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F-35s to carry Israeli developed helmet display
Udi Etsion
Published: 13.10.13, 14:01
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1. "Israeli company Elbit and the American Rockwell Collins"
split ,   US   (10.13.13)
Another coerced by Israel firster politicians project developed by US company, hijacked by Israelis. Here how it's done, "you want this project /contract than get yourself a 'partner' from Israel". To circumvent any security requirements the other side is required to open a subsidiary in US and voilà, no restrictions. For details google "U.S. and Israel agree to develop plan to boost trade",
2. Israel is also buying 19 F35's, do the math!
David ,   Montreal Canada   (10.13.13)
3. By the way ,...
split ,   US   (10.13.13)
This so called 'plan to boost trade' is a one way street ,...
4. The same helmet slammed in Vanity Fair review of F-35?
Raymond in DC ,   Washington, USA   (10.13.13)
A recent article in Vanity Fair about the very troubled F-35 project noted one of the serious problems was connected to the helmet provided by "Rockwell Collins and the Israeli company Elbit" which they report "works better on paper than in practice" and a myriad of problems including data latency, video resolution, and even a tendency to induce "spacial disorientation". The project continues, however, despite the ongoing problems. Too many have already signed off on it.
5. #1 fool
(10.13.13)
Most other countries have dumped the collosal waste of money known as the F-35. Israel is one of the few countries that isn't smart enough to avoid buying this airplane (ask Ehud Akirov Barak why), so it made sense to give Israel something.
6. Arab countries please don't worry....
Ivan ,   South Africa   (10.13.13)
Israel will put halaal stickers on the helmets you receive and a Star of David to remind you of their country of origin..
7. #2 - Israel is also buying 19 F35's ,...
split ,   US   (10.13.13)
Paying with money extorted from six-pack-Joe by the same politicians ,... Never ending sucking sound ,...
8. 4
zionist forever   (10.13.13)
The USAF has plenty of low production numbers of the F35 now and I am sure that there have been prototypes of all contending helmets made and then tested by pilots and the pilots seem happy enough with them. Remember all things have bugs in the early stages but they get worked out thats why they build prototypes and test them. Even with the discovery of the wheel there would have been problems like it being cut to rough but if they made it smoother then they would be able to use it faster and easier.
9. 1
zionist forever   (10.13.13)
The Pentagon was originally against even selling Israel the F35 full stop. Then Bibi & Barak managed not only to get the F35 but to also build 800 sets of wings for global F35 sales which is worth billions to Israel. Israel will be the only customer who allowed to have their planes modified to carry domestically made missiles everybody else has to buy American including the countries who invested hundreds of millions into the planes development. Israel managed to convince the US to allow it to install its own systems which originally the US was against because they were worried about protecting source codes. So between them Barak & Bibi not only secured the F35 for Israel but also get an agreement to install its own computer systems, modify it to carry domestic missiles no its own planes but also have a role to play in global exports. No other country will be building parts for the F35 apart from Turkey which is building under licence but they are not allowed to export.
10. SPLIT!!!
(10.13.13)
all your post amount to bull shit and lies. not only is the helmet in the f-35's israeli made and invented by elbit in israel, but so are the wing technologies in the f-35 completely invented in israel. as a matter of fact, there is a plant in israel that is actually constructing and building the wings for the f-35's in israel proper, with israeli technologies, etc... and by the way, the night vision goggles the usa army special ops uses for ages now as well as the tank shields to sense and destroy incoming missiles towards tank was developed in israel post the second lebanon war and sold to the american army. you are such a dud and a fool and so full of jew hate that you will lie, obfuscate and site examples of web sites that are full of conspiracy theories to support your bull shit. lay off that stuff. you or your intellectual abilities are not equipped to face facts or the truth. and please, spare us the web sites which are full of the most outlandish conspiracy theories on earth...fit only for the consumption of dead beats and morons such as yourself who will believe anything as long as it is anti jewish. common, give us all a break. the entertainment you provide is totally fabricated. stop right here. do not send another web site as an example of you so called information and knowledge. you are totally laughable. hameed aboughaze, iranian los angeles
11. #10 hameed - excellent post!

solomon ,   bklyn   (10.13.13)
But you are speaking to the willfully deaf, dumb and blind.
12. #1, #3, #7 split
solomon ,   bklyn   (10.13.13)
You always accuse Israel of not contributing anything to the US and its equipment. The US has decided this is the best helmet system, so they are using it. You twist and turn, but you never admit to reality. Never.
