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Hamas' plan for next war: Frequent attacks on Tel Aviv area
Elior Levy
Published: 29.10.13, 09:49
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1. Oh so THATS Haniyehs plan?
Sammy ,   Newcastle   (10.29.13)
Sitting on his 'High Horse' Haniyeh is beginning to look more like his Clone Mashaal every day So on the one hand he complains hes running out of Tunnel Money And on the other this absurd comedian is planning his next 'Offensive' against Israel with 'Blanket Rocket Attacks'? Has he gone off his head completely? And what if his 'Blanket Rocket Attacks' are met with Israeli 'Blanket Rocket Attacks' how much of Gaza will there be left? Mmm But I forgot...The Comedy Duo will have made sure they and their ill gotten gains are OK and safe...And Mashaal will suddenly surface somewhere else in the Middle East or Africa for him to enjoy his excesses What do they care?
2. Not for a billion dollar I would swap shoes with this killer
writing on the wall   (10.29.13)
for he is living on borrowed time like all of Israels enemies ! '' I will curse him who curses you Israel '' has said the creator of the universe.....
3. lest we forget
(10.29.13)
Zionists like Shamir, Ahrens, Eldad predicted this would happen. The messianic Left under such geniuses like Peres, Barak, Peretz, Livni, Olmert, Lapid and Yehimovitch accused the Zionists of terrorism, called them enemies of the peace, and proceeded to give Hamas the rockets and territory. It was the messianic Left (Shovrim Shtika, Meretz, Goldstein) who delegitimized Israel's self-defense actions.
4. How about we ....
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (10.29.13)
.... raze Gaza to the ground and scatter what may or may not be left of its terrorist denizens to the four winds? Then we won't have to worry about choosing between the lesser of two (or more) evils -- Salafi, Hamas, Islamic Jihad -- whatever Get rid of them all, and let their "Allah" sort them out.
5. #4 So you "want to wipe them off the map"
Robert ,   Australia   (10.29.13)
....You need to bear in mind they view you as evil as you view them.
6. Only one answer
Lioness ,   Israel   (10.29.13)
If rockets are fired at Israel ....we must carpet bomb Gaza.
7. #4 - so you believe in massive genocide?
spyguy ,   seattle   (10.29.13)
How do you think the world , including the USA, will react to that? Might the world crash the Israeli economy? Also there is the practical problem of how exactly do you kill several million people as efficiently as possible? And how many dead Israeli soldiers would be "acceptable" during your little genocidal madness?
8. To: No. 5
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (10.29.13)
You need reading comprehension classes. I want Gaza and its terrorist denizens razed to the ground and what's left scattered to the four winds. They are the ones who brought violence and terror to the State of Israel and the Jewish people. They have sown the wind -- and the time has come for them to reap the whirlwind. I realize that you are not the sharpest knife in the woodblock, but surely even a dullard can understand that actions have consequences, and those consequences are not necessarily pleasant. The ersatz "Palestinians" are not exempt from that basic rule, no matter what spin you and other anti-Semites and Israel haters put on the issue. The ersatz "Palestinians" chose their course of action. Foolish and misguided, to be sure, but their free will nonetheless. Why should they get a second, third, fourth, fifth, sixth, seventh or tenth bite at the apple? In case you haven't noticed, the ersatz "Palestinians" -- particularly the Gaza terrorist flotsam and jetsam -- have made no secret of their goal. They wish to bring about the destruction of the State of Israel and the extermination of the Jewish people. Simple-minded as you are, you do, I trust, realize that the State of Israel has an affirmative duty to protect and defend its citizens and secure its borders. The international community came to a common consensus during World War II that it was necessary to bring about the demise of Nazi Germany. To that end, the Allies carpet bombed Germany into oblivion, despite the fact that it resulted in the deaths of millions of German civilians. The same thing happened in Japan. I assure that the sovereign State of Israel is faced with a like problem. They want to destroy us. We will not let that happen. No matter what.
