Opinion
Afghanistan already here
Alex Fishman
Published: 30.10.13, 11:33
Comment Comment
Print comment Print comment
Back to article
23 Talkbacks for this article
1. Israel needs weapons that can ..
Beary White ,   Norway   (10.30.13)
..take out multiple terrorists at the same time, and help the Islamic-cult-followers to be martyrs in an instant moment. And everybody will be happy, even the Islamic terrorists when they meets their hoax...
2. lest we forget
(10.30.13)
Who brought "Afghanistan" to Gaza and Sinai? Peres, Rabin, Barak, Sharon, Olmert, Livni. Who brought "Afghanistan" to Lebanon? Peres, Barak, Yehimovitch, Olmert, Livni. Who wants to bring "Afghanistan" to Judea and Samaria? Peres, Livni, Lapid, Yehimovitch and apparently Netanyahu.
3. everyone is a threat to Israel
Ehud ,   Tampa   (10.30.13)
If a guy walks out in the street with a sign that says : ¨screw you, I am more important than you and I am above the law¨.. everybody will hate him and some may try to harm him as well. Be it the middle east, europe, australia or whatever. Even space aliens if they exist should probably be hating us by now.
4. When minds become incensed
Sagi   (10.30.13)
to a point beyond reason there is only one possible solution, the same one that brought Germany and Japan to their senses. Talks and discussions and attempts at appeasement and conciliation are futile, this has been proven time and time again, history does not lie and should be our guideline. Churchill and Reagan, Roosevelt et al, these were real men and real statesmen who understood the world, today's leaders are all first class wimps.
5. good! Israel is fresh and awake....
Calibi ,   Sydney Aust   (10.30.13)
Let them group and wait for them. I'm not saying with fun but if all Jews are in Israel united they will survive well and powerful. Alexander the great with few thousands destroyed millions of Persians. The "Davidian Israeli soldier of the Most High will clean them without any more mercy or restrain!!!!!!!! The war of the right to live and exist. (end)
6. To Sagi, #4
M. Hartley ,   Atlanta, US   (10.30.13)
I agree with the first sentence of your tb, except that I have almost come to the conclusion that large parts of humanity, by blindly accepting and never questioning whatever dogmas they're being fed, will, sooner or later, literally kill and forever lose the use of some part of the brain. How else can one explain the tenacity by supposedly intelligent and well-educated people to obstinately hang onto every type of scientifically disproven garbage? imaginable?
7. #3 Ehud you fool, only the strong survive
Zimbi ,   NJUSA   (10.30.13)
8. The Israeli Left will embace it all
DT ,   TA Israel   (10.30.13)
championed by Livni, Liel and co
9. Afghanistan is already here
Sam Henry ,   London   (10.30.13)
Godless secularism in cooperation with Israel and Jewish-contolled America are trying to destroy Islam. Hence, the reaction of Muslims is natural. We need a 100 million-strong Muslim army in order to bring about the reinstitution of an Islamic authority. The territorial state is unacceptable. It can't defend Muslims.
10. Beware islamofascism
Mark ,   London   (10.30.13)
It's on the march. Only Russia now defending Arab states against the march of islamofascists in the guise of jihadists, salafists and islamists.
11. Haven't experts warned for this FOR DECADES?
Gunnar ,   Gothenburg, Sweden   (10.30.13)
And by "experts" I mean truth-tellers, like academics, NGO:s, journalists etc - NOT politicians who just seek to protect national interests and seek to maximize the number of votes in upcoming elections (and thus lie with ease). By supporting authoritarian, secular regimes, the world will play into the hands of radical Islamists. We saw it Iran in 1979. We saw in Egypt during the Sadat assassination in 1981. We saw it in Lebanon during the 80:s, in Algeria during the 90:s and we see it now. We've all seen the warning signs. We keep repeating our mistakes. Don't come and say this development is a surprise. Don't!!!!
12. Gunnar, #11, let's be honest
Jake   (10.30.13)
We live in a mediocracy. The media is the tail that wags the dog, not the elected leaders. Journalists, NGO's, and "political science" academics tell the truth more rarely than politicians.
13. @12 Jake - Ehhh....no, they don't!
Gunnar ,   Gothenburg, Sweden   (10.30.13)
You may dislike media, science and civil society actors, but how you can't see that politicians are the least honest human beings in the world, is beyond my comprehension. Stop the conspiracy theories, please.
14. #11 Sweden is different
(10.31.13)
Israel and Sweden are different Unlike in Sweden, in Israel the academics, NGOs and journalists collaborated with the corrupt Leftists to fantasize about a "New Middle East". The sane people who predicted that this would happen were universally condemned as "Zionists", "enemies of the peace" and "terrorists".