13. Strange story
Ivor Evenbiggergun   (10.13.13)
considering the RAF will be using the same helmet used in the Typhoon in the Lightning As the RAF's policy is interchangeability of pilots between types of aircraft.
14. split! I wonder why USAF is not using Polish helmets..?.
Alexander ,   Tel Aviv, Israel   (10.13.13)
..Maybe its because Polish helmets are primarily used by Polish farmers shoveling horse sh*t in the wonderfully rural, charming and intellectually backward Polish countryside? IAF produces, develops and manufactures the wings of F-35 IN ISRAEL. That's as INSIDE and geographically IN Israel. You can GOOGLE that as well. You can also GOOGLE the origins of Google - two Jews - an American Jews and a Russian Jew CONCEIVED, DEVELOPED and INVENTED Google. Oh - by the way splittie - Israel is the 2nd most educated country in the world, USA is 4th. Poland, Germany, France, the Scandinavian countries, Austria, Eastern Europe didn't even make it to the top 10 in the world. Buuhuu! I also wish to point out that you are willfully deaf, blind and dumb and mentally retarded - and we don't need to Google for that insight.
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zionist forever   (10.13.13)
The US is going to use a helmet designed by Eibit but as the US is not going to buy the helmets from an Israeli company Elbit will subcontract an American company like Rockwell Colins to build their design in the US but Elbit hold the patents so Rockwell Colins have to pay Elbit for the right to make it. Israel has a contract to build 800 sets of wings for global exports for the F35 but it did not design the wings. This deal was negotiated by Barak because costs of the plane were rising countries lots of bugs in the system so potential customers were pulling out. Alot of jobs are dependent on the F35 so an agreement was reached to allow Israel to modify its own planes to carry its own missiles and electronics make 800 sets of wings for global exports and course the Elbit helmet has been chosen as standard.
16. Strange story
Ivor Evenbiggergun   (10.13.13)
considering the RAF will be using the same helmet used in the Typhoon in the Lightning As the RAF's policy is interchangeability of pilots between types of aircraft.
17. Eat your heart out, split!
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (10.13.13)
No worries. I'm sure that if the United States ever needs a contract to develop paper hats, they'll find just the right Polish company with which to do business. Perhaps you can give the United States a head start and google around until you find the information. Don't forget to notify your congressman.
18. To: Raymond at No. 4
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (10.13.13)
Jane's had a very different take. Rockwell Collins has been quietly bumped from what had been a joint venture with Elbit, and the full contract given to Elbit. Rockwell just didn't have the requisite ability and just about everything for which they were responsible either was flawed or failed completely. Elbit now controls the entirety of the contract. Teledyne, General Dynamics and Raytheon have also being eased out, in favor of superior Israeli weapons technology and ability. The F-35 is now back on track, and it is because of Israeli capacity and Israeli innovation. There are only a few American companies left in the production of the F-35, and all of them are part of joint ventures with Israeli companies, most notably Boeing and Pratt & Whitney.
19. #13 ivor - not so strange a story
solomon ,   bklyn   (10.13.13)
It seems the US tries to improve every subsequent aircraft, knowing that pilots who learn how to fly the newer, different and better aircraft can also learn how to use a newer, different and better helmet.
20. usa evil empire in red,white and blue
daniel ,   u$a   (10.13.13)
one of the most perverse things about usa is that no matter how many countries the usa bombs,invades,exploits,threatens,regime changes or colonizes around the globe,many north americans still cling to the delusion that their country is a "force for good" in the world,usa is the land for free-which has freed hundreds of thousands people of their lives-usa is the beacon of liberty-as evidence by torture and secret cia prisons around the globe-.they are the fundamental and irreconcilable contradiction between what the usa claims to stand for and what the usa in reality is,more outrageous still is the fact that north americans accuse other nations of crimes of which usa is guilty a million times over,the usa demonizes the other as evil in order to uphold itself as the epitome of the good,you might call this uncle same evil doers hate our doctrine of us foreign policy.Behind all the patriotic propaganda is a more disturbing reality it is a lie,a nazi style big lie,it is all about expanding global usa dominance
21. 11
(10.13.13)
he can't help himself. those that are blinded by hate and jealousy refuse to see the truth and will look all over the internet for web sites written by loons to argue their point of view, devoid of facts and also, i may say, intelligence. one can remain only feeling sorry for people like this split person who spouts only ignorant comments to aliviate his jew hatred and especially israel hatred. sorry about spelling mistakes. english is not my mother's tongue. farsi is. hameed aboughaze, iranian los angeles
22. usa the axis of evil
daniel ,   u$a   (10.13.13)
the united states,the world truly global superpower,is currently bankrolling a trillion dollar military industrial complex that haswrapped its steel tentacles around the entire earth,the sacle of this military reach is unprecedented and dwarfs the total real estate of the former roman,greek and mongol empires combined,usa military sprawl into some perspective has the total land mass occupied by the u.s military bases domestically and internationally is somewhere around2202735 hectares,thus making the pentagon one of the landowners worldwide,usa power tends to corrupt and usa absolute power corrupts absolutely,usa lost its mind where war remains for business and such diabolical thinking is the motivation behind usa of superpower insanity
23. #20, #22 daniel Haha
solomon ,   bklyn   (10.13.13)
You post this gibberish as response to many articles, none of which have anything to do with what you write. You write as if the US is the big bad wolf while all other countries are the epitome of kindness, love and good etiquette. You avoid answering our specific comments. You stick to your puppet-like jibberish. You are in your own world of denial and make-believe. You do not post 'facts' to back up your fantasies. Keep posting. You dig a hole for yourself, deeper and deeper. You show yourself to be delusional. And prove it in your posts. Mazel tov. #7 daniel You avoid answering our specific comments. You stick to your puppet-like jibberish. You are in your own world of denial and make-believe. You do not post 'facts' to back up your fantasies. Keep posting. You dig a hole for yourself, deeper and deeper.
