the writer is advocating is the creation of an arab terrorist state in Judea and Samaria aligned with the terrorist state of iran, situated at the gates of Jerusalem and Gush Dan. Enabling the terrorists and the terrorist ally iran, to build tunnels, shoot missiles, wage a war of terror and mayhem resulting in the deaths and maimings of thousands of jewish children, women and men. Afgterwards, like Gaza, he and his ilk, will say, I MADE A MISTAKE!

The author belongs to the club that believes that if only Israel made a suitable offer there would be peace. The assumption is wrong. The majority of Palestinians don't want anything that leaves a Jewish majority Israel for he long term. They will take the West Bank and Jerusalem for the short term. Since the West and liberal Jews want to give it to them they think that is easy pickings. Even Hamas would take it as a starter. If there is to be peace Palestinians will have to understand that there will be no right of return nor will West Bank and diaspora Palestinians be made citizen of Israel. Neither by force nor by intellectual argument will Jews give up being a majority in Israel and Palestinians want it all.

Churchil would not have negotited with the PA, he would have urged that any Arab that does not support Israel should leave it. Churchill recognized evil and did not negotitate with it. he fought it and won.

There is already a Palestinian state under security control from nationalist murders.Those Murders happen elsewhere their they are gangland murders huge in Mexicand South America.Viscious Civil war in Syria Severe Grumbling in Eygpt and Iraq Afghanistan has Tribal warlords the USA cannot pass its budget There is not yet a Remedial Finality.

Bibi is no Churchill he is a Chamberlain his legacy will be mud he will be a traitor if he sales out Israel and the Jewish People

2 states is not feasible militarily and geographically. Arabs can never be trusted on security even if god sanctionned it. They are liars and part of a death culture. they enjoy blood and death from bludgeoned bodies. yes the US has pushed 2 states formula after the rotten peres beilin advocated it. it didn't work. It was tried. israel has to tell the US to piss off. Europe is as gutless as they come as they are held hostage by their ownmoslems in fear of suicide bombings in london and madrid. When israel stands up for itself especially vis a vis US, it will do better. The answer to the PLO is east bank-end of story. they can choose that or tickets to allah cause the whole place will be blown up especially once bennett or feiglin take over since bibi is yesterday's man. But you simon are a shimon peres idealogue, a gutless fool and sadly israel has its share of them.

The author belongs to the club that believes that if only Israel made a suitable offer there would be peace. The assumption is wrong. The majority of Palestinians don't want anything that leaves a Jewish majority Israel for he long term. They will take the West Bank and Jerusalem for the short term. Since the West and liberal Jews want to give it to them they think that is easy pickings. Even Hamas would take it as a starter. If there is to be peace Palestinians will have to understand that there will be no right of return nor will West Bank and diaspora Palestinians be made citizen of Israel. Neither by force nor by intellectual argument will Jews give up being a majority in Israel and Palestinians want it all.

We will wait a see what happens at the end of the nine months negotiations. The EU is interested to solve this conflict more than the US. The EU has a list of sanctions if this negotiations go no where.

Speaking about "two states for two peoples", what does it really mean? First define on which territory? On the territory of the "Mandate for Palestine"? Then the picture is very clear: a solution between Israel and Jordan, Jordan being involved in solving the so-called Palestinian issue. Rabin, who never was the champion of the Oslo agreements, as the Left obstinately tries to convince the public, never spoke about "two states for two people". He spoke about "a third independent state that would serve as a time bomb against Jordan as well as Israel". Read in my post # 5 in this same column "We've learned nothing from Rabin murder", the interview Rabin gave to the Belgian TV.

STOP IT NOW !!!

I agree with everything you say. The one thing you did not touch on was Jerusalem. Maybe that was part of the "minor changes " you mention. Ramallah should be the capital of the State of Palestine. I will then grudginly say Tel Aviv should remain the capital of Israel and Jerusalem to be an open city to all with religious sites also open to all. Where we have the fly in the ointment is Hamas. Having the PA agree to all is one thing. Having Hamas agree to anything other than "Palestine" being free of Jews is a whole other problem.

"Tel Aviv should remain the capital of Israel" When has Tel-Aviv EVER been the capital?

And I suggest all Swedes wake up tomorrow with green skin and Stockholm suffers a 50° C heat wave in December. Now, whose suggestion is sillier, yours or mine? By recognizing Israel, arab countries would be slandering their holy quran, even the more "moderate" arab countries such as Jordan (is that really peace, or simply... no war just stay away?) Look for example at the Tunisian tennis player who was forbidden to play an Israeli just a few days ago. Arab (and Iranian) recognition and acceptance of Israel will happen when they throw away their islamic hate manual and decide to join the rest of civilization. The "palestine" fantasy is only a tool to enforce and maintain their hatred of Judaism and Israel.

I have a place where YOU can go, braindead, but bring your suntan creme, it gets pretty warm there. At least you can enjoy the company of Adolf, Saddam, Yasser and the rest of your friends and idols, and MAYBE even learn to write a sentence in proper English, I believe the American George Lincoln Rockwell is there to help you.

Bibi is not living in vacuum. The Obama clan, the Marxist American Jewry, the N.Y.Times, Soros, J-street, Obama's court Jews, EU antisemites - all in unison pushing the leftist agenda to dismantle Israel. Of course they are using cleverly crafted oblique diction in accordance with PC "newspeak" rule, always wearing the mask of the "benevolent peaceniks". In the end the eternal Shakespearean question will arise: "To be or not to be".

...that both sides mutually agree on Jerusalem, with Israeli sovereignty over the Western Wall and the western parts of the city, whereas the Palestinians get the Arab neighborhoods and Haram al-Sharif. All according to the Clinton plan of 2000; it's as relevant today. As for Hamas: once there is a peaceful solution they will lose virtually all support for an armed struggle against Israel. They'll be gone in a jiffy!