9. ONE HAMAS ATTEMPT AGAINST TEL AVIV AND GAZA IS DOOMED
stude ham   (10.29.13)
Israel will have no qualms in ferocious counter measures.
10. spyguy, seattle no 7
LION OF JUDAH ,   JEWS FIGHT LIKE LION   (10.29.13)
What is your suggestion Mr ? Just let your beloved Gazans and Muslims to bomb Israel to the ground, and Israel to sit idle. Answer is required.
11. To all who read the Fascists postings
Dov ben David ,   Eilat, Israel   (10.29.13)
It doesn't matter that Livni comes from a right-wing family supporting Sharon, with parents both prominent former Irgun members. The right wing Fascists portrait her as a communist. After all, this lady realized what is social justice as well as she understood that without justice for the Pals, Israel will not rest. Instead of being one people, we fight each other! This double war has let Israel down twice in history before.
12. To: No. 7
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (10.29.13)
You and the poster at No. 5 share a common problem -- illiteracy. Go back and read what I wrote. I said nothing about genocide. But a sovereign state -- that would be Israel -- has the absolute right and affirmative duty to protect itself against threats of destruction. Hamas, the Salafists, Islamic Jihad and others of that terrorist ilk have been quite open in stating their goals -- the destruction of the State of Israel and the extermination of the Jewish people. Now, you may think that this is just silly blather on the part of the terrorists. And you are fully entitled to your thoughts, however misguided. The sovereign State of Israel is entitled to its own thoughts, too. And you do not live in Sderot or Tel Aviv, do you? Since the State of Israel is in a far better position to gauge the depth of the threat posed to the Israeli people -- and Jews everywhere -- than are you, don't you think you should retire to your corner with your spyglass and do whatever it is you like to do with your spyglass. No wonder your vision is so clouded! But why should any sovereign state live under constant threat of its destruction without taking steps to preclude that destruction? What a pity that the terrorist groups in Gaza care so little for their people that they would actually challenge the State of Israel existentially. We all know who's going to win that one. And -- for pity's sake -- learn how to read!
13. It's time we thought in terms of victory...
frauss ,   Jerusalem   (10.29.13)
To do what it takes to crush them and make them incapable of launching missiles and war against us. To stop them once and for all. This is not genocide, this is victory in war. And not to let the world save them from defeat to fight again another day. They don't care how many times they lose because they always feel that the next conflict will bring them victory. Let's put a resounding end to that.
14. Frequent attacks on Tel Aviv area?
Samuel ,   Melbourne   (10.29.13)
According to who, Elior? You should change this article's title, it's misleading. The only reason that you mentioned Tel Aviv was because the rockets can theoretically reach the city. But is this Hamas' plan? I doubt they would be so foolish. If it really is their plan as the headline suggests, then you should quote them saying so.
15. Why does Ynet show Hannieh against Jerusalem background?
(10.29.13)
16. Israel has only itself to blame for
DT ,   TA Israel   (10.29.13)
not finishing the job -Cast Lead ? Why ? Because we are afraid of internationla consequences winge the Gov. Iran- you are home and dry and free pass to getting the bomb as well
17. to Samuel
David ,   Australia   (10.29.13)
Hamas always mentions Tel Aviv as a target and furthermore there's nothing misleading about it - bang for buck (excuse the pun) would be to fire at a more densely populated area like Tel Aviv .... Also you would get more reads from this article mentioning Tel Aviv as the future target and not the usual Southern towns . If you want to put Australia as your location atleast dont make us look stupid
18. #8 Sarah B
Sarah B ,   Tel Aviv/London   (10.29.13)
You are not a friend of Israel, you are an enemy of Israel. The reaction to your post calling for the genocide of the Gazans proves this. I took my Niece around Auschwitz last week to show her what happens when one group of people decide that another group of people's are not the same as them, and the moral authority of decent humanity doesn't apply to them. I have shown your posts to prove that the legacy of the thinking behind the Holocaust is alive and strong, and we must remain on our guard
19. Iran is attacking Israel
Brod ,   USA   (10.29.13)
Iran orders its tentacles-Hamas and Hezbollah to attack Israel with rocket bombs. The next stage is raining Israel with giant rockets. Israel should not wait to be showered with deadly rockets like a sitting duck. The world of the dark forces are in the same bandwagon as Iran. To survive, Israel should do a 1967 on its enemies. It does not matter if Hussien the Islamist faints in anger. Congress supports Israel in defeating the dark forces that pose an existential threat to Israel, America and the Free World.
