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Livni: Equal rights for gay couples, women on rabbinate boards
Tova Tzimuki
Published: 15.10.13, 08:50
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1. Dear Mrs Livni, what about Civil Union?
(10.15.13)
Isn't it about time that Israel, which claims being a democracy, allows couples to get married without having to mention the word "jew" "christian" or "muslim"? Live and let live. It's 21st century
2. Couples are about children.
Miron ,   USA   (10.15.13)
Gay is not about children. There is nothing wrong with it, per se. But this politically correct tripe has to stop.
3. Corrupted values
Ted   (10.15.13)
For goodness' sake, Livni, DO NOT slide further to letting gay adopt and raise kids and distort the basic family life!
4. #1= NO ; It is a Jewish State
(10.15.13)
5. how can they have rights,
ed   (10.15.13)
when what they are doing is wrong?
6. I agree with what Livni proposes
Israeli 2   (10.15.13)
It is way overdue EXCEPT there is NO place for HOMOSEXUALS in Israel.
7. Finally, something good from Livni
A Simple Jew ,   Tel Aviv   (10.15.13)
These reforms are long overdue. Now, if she could just stop giving away Israel to the Arabs....
8. As predicted by the author of "Undermining the Torah Matrix"
Israeli 2   (10.15.13)
9. good, but not enough!
nadav ,   tlv   (10.15.13)
These bills are just loopholes for the corrupt system of religious coercion! Only a full separation of religion from state will do. Those who are secular, Reform, and Conservative Jews should not be subject to those who subscribe to archaic, medieval and supertsitious Orthodox Jewish laws. Either separate religion from state or grant Reform and Conservative Jews equal footing!
10. You Go Girl ...
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (10.15.13)
11. sorry but
DianaK ,   Germany   (10.15.13)
Sorry „guys“ but homosexuality is a threat to mainkind , it makes us corrupt and it makes us weaker. Trying to normalize a whatever – biological-problem under the pretext we are living in the 21st century is just irresponsible. Don´t try to take us for fools. Things never change, nothing new under the sun. Don´t persecute or prejudice people with problems. But don´t tell us to be “modern” , don´t tell us that “to be gay is cool”. before you tell me that, put your kids with a gay child care worker in the Kindergarten, finally we live in the 21st century. HA!
12. Cowboy got permission to marry his horse-State approved it!
Alan ,   SA   (10.15.13)
But on condiition that he obtained written permission from both her parents
13. There is no diff. betw. Bibi and Tsipi
Jumbix   (10.15.13)
That's why he always begs her to join him - there is only one elite, they are pro-homosodo and everything evil. Don't let the media and elites fool you.
14. Re: NO ; It is a Jewish State
Andrew Brehm ,   Zurich   (10.15.13)
Exactly. And there are both gay and straight Jews. A Jewish state must accomodate all Jews. You might confuse the Jewish people (whose state Israel is) with certain interpretations of Jewish religion. However, since Israel is a _Jewish_ state (and not a rabbinical state or priestly state) Israel has to accomodate all Jews (and not all or certain rabbis or priests). Your religious convictions or opinions don't matter. It's not YOUR state, it's all the Jews' state. As long as there is a single gay Jew, we have to accomodate him. Just like we have to accomodate black Jews, blond Jews, Jews with long noses, Jews with short noses, and even bold Jews.
15. Shouldn't all homophobic complaints be directed at the
tom ,   tel aviv   (10.15.13)
Imaginary Friend in the Skies, since it is by His decree, that about 10% of human race is inflicted with this anomaly and "anomaly" it is, since it is against common sense of Nature? Mother Nature wants sex to bear fruit in form of offspring, that why it sneakily attached physical pleasure to the act of procreation(so we don't choke the screaming kids!:-). We should be working hard, at developing cure for this anomaly already in the womb. In the meantime the afflicted should be made to feel welcome & at home in any society. Whether they should be granted ALL the "perks" of heterosexual union is debatable indeed. Calling homosexuality "evil" is a sign of particularly sick & underdeveloped brain, very fitting the religious crowd.
16. Livni ,like Don Quichotte,on the back
ORA ,   JERUSALEM   (10.15.13)
of a donkey is out ,to redress all Rabbis wrongs. As i already said for Lapid, before engaging a fight chose well your enemies.. Don't start with Rabbis.As my father said ,you don't have to listen to Rabbis but never start a fight with them.it is a lost cause. Nevertheless,happy are the people who found a GOOD Rabbi to guide their life.
