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Indefinite detention needs to stop
Mollie Gerver
Published: 23.01.14, 10:25
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1. All true...
Jerusalem Joe ,   Jerusalem   (01.23.14)
All true, but what has their situation got to do with us? There's hundreds of millions of people in the world suffering appaling living conditions and human rights abuses, but we have no obligation to have them come live in Israel or to concede to them when they enter Israel illegally.
2. the author is a member of an NGO not unbiased views
zionist forever   (01.23.14)
This article is written by the NGO Advocates for Asylum Seekers so the author is not exactly writing from a perspective of how Israelis feel the majority of whom want them gone. I notice non of these countries that are dictating to Israel that it must take them in are not offering to be generous and take any of them. Its easy to dictate to others but its not so easy to show the same compassion when your the one having to dish it out.
3. THEY ARE NOT FLYING GENOCIDE ! THEY ARE ILLEGALS !
(01.23.14)
4. helping ILLEGALS is a subversive act !
(01.23.14)
5. What the SHIN BET is doing agaisnt this kind of activist ?!!
Dave   (01.23.14)
6. Give them the option to...
Jacob E ,   Holon Israel   (01.23.14)
First, all of them are fingerprinted, their DNA is put on file and they are given temporary ID cards. Stay in Israel with government work developing the Negev and building new cities there. They will get a government salary and benefits and they will be allowed to purchase a home in a community they help build at a discount. Drug tests are given 1-2 times a year. Or... they can go where they want, with the condition that they get employed with an actual paycheck that pays taxes within 4 months and they maintain a job for the next 10 years with a maximum of one month unemployed per year. Drug tests are given 1-2 times a year. Sit in detention up to one year to make up their minds. Failure to be apart of one of these programs will end in deportation. I think this is very generous. But also the busses and planes out of the country will be ready to go. Or... if the Palestinians get a peace deal, we can ask them to help absorb them, after all, they think they are much better people than we are. Lets see them prove it. I'm sure they wouldn't mind the labor force either.
7. Deport, deport, deport. .......
Avraham ,   Netivot   (01.23.14)
They are all illegal & are nothing but trouble, deport each & everyone of them.
8. Deport they at once. Israel is a very poor country
S. Tel Aviv   (01.23.14)
We cannot go outside after dark. Deport them at once.
9. 6
zionist forever   (01.23.14)
They will have children whilst in Israel and as the kids were born in israel will be entitled to citizenship and eventually the parents will get it to. Let them stay temporally and they will never leave because the political will to get them out will be gone. We already have a problem with filipinos who come on short term wok visas but when the visa expires they just stay unnoticed because they prefer Israel to their home country. Long term what we need to get rid of foreign workers get those unemployed Israelis to do the low pay jobs. A yeshiva student can get a part time job as a waiter, Secular Israelis are capable of being a carers for the elderly or on a construction site. All thats needed is change in government attitude & pressure people to get jobs rather than import foreigners.
10. Makes one think...
A Jersalemite ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (01.23.14)
about all of those Jews that decided to remain in Germany despite all of the warning signals throughout the 1930's...
11. Refugees
Ilya ,   Texas   (01.23.14)
Since when has Israel become a haven for Non jewish refugees???? If these people were jews, then by all means, come to Israel, just like the Ethiopians, but what have these muslims have to do with Israel??? other than they will go anywhere where they can make money and live their primitive lives.
12. If it were just a trickle
Linichka ,   Gdynia, Poland   (01.23.14)
of desperate refugees fleeing probable mayhem and war, none would have a problem with them. Instead, the vast majority are economic migrants, their numbers such that their brethren back home believe Israel a soft touch, so they are encouraged to join them. No wonder that they want to leave a largely failed continent. No wonder, too, that Israel's welcome matt isn't out. Let them go to Egypt, Tunis, Morocco....other countries with similar language and culture. Israel has to take care of Israel.
13. The illegals must go
Ron ,   oc us   (01.23.14)
The author of this artical is in London, a long way away from South Tel Aviv. The illegals need to go either to their country of origin or an African/Moslem country of their own choosing. Not the soon to be former Jewish state of Israel.
