from dictator to antipat all in one go. Next stop is disintregation.

Now the settlement expansion can be blocked no more jobs for Arabs another infitada.The only way out is to build with Arab laborers nuclear shelters and other Survivalist structures and a Few Hospitals and industrial parks for the Islamists.

An ideologue, Yechimovitz served her political dogma putting it ahead of Israel. Labour should adopt socialist Zionism, rebuild the broken society and attempt repairs of Social Justice which is battered at present. All parties in Israel should always aspire to Social Justice, which is part of the ethics of Judaism

in our political scene. We have a Bibi, a Buzi and a Boogie. That makes The Three Stoogies, a couple more and we shall have The Marx Brothers running the country.

Why is there no one good enough for you, Oh Mr super Sagi? Is this an Israeli trait to rubbish their leaders? Would you rather have Obama? Morsi? Erdogan? Khamenei? run the Jewish State?? Bibi has done a great job, and you only belittle yourself judging him and others in a derogatory manner. I bet your mind is no great gift to collective national intellect

Herzog's maiden statement is not at all encouraging, appealing for the party deserters to come home and looking to oppose the Government of the day. He should be offering to work with all other parties who would rise to the challenge of restoring Social Justice to the Jewish State

Yachimovich might now get the message that those that denigrate Jews, challenges the just and undisputed Jewish rights to their homeland, and supports the genocidal goals of Islam, gets trashed.

my intellect or lack thereof is irrelevant. Let's take a look at the "wonderful job" That Bibi has done. Given the haredim rein to terrorize the normal people of this country. Created a new social class of down and outs, beggars and rummagers in the garbage bins. Created a second new social class of tycoons who after making their millions and getting on everybody's goat leave the country for Europe or America. Whether you like it or not, there is social tension and strife in this country which will undoubtedly lead to a revolution, Bibi's creation. My constant complaints are intended to be constructive criticism, the country and society that has evolved is not the one intended by our founding fathers, it is unfair, unjust and untenable. The end will come if change does not occur. I am not an ardent socialist, I respect transition and change in societies, but what has happened in Israel is way over the top.

probably the worst 'leader' labor ever had. I am surprised that there was anyone left in the party. to go from Israel's biggest and the major party to a gornisht took the skills of a total waste like Shelly Yachimovich good bye no one cries.

Praise for Bibi on the security scene; without a Jewish State that can defend itself, we will see a second Holocaust. There is screaming social injustice in Israel. A corrupt political system going back to Ben Gurion developed unchecked due to the constant problems ever rearing their heads. Herzog looks like he has just put his foot in it blown it with his speech and his outlook on peace talks shows he knows jack shit about Arabs and Islam. Herein lies the root cause of our broken society. Security, Social Justice should be above party politics. Social Justice will only come through elimination of corruption..

unlike his father who was a good man and experienced, herzog is a straight arrow, like merridor but naive about so called peace which is a sham. But he is better than the arrogant yechaimovitch who like lapid thought she knew everything. Now she may be a little more humble. Same t hing will happen to livni next election where she will be booted out with her olmert delusions talking rubbish about peace,s hmease, how US and EU will protect israel-what bull.

Lots of talk backers here and in Israeli politics loves to talk all the time about "social justice" without defining it and without understanding the real cause of Israel's economic problems. Israel's economic problems are from a horrible combination of the vestiges of old socialism combined with crony (not real) capitalism, which has more in common with the old corrupt socialism than it does with real free market capitalism. Moreover, the policies advocated by all the "social justice" advocates, even with good intentions, is actually just more of the same big government failed welfare policies that are causing joblessness and despair in Greece and all over the world and is NOT what Israel needs. Israel needs more, not less, true free market capitalism, including open competitive markets, to bring growth and prosperity and rising incomes to everyone. Whenever I hear the term "social justice" here I cringe because the policies they advocate bring the opposite of real social justice,

Mr SD & Raanana I guess you are a ventriloquist able to talk off orifices below your mouth Social Justice is to gather the resources due to the State that are not collected due to corruption and to make same available to level the playing field. Corruption first and foremost cause anomalies. Planning Gains wiped out due to bribes, Black economy, inefficiency waste , Super rich tax avoidance , and on ....

15 - Not sure what warranted your opening insult. I have no problem with the policies you mention, namely anti-corruption measures, etc. That's fine. But most of the so called "social justice" advocates want to bring back welfare socialism when what is needed is more competition, open markets, less excessive regulation and bureaucracy, lower taxes etc. And again, most of the problems you list are from the old socialism combined with oligarchism.

Funny, but he spent years heading the welfare ministry and managed to do absolutely nothing to improve anything on the socio-economic front. In any case, the Labor Party's first got to show it can hold itself together, let alone the country.

Its not a matter of can he do the job any better than the communist party voter Shelly but what kind of image can he create. Look at Obama he has been a lousy president but first term he was the YES WE CAN candidate and he won because he told people what they wanted to hear. The US wants to lift sanctions on Iran not because of actions but because Rohani saws what they want to hear. Nobody trusted Shelly but Herzog has kept a low profile working from behind the scenes. If he can tell people what the want to hear and stay out the coalition to avoid having to stain his image before the next election he has a chance at winning. I think alot of Lapid voters would return to Labor under a new man that they trust and the Livni party supporters will ditch her if they feel confidence in Labor so if he handles himself right Labor have the potential to win the next election.

Social justice is not the same as Socialism. Socialism is NOT a Jewish value. David Ben Gurion's ultimate objective was not to build a "Socialist State" or promote the interests of International Socialism (unlike Mapam). He merely used socialism as a tool to promote the aims of Zionism and the establishment of a Jewish State. Socialism was the rising star in the world at the time, and the main power behind it was the Soviet Union. Labor Party's leadership of the Yishuv in pre-state Israel, and during the first 30 years of Israel's independence is based on the fact that it stuck to the Jewish national and patriotic aims of Zionism, promoting Aliyah, winning wars, and consolidating territory. Once Labor faltered in its patriotism and retreated from the national agenda, all that remained was bankrup, corrupt, and degraded socialism. And that is what is behind Labor's fall from grace.

any redeeming values. Call it what you want, it will remain a destructive force in any society. Time for the red "schmatte" to disappear from our landscape.Now at least, the Party will have a parve leader instead of insufferable one.