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Peace talks blow up after teams swap accusations
Elior Levy
Published: 06.11.13, 10:28
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1. Oh, those crazy ersatz ....
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (11.06.13)
... "Palestinians!" Don't they understand that they are not negotiating from a position of strength, or even international convention and statute? They fomented, and lost, six wars. I wonder -- how much "negotiation" was Germany allowed to engage in following World War II? Those who wage wars of aggression and lose -- SIX times -- are NOT equal partners to a negotiation. The ersatz "Palestinians" have no right to make demands or insist upon anything. Perhaps Israel's greatest mistake is that we did not string up bunches of ersatz "Palestinians" -- after all, isn't that precisely what happened to hundreds of Nazi Germans following the War? You don't negotiate with a venomous snake. You chop off its head, and then chat with its tail. That's what Israel should have done with the ersatz "Palestinians." Seven decades of unmitigated and relentless terror attacks upon Israelis and Jews in the Diaspora have been more than enough. It's time to stop the madness. The ersatz "Palestinians" failed to take advantage of a golden opportunity in 1947. Sucks, doesn't it? If you're an ersatz "Palestinian," that is. Time to send the lot of them packing to Jordan, country of their citizenship. Judea and Samaria belong to the State of Israel. No one has a greater claim or right to Judea and Samaria than the Jewish people. No one, least of all that violent ersatz "Palestinian" terrorist rabble that squat there illegally.
2. Wery Predictable !.
Arn. ,   Sweden.   (11.06.13)
They wanted only the Realease of the terrorists. The Usefull Idiot Obama and Kerry at their service. Arn.Sweden.
3. We just do not get it
Daniel ,   TA - IL   (11.06.13)
The arabs want 2000% and our blood, the americans are willing to push us in giving them a 1000%, our blood and the train carriges in which we will be deported to our slaughter... and idiots like our negotiating team, just want personal over our backsand a pet on th head. And stupid us, the regular jewish folks of Israel, we just want to live... stupid us, how dare we (sarcasm button switched off again)... How predictable that they look for a reason to sabotage the pieces talks, even if they get all they want and more.
4. Take a break then BACK YOU GO
Sammy ,   Newcastle   (11.06.13)
Of course there will be slanging matches, heated exchanges....of course there will be many of these moments So once you've calmed down, gone for a walk, taken a deep breath then back you go And if you think that Israelis or Palestinians are earnestly following every word and nuance, the ups and downs as this unfolds - forget it We are all patient and calmly getting on with our lives and we expect the negotiators to do the same
5. Time to stop Chirades : Game's UP
norbus ,   Jerusalem   (11.06.13)
Obama, Kerry have no right to rewrite International Law. It will be tough but we will survive. USA people will put Obama down, as soo as he tries to overstep the mark. His ardent support for the Ikhwan and the unholy mess in the middle east is as bad as the ridiculous ObamaCare Palestinians do not want peace. Imposter in Chief damaging USA Obama can't make us drop security
6. Good thing we released those prisoners
Mark ,   Israel   (11.06.13)
So hard to understand how this could happen! I thought they were going to be so appreciative of our gesture. I was positive this was going to be a new dawn in the ME. I feel so bad for Tsipi. Not.
7. Palestinians claim Israel lied
jon ,   uk   (11.06.13)
who is usually known to tell lies Israel or Palestinians decide for yourself
8. PA. Making Demands ?
James McKinlay ,   Israel   (11.06.13)
We in Israel should start making some demands before continuing the talks, first the Palestinians should start paying there Electric bill that they owe ,and there water bill, and find out where all the money the UN have giving them over the years who put that in there pocket ? The poor Palestinian on the street never saw a cent that's for sure . So please do a little homework before posting to say what is wrong with Israel and its Government.
9. Bibi's Real Plan
Rafi ,   Merkaz, Israel   (11.06.13)
It does seem rather farcical of of Bibi to claim he's willing to negotiate for peace while continuing to build settlements. It all looks like just another dead end.
10. Kerry will whip the Arabs back into shape
Noodles ,   Coney Island   (11.06.13)
11. #1 Crazy? No, pragmatic
Raphael ,   Netanya   (11.06.13)
With a yearly individual income provided by UNRWA and other suckers of $2,200, i.e. for an 8 persons family, the tax free wages of an american junior executive, they would be crazy to drop the Naqba business. If Kerry had brains &balls, he would set a deadline after which all benefits (including the meagre assistance to Israel) issued by the western taxpayer would be cut.
12. OK that farce is probably over and Lieberman acquitted!
michael redbourn ,   Lisbon Portugal   (11.06.13)
Lieberman was unanimously acquitted and after 17 years, justice was finally done. He now becomes the 2nd most powerful man in the country and will have much to say about PA bickering and Iran. And he certainly won't kowtow to Kerry.
13. #3 - you are taking this nonsense at face value ..
michael redbourn ,   Lisbon Portugal   (11.06.13)
You take the so called "peace talks" at face value when nothing is really happening at them. Netanyahu set up Livni. Nothing could possibly come of the talks and both sides knew that and merely went through the motions. The US can't and won't force Israel to withdraw from anything and after today's announcement Lieberman is now the #2 in Israel. And Lieberman will say how it is in very quick fashion. This issue is diddly-squat compared to the Iran one!
14. Yes, to freedom and security.
michael Pielet ,   israel   (11.06.13)
No to the creation of an arab terrorist state in Judea and Samaria aligned with the great terrorist, satan, Islamic, Jihad state of iran. No to the murder and maiming of thousands of Jewish children, women and men. Yes to freedom. and security.