20. To nr 5
Alexander ,   Tel Aviv, Israel   (10.29.13)
And you need to bear in mind that: 1) The land belongs to Israel and not to the Arabs. We Jews have lived in Israel for 4000 years as proven by several ancient civilizations. Arabs or "Palestinians" are as native to Israel, Judea, Samaria, Jerusalem, Golan and Gaza as the British are to Africa and India. 2) Israel doesn't seek to destroy anyone but the Arabs and Moslems seek to destroy us - that's why we must defend ourselves by driving them out of our land and destroy them. Had they lived across the border in Egypt, Jordan or Syria and left us alone, there wouldn't be any problem. So yes I agree with Sarah B: Destroy the Arabs of Gaza, wipe them out and drive them out of Gaza. Gaza is a part of our ancient Jewish homeland. Arabs have 22 countries. They hardly need more land.
21. To No. 18, Sarah (or whoever you are) form London
New Yorker ,   U.S.A.   (10.29.13)
Let us call things their proper name. Eliminating Gaza as a base from which rockets are fired at the sovereign state of Israel is no genocide. During and immediately following World War II, the concept of collective responsibility for the atrocious acts committed by their governments and military was applied to German and Japanese populations as a whole. Whoever complained or was otherwise unhappy with the state of affairs were dealt with in a ruthless way. They were the aggressor nations and they ended up being punished as such. Gaza is no exception. Their "innocent" population should and will suffer irreversible changes as the result of incessant murderous attacks emanating from their territory over the course of many decades. Whatever double standard the Europeans or others choose to apply when it comes to the Jews defending themselves should matter little. Should they raise their hypocritical voice they it would do good to immediately direct them to brush up on their own history and reminded of not so distant precedents.
22. # 12 The REAL Sarah B
BUILD BABY BUILD ,   United States   (10.29.13)
# 5 and # 7 are typical of Israel's critics, they both suffer from ignorance and apathy. They don't know and they don't care, as anti semites, they aren't capable. Give 'em hell Lady.
23. The real Sarah B Israel's New Title
BUILD BABY BUILD ,   United States   (10.29.13)
The REAL friend of Israel. Will the other non Sarah B imitator please leave or, if not please remain silent while adults speak? As Elvis would say, "Thank you" "Thank you very much."
24. Questions for nr 5 (Robert) and nr 7 (spyguy)
Alexander ,   Tel Aviv, Israel   (10.29.13)
1) Why do you interfer with this conflict? Do you want me to interfer with Australia and USA? 2) What has Israel and the Jews ever done to you personally? 3) Why do you provoke us Jews by writing nonsensical, racist and anti-Semitic talkbacks in a JEWISH/ISRAELI newspaper? And why are you surprised that Jews/Israelis don't like seeing your comments in an Israeli/Jewish newspaper? 4) What EXACTLY makes the "Palestinians" "innocent" "victims"? How do you define innocence and who exactly is a victim? 5) Why do you assume that Israelis are the bad guys and that the Arabs are the good guys? Based on what exactly? Morality? Political systems? Historical rights to the land? Democracy? Legal rights to the land? Israel and the Jews win all the arguments. 6) What EXACTLY gives the Arabs the "right" to live in MY (yes MY land - not "their" land), steal the land, steal and deny our 4000 year long Jewish history in Israel, and launch attacks on Jews/Israelis? It seems to me that you Robert and you spyguy, support genocide on Jews, massacres on Jews, theft of Jewish land, violation of our independence and sovereignty and rewriting and distortion of history. You turn a blind eye to Arab attacks on Israel and play dumb when we want to clean up Gaza. If Israel has to choose between placating racist anti-Semitic genocidal maniacs such as yourselves - and risk national extinction, or exercise national self defense - and risk boycotts, we'll choose the second alternative. Speaking of "boycotts", "the whole world" didn't boycott Israel in 1948, 1956, 1967, 1973, 1982, 1991, 2006, 2009 and 2012, so hold your breath. The "whole world" is not against Israel and the "world" doesn't speak with one voice on single matter.