17. I didn't know
Marian ,   Romania   (10.15.13)
that Tzipi and Lapid ar crypto-palestinians. These are brilliant solutions to eliminate the "jewish caracter" of the state and to reduce the natality of the jews (sorry, former jews) by giving support for same-sex rel. and by making males to be afraid of getting marryed and making children because they can easily lose wife and children and even put to pay for not rejoicing at them !!?? P.S.: In west eur. there are many cases of conversion to islam because of this legislation !
18. Israel is not 'our' state
David ,   Shiloh Israel   (10.15.13)
The Land of Israel was only given to Jews to settle upon 'with' G-d. The land belongs solely to G-d. Therefore, aside from that meaning that it is not our's to negotiate away, it also means that we have no blessing to live a life contrary to G-d's wishes in Israel. It doesn't matter if you beleive this or not, there's a higher truth. I agree that all Jews should be given opportunity to live a meaningful life, but those who would see the destruction of our future through not seeking natural children for our heritage, need help to correct themselves, not to further their sick aims.
19. She should go to the UK and stay
DT ,   TA Israel   (10.15.13)
there. She would fit in better with here views
20. We need a civil marriage ceremony in Israel
Sarah B ,   Tel Aviv/London   (10.15.13)
Where a couple can be recognised as being married by the state with all the benefits that entails. Lets take the Rabbinate out of the loop all together, I can assure you they will soon modernise as revenue streams begin to fall. Like all things opening up a closed shop to competition accelerates change
21. LIVNI WANTS A CIVIL WAR ! THIS GIRL MUST RESIGN
(10.15.13)
22. Gay marriage
Sherlock Holmes ,   London England   (10.15.13)
Lapid will fight for the right of gays to marry? In a Jewish framework marriage involves a male and a female. Lapid should fight for civil union or civil partnership that confers the same rights without calling it marriage. Here in England Prime Minister David Cameron forced through a bill permitting same gender marriage, and now admits it was a mistake. The Queen twice avoided mentioning it in her opening speech to Parliament and the law prohibits same gender marriage in the Church of England, of which the Queen is Supreme Governor. Lapid will only lose public support by calling it marriage.
23. how about civil union to all who choose it
Vered, Israel   (10.15.13)
Regardless of whether they are eligible to be married by the rabbibate?
24. Usual and expected responses from the Neanderthals
miki ,   tampa   (10.15.13)
Sure Israel is a Jewish State and people live here, real people, real Jews, real Palestinians, real straights and real gay all with equal rights well except for the Arabs-in this only Democracy in the Middle East they don't stand a chance. One last word for Marian from Romania, the Garda de fier, Romania's Iron Guard and Maresal Ion Antonescu. also tried to restore the Romanian character to your country-is that what you have in mind?
25. #4, Are you posting from Iran?
Dov ben David ,   Eilat, Israel   (10.15.13)
26. 16 correction:With"Rabbis wrongs"
ORA ,   JERUSALEM   (10.15.13)
i meant to say:what Livni considers as Rabbis wrongs. Rabbis are just prescribing Tora's laws.
27. These postings clearly shows
Dov ben David ,   Eilat, Israel   (10.15.13)
the differnce between Datiim and hilonim. We, the hilonim let the datiim live as they wish. We even pay for the comfort of many of them... The datiim want to run our life's. They want to tell us what we should do or not. This must come to an end...
28. Israel, a Jewish state.
Michael Pielet ,   israel   (10.15.13)
Some of her proposals are reasonable. Marriage for homosexuals and lesbians, never. Call it, what it is an abomination.
29. Livni: Johnny come lately
Larry ,   LA   (10.15.13)
In an effort to get votes for the almost defunct Labor party, a party that once was the grand party of the Israel, Livni has to appeal to the lumpy left, an area that both Meretz and Lapid have covered and captured. Livni is a up and coming has been on the political scene. Instead of giving us some good new ideas, she is busy putting the final nails in the coffin of Labor. Livni, get out and let some one better take over leadership of Labor before it disappears!
30. Spot the difference - hate monger #2
Another Reason ,   Hates-Ville TA   (10.15.13)
Q: Whats the difference between Yair Lapid and Zipi Livni? Lets play spot the difference: Zipi Livni Yipi Livin Yapi Livid Yari Lipid Yair Lapid A: No difference - a sex change but still the same irrational hate
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