15. One has a "minor" question to ask of the leadership of the..
Hermon Ben-Israel ,   Qatzrin, Israel   (11.06.13)
...Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) with which Israel conducts the peace talks: 20 years ago you committed, in writing, to amend your charter. On the basis of this commitment you were permitted to enter Eretz Israel (Land of Israel), and set up shop, at first in Gaza and then in Ramallah. Your charter's main thrust has been the call for Israel's demise; for the "cleansing" of the ancestral homeland of the Jewish people of its Jews; and, for the use of all means at your disposal in order to achieve these goals. 20 years later, the charter is still in tact! Therefore, why should we, Jews, trust any agreement on which you'll sign? And, worse, why should be believe that your goal has changed from the drive to annihilate the national home of the Jewish people and "cleanse" our homeland of its Jews? When I receive a reliable and logical answer to these two simple questions will I, and most other Jews, will reassess our lack of trust in reaching any accommodation with you!!
16. 1
zionist forever   (11.06.13)
Sadly they are negotiating from a stronger position. Whilst Israel controls the land it has no friends, even the US who were traditionally relied on to take Israaels side under Obama / Kerry are on the side of the arabs. Everybody wants to love the arabs and go out their way to help them all anybody wants to do is boycott Israel and Israel is lousy at defending its corner and always has been. Bibi needs to start giving weekly press conferences in english so the world stops only taking notice of Israel when somebody is killed or when talks break down.
17. # 1 Of course you're right
BUILD BABY BUILD ,   United States   (11.06.13)
however, thank G-d the pals rejected any piece of Israel's land and ended the absurd 'talks' that only serve to legitimize a bastardized claim of any 'fictitious" pal land we all know there is none. Talk is cheap except when your land is being brokered by your 'supposed 'ally ' We see obama falling deeper into his own lair of layered lies... Cut obama out of Israel's future. He is not your friend. GET EVEN BUILD!!!
18. This land is ours. End the farce forever!
Chaim ,   Israel   (11.06.13)
There is only one legitimate topic of conversation between Israel and the genocidal "Palestinian" poseurs who seek to mass murder us and steal our sole tiny Homeland. Their rapid permanent departure from our land. This tiny land is ours. Let us end the farce forever!
19. 2 sides to every story
zionist forever   (11.06.13)
The arabs take every opportunity to make themselves look like innocent victims but Israel rarely has much to say about anything so the only people who really know what went wrong are the people in the room. I would have been a fly on the wall during those talks watch them exchanging insults
20. Talk is cheap peace is expensive, Buzz off kerry obama.
BUILD BABY BUILD ,   United States   (11.06.13)
and, Israel has peace, her land and maintains her absolute right of her sole administration and possession of Israel undeterred by any breach of any security forced upon her by alien non Israeli citizens even, so called 'allies'. ( gotta watch them more now than ever with a critical eye, USA spied on Israel, why? ) Israel's won the wars, won the land and the right to all of Israel and NO one has the right to interfere with her. Step aside alien invaders. BUSILY BUILDING HOME FOR MORE JEWS!!! buzz off obama horseflies....
21. # 1 Of course you're right
BUILD BABY BUILD ,   United States   (11.06.13)
however, thank G-d the pals rejected any piece of Israel's land and ended the absurd 'talks' that only serve to legitimize a bastardized claim of any 'fictitious" pal land we all know there is none. Talk is cheap except when your land is being brokered by your 'supposed 'ally ' We see obama falling deeper into his own lair of layered lies... Cut obama out of Israel's future. He is not your friend. GET EVEN BUILD!!!
22. # 2 Yes, true
BUILD BABY BUILD ,   United States   (11.06.13)
they got their old toothless terrorists back but, they didn't get any Israeli land. and WONT by G-d! BUILD AWAY!!!
23. # 18 Chaim yes just say "LEAVE ".
BUILD BABY BUILD ,   United States   (11.06.13)
24. #15 I also wondered what happened to the change
Ron ,   Philadelphia, PA USA   (11.06.13)
promised to the PLO Charter. Thank you for checking into it and sharing the lack of change with us. I guess they though that in time we would all forget about it. It only goes to show how unreliable these people are.
25. Now that this nonsense is finished, time to get on
A ,   Belgium   (11.06.13)
with more important issues, like annexation and repatriation of the arab squatters to their homeland in Jordan.
26. Hand shakes!!!!
(11.06.13)
Sorry folks there is nothing here called West Bank. Israel will not shy away from Judea and Samaria including Bethlehem, Jericho, Gaza, Hebron etc. I’m a happy one today so build and build airport in Jerusalem. Amen!!!
27. Just making noise and trying to sqeeze the lemon more
Zev ,   Israel   (11.06.13)
They still have to get more murderers released and they will keep coming to the talks until they do.
28. - and bring in the clowns...
nadav ,   tlv   (11.06.13)
frankly, the arabs lost every war single war since 1948, the Western Jordanians and Gazans, who call themselves "Palestinians," are the "beggars" here and can't choose: they should take whatever is given to them and go with it. The world is getting tired of seeing these failed, terrorist Arab states disintegrating and won't want another Arab state between so called "jordan" and Israel for much longer. Arabs, take what we're willing to give to you from OUR land and say THANK YOU that we are willing to share with you! It's MUCH more than you are willing to give the Kurds, Christians, Berbers and myriad others whom you are oppressing with your jihad and autocratic regimes!!
29. AND NOW...STOP THE TRAITOR KERRY
Chris Rettenmoser ,   Bayerisch Gmain Germ   (11.06.13)
IN HIS TRACKS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
30. What stops building is peace+Pals reject Jewish Israel
Sam ,   Canada   (11.06.13)
If Palestinians want to stop building then they will have to accept that peace means Jewish and Palestinian majority states. This they reject so the whole idea of peace talks is laughable. It's just something the US and EU insist on in return for their money. Palestinians thought they could stop building without peace and they are upset they can't. Cry me a river.
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