25. #17 Oh Daniel...
Samuel ,   Melbourne   (10.29.13)
Your response is forfeit on two counts. Firstly, why can I not be from Melbourne, Florida? Secondly, I do not make Australia 'look stupid'. Your 'bang for buck' theory describes what you, Daniel, would do if you were Hamas. But that's not the question of concern. What matters is what Hamas have actually said. You say that Hamas 'always mentions Tel Aviv as a target', so where are these references then? You'd need to actually provide one (and preferably many) for your claim to have any legitimacy. Finally, the title of the headline (and the reason why I read it) suggests that Hamas sat down and systematically devised a plan which would see concentrated attacks on Tel Aviv. But there is no reference at all to such a discussion such as this in the article, and no hint that this is their plan at all. And that's why the headline is both false and misleading.
26. To #20 the fascist
Dov ben David ,   Eilat, Israel   (10.29.13)
Lets assume you are right about "We Jews have lived in Israel for 4000 years as proven by several ancient civilizations." "..as British are to Africa"... Do you think that all the white of Africa should be expelled? Shall we empty USA of all the whites. Do you think that we should have totally new countries in the world? You are a nut! I was born in Europe and came to Israel as a Jew. Its true we have a history here in Israel. Its also true that the Pals have it. Dont deny other people their right and justify yours! UN has declared Israel as a state. That is why its legitimate. You can dream of your holy land, like Hitler dreamed of a "Judenrein world"! It will not help you to exterminate Arabs of Gaza. You are nothing more than a pathetic fascist making Israel look bad in the eyes of the hole world! You should be ashamed of your postings. Unfortunately, your sort are represented here in the hundreds. Very bad for us Israelis and our future in peace!
27. #17 *Oh David
Samuel ,   Melbourne   (10.29.13)
Sorry for getting your name wrong by the way :D
28. #4 Distant fantasy
Expat ,   Adelaide   (10.29.13)
Raze Gaza to the ground? Do you seriously expect that from the cowardly Netanyahu? Personally I would be ecstatic if he could finally find the balls to merely cut off Gaza's water and electricity grid, and withhold all that tax money. How on earth can a sane country economically sustain an entity bent on its destruction, is one of this world's greatest mysteries.
29. To # 5 Excuse us...
Dov ben David ,   Eilat, Israel   (10.29.13)
" ....You need to bear in mind they view you as evil as you view them." The whole world start to hate us because our fascists Jews and neo cons. But we are not all like that. I represent a vast large group that thinks that the Jews are entitled to have their legitimate state Israel. We also understand the suffering and the need for the Palestinians to have their state Palestine. We just not want them on us! Therefore Israel has to give back the occupied territories and let moderate Palestinians form their country. They have to deal painfully with their fascists and we have to do the same with ours. # 20 is one of them.
30. Sarah (US), Alexander, and all who agree with them
spyguy ,   seattle   (10.29.13)
If you feel that killing millions is OK, GO FOR IT. BUT you should probably be aware that Israel is less than 0.01% of the humans on earth and compared to At least 20 other countries, pretty powerless. If Russia, China or Europe decide that Israel is a danger to humanity, it will get severely punished. Probably to the point where most Israelis will have to flee to other parts of the globe to be safe and live, while the few that remain fight a losing war amid massive rubble. Your belligerent hubris will cause the end of Israel. That arrogant chip on your shoulder is going to get knocked off along with your head. Arrogant hubris is a guaranteed way to lose every time.
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