15. Gunnar, you are completely wrong
Rachel ,   Sweden   (10.31.13)
NGO:s, journalists etc are really lying a lot and I can understand that they succeeded to wash your brain. In Sweden the media lies a lot, and doesn't give balanced report about events, in particular regarding the Middle East. There is a slaughter going on in Syria for more than 2 1/2 years. The Swedish media is only interested in reporting about Israel and a lot of lies. The most lying about Israel is the newspaper Aftonbladet. Swedish TV and radio are very close to the level of lying reporting Aftonbladet style. Now, historically, Aftonbladet was very pro nazi during the 30's and 40's. You, Gunnar, sit in Sweden, get fed with lies by media and NGOs, and think that you know the truth. Swedish church and diakonia are occupied with spreading lies about Israel instead of working hard to help protect the rights of Christians persecuted in the Middle East and Moslem countries.
16. Global Jihad is like a forest fire
Shachar ,   Eilat   (10.31.13)
It's been spreading across Arab and Moslem states and will naturally reach our borders at some stage. Israels policies or even existence are irrelevant in this equation, Jihad burns everybody in it's path. We just need to be prepared to fight the fire....something well within our capabilities.
17. # 16 Shachar
Raptor   (10.31.13)
Israel will be consumed from within by Haredim and overcome by Global Jihad from without. An internal implosion combined with an external explosion. It pains me to say it, but I see no alternative to the path that we are on, oblivion.
18. #6 M. Hartley
Sagi   (10.31.13)
I did answer you yesterday but as usual my post was ignored. V.S. Ramachandran from UCSD has the answer to your question as to why intelligent people spew nonsense. It is a subject which has intrigued me for years. The eminent neuroscientist has proven that the neurons activated by sexual matter and discussion are identical to those activated by religious matter and discussion. People lose control and reason over matters of the flesh, likewise over religion. It even seems that the red lights shine brighter in the brain when it comes to religion as opposed to sex.
19. # 18 Sagi
M. Hartley ,   Atlanta, US   (10.31.13)
Thanks for your reply. I have no connections to the U of Cal. San Diego(?), but based on what you posted, I now find myself wondering whether or not it could/will be scientifically proven that the very fact that religion over-stimulates the brain results in the atrophy or actual death of the cells involved. After all and biologically speaking, whereas the neurons fired up by thoughts of sex contribute to the growth and survival of the species, religions, for lack of a better description, hit a dead end. Since everything in nature either grows or dies, is it unreasonable to infer that those final rewards promised by religions will eventually seal their fates? The thought that what's being peddled at any given time will always have to be supplanted by more outrageous and ridiculous "faiths" is depressing.
20. Alex is unrepentant myopic man
Ali Hussian ,   Kut, Iraq   (10.31.13)
The truth is that Israel being the. Strongest force in the region is not plying a positive role . The region needs Israeli help , and Ot is an opportunity for Israelis to play long term moral ( makes sense strategically ) role .Syrian people need help to over through a criminal regime , the best to do it and maintain a strong central Syrian state is for Israel to help the moderate forces through intelligence and material secret support , occasional hit on Hozb Allah And government missiles depot under different pretext .It is not wise for Israel to thrill under the Syrian people duress and pretend it is risky and good politics , it is not . If you donot help the moderate Syrian forces then yes you would be helping a new Afghainstan next door and it wonot be happy picture for you or the Syrian people .
21. The world needs wars .
Zechariah   (10.31.13)
Freud said everyone needs an enemy so global jihad will strengthen the religious Zionists .No wonder Rabin got drunk all the time .This will be the beginning of nuclear exchanges and nuclear winters .
22. Right wing and left wing BS (#2 and #3)
Ehud ,   Israel, not Tampa   (11.01.13)
#2: To claim Israeli Left and Center politicians are responsible for Jihadists in Syria, or elsewhere in the greater Middle East, is beyond ridiculous. Maybe they are also responsible for Jihadists in Pakistan? #3: In your abject self-hatred you are deluding yourself with the ignorant argument that 'we created hatred against us'. Jihadists blew up Australians in Bali - as they themselves stated - because the West (eventually) helped stopping the genocide perpetrated by the Muslim Indonesian invaders and occupiers in (Christian) East Timor. So either you accept the right of Jihadists to mass murder and oppression - so they won't 'hate' you - or you fight them without postmodern defeatism. If you go for the first option, you need to bear in mind that they will still despise you, and if you indeed do so - they would even be right!
23. Jihadist In Sanai
Mohammed the Jihadis ,   Ghana   (11.05.13)
Since the War against International Terrorism is ongoing; why is Israel sitting back? Why not wipe off these Jihadist in Sanai? Why sit back for this threat to grow?
Back to article