Which is why the P5+1 better submit it for Israel's approval. If they want to avoid a war, that is....

exactly, and there are those who are very eager to be deceived and manipulated.

The Persian issue is of a scale and difficulty beyond Israeli ability to grapple with or turn in their favor. They'll wait for the Yanks to lift them off that hook. They have no other credible option.

Have faith Cameron.

I Quote - Talks between global powers and Iran that broke up this weekend without a deal on Tehran's disputed nuclear drive were "definitely no failure", a senior Western diplomat familiar with the issue said Monday. There was "no breakthrough yet but definitely no failure," said the diplomat on condition of anonymity, speaking after the negotiations between Iran and P5+1 powers – Britain, France, the United States, Russia and China plus Germany. "The collective assessment of the group was that some more time would still be needed; Comment - Talks has been going on for more than a Decade, how much more Time is Needed ? Arn.Sweden.

The best leader in the world is Bibi. Single handedly he has made the world realise the danger from Iran. Proportion. Look at the Cuban missile crisis. Russia wanted missiles pointing to the US. Almost started WW3. Today. Israel has 20,000 missiles facing from Lebanon. All supplied from where. IRAN. Iranian nuclear power. Unmistakable purpose is warfare.

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"Western diplomat: More time needed" because in the end, the talks with Iran will fail. Just give them more time to build their bomb.

Cameron : Are they all as smart as you in America? Voting for a patsy like Obama? Twice? Rent boy at college to pay for a crack habit?

But Israel does not want war either and there will be no war. There will be a simple one strike anihilation of the reactors all at the same time. HUH? Who done it? No one knows.

In plain English, it is selling your booty to white men to pay for your crack habit. I also heard (and believe) those reports. #11 Israeli 2....I hear ya....

#3 Cameron. Bone up on recent Israeli history before making boneheaded comments. What will Israel accomplish? Exactly what Israel accomplished when we destroyed Iraqi and Syrian nukes. Are you also unaware that Iran never defeated Iraq?

Iran wants more time to build nukes. That is the obvious purpose of these totally evil talks. Destroy Iran's nukes NOW!

is the timing & way in which they can get themselves rid of Israel by using the Iranian proxy.

This is a dilemma beyond real Israeli reach & ability to neutralize. You and I both know that's why Israel has done little more than rant, posture, and beg the Americans day and night for an armed attack the last no. of years. Only the Yanks can leverage Israel off the hook it hangs on. Now we'll do this for you, by one means or another, but it will come at a mighty price that Israel will have to pay.

If Israel tries to hold the world hostage, I wonder whom will survive? Go ahead and strike, and i guess we will see.

When you discover you're riding a dead horse, the best strategy is to dismount. - Dakota tribal wisdom

What the 5+1 powers do not seem to realize: if Israel goes down, they go with it.

A professional diplomat is someone who gets paid lots of money to eat caviar, drink champagne and come up with a worthless piece of paper that can be marketed as a success. Politics is about achieving your national goals. Chamberlain was a great diplomat, but the Germans were better politicians. Now the Western diplomats are desperate to get a worthless piece of paper because they need to justify the tons of caviar they consumed. They can't admit that talks will fail because Iran's critical interest is to get nukes.