14. Africans must be deported
I. Barr ,   Dearborn, USA   (01.23.14)
African infiltrators came to Israel to have a better living, not because of genocide threats. Saudi deported 100.000 Ethiopians and plans to deport another 50.000. Read Aljazeera. South Africans simply kills infiltrators. They are not as nice as Israel is. Israel must deport African infiltrators as Italy is doing too.
15. Good article, shameful comments
Stanley Heller ,   Connecticut, USA   (01.23.14)
A very fine piece. The comments are appalling. Are any of the talkback makers Jews? Do you know about how we were treated during the '30's and '40's? Stop whining about Israel not being able to solve all of Africa's problems. It can do something. The country is very rich and gets billions from the U.S. and Europe every year. The fact that the Israeli 1% lives like kings while most Israelis have little is not the fault of the African refugees.
16. Refugees in need of aid
Elisabet ,   Tel Aviv, Israel   (01.23.14)
I don't understand how so many of you can say that we should send them back to South Sudan! There they are faced with so many dangers, no housing, no work opportunities, no income. It's true, Israel cannot afford absorbing so many refugees, but at least we should help them get somewhere else in the world where aid will be provided. Don't forget, before Israel became an established state, the British sent many Jewish refugees who were survivors of the Holocaust back to Europe. We should not treat other people the same way just because they don't have the same religion as we do!!
17. Tribal Israel but no one is better
Zechariah   (01.23.14)
Israel is majority tribal with few utopian international socialists who are Tough Warriors for such an idealised species is non existant .But I admire the author tho I'd like to know what it's like in south Telaviv.Those residents ought be protected or given money like the Settlement People .
18. New law allows one year detainment
Alon   (01.23.14)
Figures that someone who is willing to lie and claim that the infiltrators are refugees despite their traveling through other countries on their way to coming to israel for work would also call one year "indefinite "
19. "Community Standards" Israel must treat refugees as refugees
Steve Benassi ,   Silver Bay, MN USA   (01.23.14)
20. OK so they don't have good jobs in Africa
Mordechai   (01.24.14)
Her article makes no claim that any of the people are actually being persecuted just that they don't have good jobs in Africa. Can Israel take in every poor African and remain a Jewish state, of course not. Israel couldn't even take in every real persecuted African and remain a Jewish state. Israel does not have to cease to exist because Africa is a mess. If its so important to help these people then the EU should pay to resettle them in the EU rather than pay Mollie to demand to resettle them here
21. # 11
Stan ,   Israel   (01.25.14)
Good question Ilya ! I suppose it applies also to the 110 thousand illegals from Eastern Europe who came in as tourists and continue to stay and work here. (Most of them are your ex countrymen from the former USSR) PS Miri Regev does not notice them because they are not black.
22. To # 20 Need I remind you
Stan ,   Israel   (01.25.14)
You sound like those who told German Jews 75 years ago why they cannot allow them into their countries. We are talking about 53,000 Blacks. First get rid of the 110,000 illegals from Eastern Europe, who are not refugees, and then if you still find these Africans to be a "danger to the Jewish state" deport them as well. PS See my comment to # 11
23. # 10 There's a thought
Big bad Jew ,   United States   (01.26.14)
send the illegal Africans to Germany...
24. # 15 Really?
Big bad Jew ,   United States   (01.26.14)
PA get loads of MY tax dollars despite their being officially and accurate labeled "Terrorists". obama just gifted these fictitious pal lunatic maniacs $1.7 bill and has forgotten they drafted their own teens as 'suicide bombers. Africans are welcome to go to Gaza, Egypt, any Muslim or Christian place of their choice but NOT Jewish israel. If the other Muslims can't invade and infiltrate Israel, neither can these illegal aliens. Or, do you have extra some space in your home in Connecticut? Gazan's live better than most Israeli Jews, the pals get paid only to be active terrorists, and will never have an inch of Israel. So, up yours muslim.
25. # 22 Stan
Big bad Jew ,   United States   (01.26.14)
wouldn't it be better if you left Israel and made room for the illegal aliens? Oh, and please clean up after yourself.. I hear gobs of "Polish Jews' Polish Jews, French Jews, Russian Jews are headed your way. So.. ON WE GO BUILDING!!! while the illegals go bye bye !!!
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