24. oh split?
Alexander ,   Tel Aviv, Israel   (10.13.13)
In talkback nr 14 I wrote by mistake IAF. IAF stands for Israel Air Force. What I actually meant was IAI - Israel Aerospace Industries. What I meant was that IAI produces, develops and manufactures the wings of F-35 IN ISRAEL. That's as INSIDE and geographically IN Israel - that is NOT OUTSIDE of Israel, or next to Israel or across the border, but actually IN Israel. IN as in determining the location of the production. By the way splittie - how old are you?
25. #23 shut up-shutdown
daniel ,   u$a   (10.13.13)
26. Rockwell actually makes the HMD in the US
Shlomo ,   USA   (10.13.13)
The Helmet Mounted Display System is sold by VSI, a joint venture of Rockwell Collins and Elbit, but 90% of the HMD is designed and produced by Rockwell Collins in the US while the rest of the system is designed and produced by Elbit in Israel.
27. 16
zionist forever   (10.13.13)
In the case of the F35 I cannot see the RAF using the helmet used in the Typhoon because in the F35 the helmet is more complex and plays a greater role than in G4 planes such as the Typhoon. Its possible that a British company will design a new helmet for the British jets only although all exports will be made in America. I was a mistake for the RAF to even go with the F35 as the combat proven Typhoon is one of the best multi role fighters around its still a new design by fighter jet standards unlike the American teen series of jets which were designed in early 80s so need replacing. Would have been a fraction of the price A carrier based version could have been developed which unlike the F35 would be made in England & exportable The next generation of RAF jets are probably going to be unmanned anyway so why invest over £1 billion in F35 development before purchase of jets on the countries last manned fighter rather than evolve the current one and invest the savings into domestically made unmanned jet for the future rather than have F35 as a stop gap.
28. #11
Eaglebeak ,   Left Coast, USA   (10.13.13)
You do not need to apologize for your spelling mistakes. You are one of the very best posters on Ynet. I should have thanked you long ago. You add a lot to this thread where Split only serves as a bad example. Thank you Hameed.
29. #23 you are an uncle sam puppet
30.  #23 THE FACTS
daniel ,   satanism from usa   (10.13.13)
usa racism has seriuosly violated the proposition that all men are created equal and the worst form of racism is the invasion of other countries,since its inception usa has invaded many countries such as:north american indian peoples,mexico,nicaragua,argentina,chile,haiti,hawaii,china,korea, panama,philippines,cuba,puerto rico,guam,samoa,honduras, dominican republic,germany,russia,yugoslavia,guatemala,turkey,el salvador,italy,morocco,france,algeria.tunisia,libya,egypt,india,burma , micronesia,papua new guinea,vanuatu,austria,hungary, japan,iran,uruguay,greece,viet nam,lebanon,iraq,laos,indonesia, cambodia,oman,virgin islands,liberia,saudi arabia,bolivia,granada,angola,kuwait,somalia,bosnia,zaire,congo,albania,sudan,afghanistan,yemen, macedonia,colombia,pakistan,syria,uganda,mali,niger and the human cost of these usa interventions has been enormous,an important component of the deaths related to the war or the domain is that of avoidable deaths due to the privations imposed wildly
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